EPT[GSL] S3 Ro4 Day 2 - Page 116
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confusedcrib
United States1307 Posts
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:27 Samim wrote: Can you guys imagine if Fruiterdealer or Nestea advanced to the finals like they should have? We would actually have a final worth watching. Why should they have advanced to the finals? They lose. if you lose, you shouldn't advance to the finals. It's that simple. | ||
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Pbartender
Netherlands55 Posts
Really, that's what happened. | ||
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Fenrisulf
United States325 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:26 Taf the Ghost wrote: Anyone remember that Clan tournament they ran, where MC BM'd the other team (can't remember which), then proceeded to all-kill them? If his nerves issue is settled, Rain may leave screaming from the Finals. Part of it was probably that Jinro & MC play each other too much, and MC just knew Jinro's style too well. But, grats to MC. I had a feeling MC was going to win, but was really pulling for Jinro. Though we still get to see Jinro in Code S in January and can root for an oGs-TL member in the finals! that was the brainbox team tournament, i believe that was against werra, a little flashback to his suicide toss days but this time with the skill to back it up. Man...MC amazes me....he makes stalkers look OP which is saying something.. x_X I see toss players falling left and right to early aggression/all in and timing pushes, but MC just doesn't care..lol..... My only worry for MC not taking the finals is if Tester, SangHo, and Clide develop some insane anti-MC/anti-toss build, probably centered around stopping that early aggression..after all Rain has already stated in interviews twice that his teammates have planned his games for him.. | ||
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MiNDtriX
Sweden146 Posts
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:30 Fenrisulf wrote: that was the brainbox team tournament, i believe that was against werra, a little flashback to his suicide toss days but this time with the skill to back it up. Man...MC amazes me....he makes stalkers look OP which is saying something.. x_X I see toss players falling left and right to early aggression/all in and timing pushes, but MC just doesn't care..lol..... My only worry for MC not taking the finals is if Tester, SangHo, and Clide develop some insane anti-MC/anti-toss build, probably centered around stopping that early aggression..after all Rain has already stated in interviews twice that his teammates have planned his games for him.. I think he all-killed TSL? | ||
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Providence
United States125 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:27 lol12tree wrote: no sorry. hes up there with genius and InCa but TesteR has always and will always be the protoss leader. fact not opinion. While I absolutely love Tester, you're forgetting that Tester has failed to qualify twice for seasons 2 and 3. Fact not opinion. | ||
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EffectS
Belgium795 Posts
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:30 confusedcrib wrote: Anyone know how jinro could have won? he could've won that last game if he played it safe and moved his command center on the side of the map rather than straight down the middle, forgetting about sentries and stalkers | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
that was oGsTOP | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:30 confusedcrib wrote: Anyone know how jinro could have won? Diversified his play a little and teched or built a bigger army before expanding maybe. Aggressive play beats expansion-focused play. That's how the game is balanced. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:30 dabom88 wrote: Why should they have advanced to the finals? They lose. if you lose, you shouldn't advance to the finals. It's that simple. Because they are better. | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
If they are better, shouldn't they win? | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
Overall it seems like the way to win GSL is to play aggressive but not predictable. As P, mix stuff up between VR rushes, DT rushes, heavy gateway pressure (3/4-gate) or proxy gateways. As T, do a thor rush, a cloak banshee rush, 3rax push, proxy rax's. Then also add the fact that you can mostly hide all those pushes by placing buildings around the map, or giving the enemy false info by cancelling buildings or so. How exactly are you gonna be ready for all those rushes? I mean, how many games have we seen MC, Rain or HongUn go past 2 bases? How many games has MC openened the typical "safe" build, 2/3gate-robo, getting an observer out, scout and adapt? Zero? A cloaked banshee would've raped half MCs builds, but instead MC forces adaption upon the opponent by playing agressive himself. Obviously Jinro made it to the semis so we shouldn't count that way of playing out yet, but it just seems so dependable on getting perfect scouting info done. And from what I've seen FEing has been a huge risk most GSL, people are too good at busting them with timing attacks. | ||
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Samim
Canada35 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:30 dabom88 wrote: Why should they have advanced to the finals? They lose. if you lose, you shouldn't advance to the finals. It's that simple. Well, by 'should have' I mean, they are far better players than both Hongun and Rain. I realize they lost, but they are still much better and would make a better series than the 4-0 thrashing both Jinro and Rain did/will get. | ||
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Deleted User 61629
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Pbartender
Netherlands55 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:29 hiyo_bye wrote: I am very impressed with MC's play, but in retrospect, I think Jinro just needs to scout more overall. I thought Jinro was one of the better players when it came to scouting and adapting his play. It's just you need time to do that, else you're adapting to the fact that you lost  | ||
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Providence
United States125 Posts
It takes more than being better--it takes being better at the right time. Just like with MC and Jinro. We all see their beastliness now, but the first few seasons it just wasn't their time yet. | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On December 10 2010 20:30 dabom88 wrote: They lost. If you lose, you shouldn't advance to the finals. It's that simple. Last time I checked, that's how tourneys work. (edited for grammatical correctness) | ||
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