• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:01
CEST 19:01
KST 02:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)58Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!11Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion NaDa’s Body Followup Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) Etiquete rules in Asl?
Tourneys
[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13664 users

[IEM] EU Finals Day 4 - Page 33

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 102 Next
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
January 23 2011 16:58 GMT
#641
On January 24 2011 01:55 Sfydjklm wrote:
dsn is playing SC2 as a warm up for the CS finals:D

LMAO i didn't notice that until your post...
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 23 2011 17:00 GMT
#642
On January 24 2011 01:51 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:24 hiyo_bye wrote:
On January 24 2011 01:20 norlock wrote:
On January 24 2011 01:18 hiyo_bye wrote:
I know no one is perfect, but it seemed like Tarson and Sjow both made quite a few mistakes last game with banshees and drops and scvs. Jinro's play, for example, seems a lot more refined.


Why are you comparing eu t's with jinro? I think mc plays a lot better than white ra dunno why.


Well, Jinro is from EU, and it's not like everyone who's been to Korea is better than the EU players.

A lot of people say stuff about how EU players would do quite well in the GSL and whatnot. You might not be one of them, but I'm just commenting on how I think there's still quite a skill gap. Still, that was just an example, and I feel like these little mistakes like losing banshees and medivacs don't happen in most pro games I watch.

Sjow just went 11-0 tvt vs europe's best, I really would like to see him play vs Jinro actually.


TLO won vs sjow 2 weeks ago, 3-2 and 3-0 ~~
yo
mappiechampion
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:02:40
January 23 2011 17:01 GMT
#643
I think SjoW just proved that he is best european terran by far, AND that not scouting with a SCV is the way to go

It seems that White-Ra has improved alot in skill lately, he is just on top of stuff right now! Gogo in the finals!

Edit: Forgot about TLO, but I think they are quite close in skill to be honest, TLO just slighty better.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 23 2011 17:01 GMT
#644
Stream 2 is online (3rd place match). Game should be starting in 15 minutes.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
January 23 2011 17:02 GMT
#645
On January 24 2011 02:00 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:51 Maenander wrote:
On January 24 2011 01:24 hiyo_bye wrote:
On January 24 2011 01:20 norlock wrote:
On January 24 2011 01:18 hiyo_bye wrote:
I know no one is perfect, but it seemed like Tarson and Sjow both made quite a few mistakes last game with banshees and drops and scvs. Jinro's play, for example, seems a lot more refined.


Why are you comparing eu t's with jinro? I think mc plays a lot better than white ra dunno why.


Well, Jinro is from EU, and it's not like everyone who's been to Korea is better than the EU players.

A lot of people say stuff about how EU players would do quite well in the GSL and whatnot. You might not be one of them, but I'm just commenting on how I think there's still quite a skill gap. Still, that was just an example, and I feel like these little mistakes like losing banshees and medivacs don't happen in most pro games I watch.

Sjow just went 11-0 tvt vs europe's best, I really would like to see him play vs Jinro actually.


TLO won vs sjow 2 weeks ago, 3-2 and 3-0 ~~

He's talking about IEM European Finals <_<
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
January 23 2011 17:03 GMT
#646
Time to watch people make an ass of.....I mean dance on stage.
Eggcake
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:05:17
January 23 2011 17:04 GMT
#647
He's talking about him being the best in europe and thinking he can beat jinro and he just said that TLO (who is definteliy not as good as jinro, no offense <3 (no homo))) won twice against him...sooo...
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
January 23 2011 17:05 GMT
#648
Yep, just as bad as expected.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
January 23 2011 17:05 GMT
#649
On January 24 2011 02:04 Eggcake wrote:
He's talking about him being the best in europe and thinking he can beat jinro and he just said that TLO (who is definteliy not as good as jinro) won twice against him...sooo...


So what .. 3-2 doesn't really say a lot to begin with. 3-0 is a statement, but even Sjow can have a day off
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
mike1
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany155 Posts
January 23 2011 17:06 GMT
#650
awesome dance skillz
dmans
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden358 Posts
January 23 2011 17:07 GMT
#651
FBH Cermony contest???
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:13:40
January 23 2011 17:12 GMT
#652
i am sooo pumped for fnatic vs mtw, altough i stopped playing cs like 4 years ago.

iem european championship feels like the european cup of soccer, a must watch.

i think esl choosed the three best games for this. all (sc, cs and ql) are really a nice esport to watch and this makes esport much popular

last but not least: gogo fnatic! :D
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
dignitasNewmaN
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden137 Posts
January 23 2011 17:14 GMT
#653
NOt sure if this has been posted already but we made an interview with show before the Tarson match, more videos coming up as well. One is of Sjow analyzing a match and the second will be a pre-finals interview with Sjow.

But first..

