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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
December 10 2010 11:47 GMT
#2341
On December 10 2010 20:29 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Game 1 started with a proxy fact - Did Jinro have the same plan for this game as we saw in game 4? We'll never know (unless he tells us)


Proxy fact on steppes = scouting fact
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
December 10 2010 11:47 GMT
#2342
On December 10 2010 20:41 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 20:40 Fa1nT wrote:
So if in a best of 5

Player 1 wins 2 times, then loses 3 times

In Ro32, player one is the "better" player, because games 3, 4, and 5 would never happen.

In Ro8, player 2 is the "better" player.



Player 1 is a better at the time because he won. That's how competitions work. It doesn't matter how good you were a couple days before, or good you will become weeks after. Everything depends on how good you are now. If win now, you're the better player.


Wow this logic is so flawed. You dont gamble do you? You shouldn't you would get cleaned out pretty quickly.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 10 2010 11:47 GMT
#2343
On December 10 2010 20:44 PapaDragon wrote:
I ve heard, that MC got a cellphone in his pocket (muted / on vibration) and always knew about Jinros BO.
1 rang for 1 Base Push
2 rangs for FE
3 rangs for Thor Rush



hahahahahha
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
mcbrite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany229 Posts
December 10 2010 11:47 GMT
#2344
Utter rape! Very disappointing to watch... Almost seemed like they were playing 2 different games...

Kinda strange series...
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 10 2010 11:50 GMT
#2345
The dream has ended. =(

Oh well, at least MC will win it. HOPEFULLY. If that doesn't happen, I'll be pissed off for the 3rd GSL in a row.
Lynda
Profile Joined May 2010
649 Posts
December 10 2010 11:50 GMT
#2346
by the time I came home the first 3 games were already over :/ expected the series to last much longer than 1 hour overall

Jinro probably had one of the biggest opportunities any foreigner will ever have to win a GSL season, but oh well. grats to MC, and grats to Jinro for getting so far
TributeBoxer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States163 Posts
December 10 2010 11:52 GMT
#2347
On December 10 2010 20:44 PapaDragon wrote:
I ve heard, that MC got a cellphone in his pocket (muted / on vibration) and always knew about Jinros BO.
1 rang for 1 Base Push
2 rangs for FE
3 rangs for Thor Rush



Jinro had a bluetooth in his beanie, but it didn't matter.
"Violence and corruption, seldom strangers to the human scene, appear to be increasing today."
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
December 10 2010 11:53 GMT
#2348
On December 10 2010 20:44 LittleeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 20:30 confusedcrib wrote:
Anyone know how jinro could have won?


I'll go for a raw guess:
Played better?


Thanks I'll implement this in my own play...So you have no idea
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
Intangibil
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania20 Posts
December 10 2010 11:55 GMT
#2349
Due to some personal issues, i did not see many games prior to the RO4, but heard a lot of positive stuff about Jinro, how good he is and how solid he plays. Quite frankly, i did not see any of that today, there was not one moment throughout the 4sets where Jinro looked to have even the slightest edge. I hate when people tend to over-inflate value.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
December 10 2010 11:55 GMT
#2350
On December 10 2010 20:34 Samim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 20:30 dabom88 wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:27 Samim wrote:
Can you guys imagine if Fruiterdealer or Nestea advanced to the finals like they should have? We would actually have a final worth watching.


Why should they have advanced to the finals? They lose. if you lose, you shouldn't advance to the finals. It's that simple.


Well, by 'should have' I mean, they are far better players than both Hongun and Rain. I realize they lost, but they are still much better and would make a better series than the 4-0 thrashing both Jinro and Rain did/will get.

Ok, look. During the last BW individual leagues, everyone on the forum was ordering everyone else to desire a Flash versus Jaedong finals, because it would be the best possible finals.

The finals were bad. Irredeemably bad. The best matches by far were the MSL semi-finals. Both Flash versus Fantasy and Jaedong versus Light were much more entertaining.

Both former GSL champions are capable of performing poorly. And they proved it very recently. So let's not assume that they would have made better television had they reached the finals, especially considering that the finals haven't happened yet.
High five :---)
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
December 10 2010 11:55 GMT
#2351
On December 10 2010 20:40 Fa1nT wrote:
So if in a best of 5

Player 1 wins 2 times, then loses 3 times

In Ro32, player one is the "better" player, because games 3, 4, and 5 would never happen.

