• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:20
CET 03:20
KST 11:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League75Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! Bot on ladder BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7970 users

[IEM] EU Finals Day 4 - Page 35

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 102 Next
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 18:21:20
January 23 2011 18:17 GMT
#681
On January 24 2011 03:05 chobopeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 03:01 Eury wrote:
The CS community has promoted the heck out of this event while the SC community has largely ignored it. Just compare TL's coverage of a MLG event, the coverage of this tournament is really disappointing.

Not that the IEM guys are much better when they can't even bother to add their streams to the event on TL.


yeah. well, to be fair, everyone's focus has been on jinro/idra, right? this is a collection of the best cs teams in the world afaik, not so with sc2.

Let's be honest though, these are arguably the best players in Europe and regardless should not be ignored. Picking favorites when it comes to providing coverage for your community is just a terrible thing to do. EDIT: and you (not referring to you you) are pretty much saying that you do not care about anyone other than those playing in Korea.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 23 2011 18:18 GMT
#682
what was first map between Demu and Tarson, please? ^^
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 23 2011 18:20 GMT
#683
On January 24 2011 03:17 GenoZStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 03:05 chobopeon wrote:
On January 24 2011 03:01 Eury wrote:
The CS community has promoted the heck out of this event while the SC community has largely ignored it. Just compare TL's coverage of a MLG event, the coverage of this tournament is really disappointing.

Not that the IEM guys are much better when they can't even bother to add their streams to the event on TL.


yeah. well, to be fair, everyone's focus has been on jinro/idra, right? this is a collection of the best cs teams in the world afaik, not so with sc2.

Let's be honest though, these are the best players in Europe and regardless should not be ignored.


10 T and 2 P in a 4 day event with 2 days having almost no matches deflates a lot of hype that could be there. Add to that the GSL semifinals which will obviously have more hype and this is what you get.

On January 24 2011 03:18 n0ise wrote:
what was first map between Demu and Tarson, please? ^^


Delta quadrant.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
January 23 2011 18:22 GMT
#684
On January 24 2011 03:01 Eury wrote:
The CS community has promoted the heck out of this event while the SC community has largely ignored it. Just compare TL's coverage of a MLG event, the coverage of this tournament is really disappointing.

Not that the IEM guys are much better when they can't even bother to add their streams to the event on TL.



It feels really weird.

The quality of players for sc2 is pretty much on par with an MLG event (less numbers, but in terms of top-tier pros it is comparable), and the offline setup is clearly costly and well produced - and yet there has been hardly any hype or secondary and tertiary media (fans at the event, their photos interviews and such) .

I didnt even know this IEM was going on until it was mentioned at the homestory cup....thats completely unacceptable for a tournament of this magnitude I feel >.<
Socke Fighting!!!!
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
January 23 2011 18:24 GMT
#685
Maybe it's just that much harder to commentate a team game, but I feel like I'd enjoy CS so much more with SC2 casters.
olbas
Profile Joined November 2010
United States53 Posts
January 23 2011 18:25 GMT
#686
I think the race distribution killed a lot of interest for the event.
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
January 23 2011 18:25 GMT
#687
On January 24 2011 03:24 Redmark wrote:
Maybe it's just that much harder to commentate a team game, but I feel like I'd enjoy CS so much more with SC2 casters.


Joe is about as top tier as it gets in esports commentary.

It is too fast paced to be witty or tell amusing stories and jokes - you have to be precise and fast and analytical as priority in a much more compressed period of time
Socke Fighting!!!!
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 23 2011 18:26 GMT
#688
not many ppl want to watch 100 mio tvts ..
yo
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 18:28:03
January 23 2011 18:27 GMT
#689
On January 24 2011 03:20 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 03:17 GenoZStriker wrote:
On January 24 2011 03:05 chobopeon wrote:
On January 24 2011 03:01 Eury wrote:
The CS community has promoted the heck out of this event while the SC community has largely ignored it. Just compare TL's coverage of a MLG event, the coverage of this tournament is really disappointing.

Not that the IEM guys are much better when they can't even bother to add their streams to the event on TL.


yeah. well, to be fair, everyone's focus has been on jinro/idra, right? this is a collection of the best cs teams in the world afaik, not so with sc2.

Let's be honest though, these are the best players in Europe and regardless should not be ignored.


10 T and 2 P in a 4 day event with 2 days having almost no matches deflates a lot of hype that could be there. Add to that the GSL semifinals which will obviously have more hype and this is what you get.

Not sure what hype has to do with online coverage. In TeamLiquid's case I understand because they have no players competing in IEM but they still do it. Other news sites have no excuse for not covering it because "everyone's focus has been on jinro/idra, right?"
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
January 23 2011 18:28 GMT
#690
On January 24 2011 03:22 resilve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 03:01 Eury wrote:
The CS community has promoted the heck out of this event while the SC community has largely ignored it. Just compare TL's coverage of a MLG event, the coverage of this tournament is really disappointing.

Not that the IEM guys are much better when they can't even bother to add their streams to the event on TL.



It feels really weird.

The quality of players for sc2 is pretty much on par with an MLG event (less numbers, but in terms of top-tier pros it is comparable), and the offline setup is clearly costly and well produced - and yet there has been hardly any hype or secondary and tertiary media (fans at the event, their photos interviews and such) .

I didnt even know this IEM was going on until it was mentioned at the homestory cup....thats completely unacceptable for a tournament of this magnitude I feel >.<

Not too many TLers are Ukrainian I guess...
wwww
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
January 23 2011 18:31 GMT
#691
Any update on when the finals will be held?