Team Dignitas Founder & Communications Director - @dignitasNewmaN on twitter.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:22:28
January 23 2011 17:18 GMT
#654
On January 24 2011 01:54 cArn- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:26 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On January 24 2011 01:23 cArn- wrote:
On January 24 2011 01:15 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Some people think marauders are bad in TvT? Who are these people?


koreans and for a reason, marauders get destroyed by marines and I'm not even talking when a PDD comes into play. If one terran goes marauders he suddenly isn't that mobile anymore because of marines, he cant' drop nor bust tank lines, marines are soo much better, the only situation where marauders work is when you're ahead anyway and want to end the game breaking a terran stalling with siege tank defense


I wasn't advocating pure marauder play. But if your opponent has any decent number of tanks, not getting marauders is just silly. They soak so much damage and take out the tanks so fast while protecting your own. It has been shown since the beta that marauder's mobility and strength against tanks will always mean they have a place in TvT if your opponent makes enough tanks.


but in beta people weren't playing heavy marine to support tanks, it was heavy vikings, and that changes everything.

Also you can upgrade faster when not building marauders, have more tanks / medivacs, and that's way more effective than to try to brute force with marauders ; a marauder dies to 3 tank shots, a marine 2 tank shots, if you have proper control (spreading flanking etc) it's better in almost every situtation to have 2 marines instead of 1 marauder.


One of the major differences which I'm talking about is how you engage. The Marine heavy + tank vs eachother obviously favor the person who is paying the most attention and has better unit control + game sense. Usually at that point in the game 1 player has the advantage and they're allowed to be the more mobile force, harassing the terran who is usually trying to move forward to secure an expansion. However, should both players be defending their tanks well and are careful with their sieging, that's where marauders can be used with high efficiency. This becomes also important should you lose your tanks in a fight, leaving your opponent with a much larger number so that rebuilding your own would take too long. Last night GSL game being a decent example.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
dmans
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:28:43
January 23 2011 17:20 GMT
#655
le lovely razer ladies

and for you swedish speaking ppl i found a sjow interview after the tarson match,


+ Show Spoiler +
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
January 23 2011 17:28 GMT
#656
3rd place game on stream 2
The naniwa - Unit of protoss skill, defined as the number of gates you build off of one base
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
January 23 2011 17:28 GMT
#657
On January 24 2011 02:14 dignitasNewmaN wrote:
NOt sure if this has been posted already but we made an interview with show before the Tarson match, more videos coming up as well. One is of Sjow analyzing a match and the second will be a pre-finals interview with Sjow.

But first..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl7xgV9OpZQ


Nice interview. Glad to her someone talking about analyzing his opponent. Sjow seems like a smart guy. "I didn't prepare at all" statements rly pisses me off. o.O
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
January 23 2011 17:28 GMT
#658
Tarson v Demuslim on Stream 2 right now

http://tv.esl.eu/de/55-flv-fs2/


Who is with Tilly?
Socke Fighting!!!!
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
January 23 2011 17:30 GMT
#659
On January 24 2011 02:28 resilve wrote:
Tarson v Demuslim on Stream 2 right now

http://tv.esl.eu/de/55-flv-fs2/


Who is with Tilly?


It's Sonic. He was the german esl caster for bw games (about c iccup if I remember correctly).
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
January 23 2011 17:42 GMT
#660
This is kind of off topic, but if I post in the guest pass thread, no one ever responds, so I'm going to post here -- does anyone have an EU guest pass that I could have? I would willingly trade an NA guest pass for it, in fact, I've tried, but the tler I was exchanging the keys with sent me an invalid pass . Pm me if you want to!

On another note, whitera fighting!
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 102 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
16:00
Grand Finals
Bonyth vs Ret
Airneanach137
LiquipediaDiscussion
Showmatch
15:00
Shopify Rebellion Sunday #8
Harstem541
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 607
Harstem 541
CosmosSc2 83
SHIN 69
BRAT_OK 60
Vindicta 19
MindelVK 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1141
EffOrt 896
Mini 850
Soulkey 546
ggaemo 319
firebathero 175
Dewaltoss 134
Pusan 71
Sharp 63
Zeus 60
[ Show more ]
scan(afreeca) 49
910 38
Hm[arnc] 37
Sexy 36
PianO 32
ToSsGirL 31
sorry 28
Aegong 24
Rock 23
zelot 15
Noble 12
Dota 2
Gorgc10155
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox917
C9.Mang0165
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor444
Liquid`Hasu275
Other Games
Grubby2511
singsing1885
Liquid`RaSZi1117
Beastyqt632
XaKoH 122
KnowMe113
Livibee96
QueenE68
SteadfastSC63
amsayoshi50
UpATreeSC34
Rex25
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick980
BasetradeTV25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade860
Other Games
• Shiphtur222
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
17h 59m
Monday Night Weeklies
22h 59m
OSC
1d 6h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
Online Event
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.