In Ro8, player 2 is the "better" player.



Well, sure, if you want to just make up a set of games that would never happen.

You dont play a Bo3 the same as you play a Bo5. If you cant adapt fast enough to win a Bo3, you don't deserve a chance at a Bo5 in the first place.
Like a G6
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 11:58:49
December 10 2010 11:56 GMT
#2352
edit: wrong thread
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
December 10 2010 11:56 GMT
#2353
btw TSL.Guineapig have quit TSL so... Rain has only one practice partner.
You know what I'm talking about
AlexDeLarge
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania218 Posts
December 10 2010 11:57 GMT
#2354
On December 10 2010 20:53 confusedcrib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 20:44 LittleeD wrote:
On December 10 2010 20:30 confusedcrib wrote:
Anyone know how jinro could have won?


I'll go for a raw guess:
Played better?


Thanks I'll implement this in my own play...So you have no idea


He could have tried a complete overhaul of his play style if he acknowledged that MC is the superior player and reads him like a book. Maybe instead of calm, collected reactionary style - trying blind aggression or something totally unpredictable to catch MC off guard. Don't even practice it, just go full improv and see where it takes you. He would have probably still lost, but i think he'd given MC a harder run for his money.
Its only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
December 10 2010 11:57 GMT
#2355
On December 10 2010 20:55 kzn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 20:40 Fa1nT wrote:
So if in a best of 5

Player 1 wins 2 times, then loses 3 times

In Ro32, player one is the "better" player, because games 3, 4, and 5 would never happen.

In Ro8, player 2 is the "better" player.



Well, sure, if you want to just make up a set of games that would never happen.

You dont play a Bo3 the same as you play a Bo5. If you cant adapt fast enough to win a Bo3, you don't deserve a chance at a Bo5 in the first place.


But really, does extended series really show the better player? how do it know?
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
December 10 2010 11:57 GMT
#2356
On December 10 2010 20:28 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 20:24 merin wrote:
Rain has 9 days to prepare the master cheese of his life


MC hasn't cheesed at all.


Whats the safest opening build for terrans? I wish Jinro had played a little more safe just like he used to. I think the best way to defend against the insane pressure from MC is by playing it as safe as possible,,,,,not by cheesing, but we will see.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
December 10 2010 11:57 GMT
#2357
On December 10 2010 20:55 Intangibil wrote:
Due to some personal issues, i did not see many games prior to the RO4, but heard a lot of positive stuff about Jinro, how good he is and how solid he plays. Quite frankly, i did not see any of that today, there was not one moment throughout the 4sets where Jinro looked to have even the slightest edge. I hate when people tend to over-inflate value.



LOL, because MC is in a whole different level.. you'll see that when he rapes rain.. check out jinro's others game and we are not over-inflating his skill level..
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Keef
Profile Joined October 2010
United States30 Posts
December 10 2010 12:01 GMT
#2358
On December 10 2010 20:47 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 20:29 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Game 1 started with a proxy fact - Did Jinro have the same plan for this game as we saw in game 4? We'll never know (unless he tells us)


Proxy fact on steppes = scouting fact

He made a hellion out of it, actually.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
December 10 2010 12:01 GMT
#2359
On December 10 2010 20:56 namedplayer wrote:
btw TSL.Guineapig have quit TSL so... Rain has only one practice partner.


Why do people always forget fucking Sangho?
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 12:04:13
December 10 2010 12:02 GMT
#2360
On December 10 2010 20:50 Talin wrote:
The dream has ended. =(

Oh well, at least MC will win it. HOPEFULLY. If that doesn't happen, I'll be pissed off for the 3rd GSL in a row.


If you were pissed at FD winning the 1st GSL then there is something wrong with you

I'm a TSL fan and I'll root for Rain, just because I think Tester is still superior to MC. MC has shaky nerves, so I'm not sure about how well he might perform in the final. Regardless, the final will be more like Tester vs all oGs terrans. Both Rain and MC are skilled enough to pull anything so it will all depend on strategy choices.

Edit: I'm sorry I forgot Sangho
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