The esl page isn't working for me and own3d isn't either.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 23 2011 18:32 GMT
#692
On January 24 2011 03:22 resilve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 03:01 Eury wrote:
The CS community has promoted the heck out of this event while the SC community has largely ignored it. Just compare TL's coverage of a MLG event, the coverage of this tournament is really disappointing.

Not that the IEM guys are much better when they can't even bother to add their streams to the event on TL.



It feels really weird.

The quality of players for sc2 is pretty much on par with an MLG event (less numbers, but in terms of top-tier pros it is comparable), and the offline setup is clearly costly and well produced - and yet there has been hardly any hype or secondary and tertiary media (fans at the event, their photos interviews and such) .

I didnt even know this IEM was going on until it was mentioned at the homestory cup....thats completely unacceptable for a tournament of this magnitude I feel >.<

I dont get what you are talking about. Secondary and teriary media? You expect to be informed by TV comercial or what? I dont get it.
We were informed about this happening just the same way as about the other tourneys, which was via tl and other sc web sites. Dont see how there was any difference.
Off-season = best season
Eggcake
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 18:36:21
January 23 2011 18:34 GMT
#693
It will take a while. After QL Finals, which take place after this CS Final which is on map 2 of 2/3. So I'd say at least 90-120min until SC2 finals start. Depends how long the other games take and how long the pauses are in between.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 18:37:34
January 23 2011 18:36 GMT
#694
On January 24 2011 03:27 GenoZStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 03:20 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On January 24 2011 03:17 GenoZStriker wrote:
On January 24 2011 03:05 chobopeon wrote:
On January 24 2011 03:01 Eury wrote:
The CS community has promoted the heck out of this event while the SC community has largely ignored it. Just compare TL's coverage of a MLG event, the coverage of this tournament is really disappointing.

Not that the IEM guys are much better when they can't even bother to add their streams to the event on TL.


yeah. well, to be fair, everyone's focus has been on jinro/idra, right? this is a collection of the best cs teams in the world afaik, not so with sc2.

Let's be honest though, these are the best players in Europe and regardless should not be ignored.


10 T and 2 P in a 4 day event with 2 days having almost no matches deflates a lot of hype that could be there. Add to that the GSL semifinals which will obviously have more hype and this is what you get.

Not sure what hype has to do with online coverage. In TeamLiquid's case I understand because they have no players competing in IEM but they still do it. Other news sites have no excuse for not covering it because "everyone's focus has been on jinro/idra, right?"


This seems a little like the chicken-egg question. Does nobody care because there is little coverage or is there little coverage because nobody cares.

ps: Demuslim should have made 2 banshees like 10 minutes ago.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
January 23 2011 18:37 GMT
#695
I don't get why ESL isn't providing coverage/threads/streams themselves yet they mention TL all the time. The featured thread went up when the tournament already started. It just feels like something is "going to waste" since those events are pretty awesome. Curious how the coverage for the world finals will be given that it's right before TSL.
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
January 23 2011 18:37 GMT
#696
On January 24 2011 03:32 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 03:22 resilve wrote:
On January 24 2011 03:01 Eury wrote:
The CS community has promoted the heck out of this event while the SC community has largely ignored it. Just compare TL's coverage of a MLG event, the coverage of this tournament is really disappointing.

Not that the IEM guys are much better when they can't even bother to add their streams to the event on TL.



It feels really weird.

The quality of players for sc2 is pretty much on par with an MLG event (less numbers, but in terms of top-tier pros it is comparable), and the offline setup is clearly costly and well produced - and yet there has been hardly any hype or secondary and tertiary media (fans at the event, their photos interviews and such) .

I didnt even know this IEM was going on until it was mentioned at the homestory cup....thats completely unacceptable for a tournament of this magnitude I feel >.<

I dont get what you are talking about. Secondary and teriary media? You expect to be informed by TV comercial or what? I dont get it.
We were informed about this happening just the same way as about the other tourneys, which was via tl and other sc web sites. Dont see how there was any difference.



No, secondary and tertiary as in user generated, not primary media produced by the organizers.

Look at MLG Dallas and compare the 3-4 sets of interview by various non-official organizations, 2-3 photostreams by users, tons of forum posts, all ways of fans reporting back their thoughts and experiences after each day.

Here there seems no connection between community and event. I assume there is with goodgame.ru and the russian scene.
Socke Fighting!!!!
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
January 23 2011 18:39 GMT
#697
Any update on when the final will be? Between 20.00 and 22.00 doesn't seem to be too accurate .
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 23 2011 18:42 GMT
#698
Hm there were so many interviews here, more then I would ever care to watch lol.
Maybe there were less posts on the TL thread, but I dont see how that should be of importance or influence my viewing experience.
Off-season = best season
Eggcake
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland722 Posts
January 23 2011 18:42 GMT
#699
Well, there is no such thing as accuracy regarding the times in this event. And the same question was asked like 5 posts ago...
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
January 23 2011 18:42 GMT
#700
Really nice patient play from DM. WP!
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 102 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 143
WinterStarcraft138
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2077
GuemChi 1362
Artosis 649
ProTech139
Light 138
Terrorterran 18
Force[name] 4
Dota 2
monkeys_forever494
NeuroSwarm210
League of Legends
Doublelift5208
JimRising 712
Trikslyr48
Counter-Strike
taco 467
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox589
Other Games
summit1g11224
shahzam580
C9.Mang0342
PiGStarcraft299
Maynarde122
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1053
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki14
• Pr0nogo 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra994
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
8h 40m
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
21h 40m
The PondCast
1d 7h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 8h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Yamato Cup
5 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Rogue vs Classic
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.