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Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 12:39:07
November 29 2010 12:38 GMT
#2721
Yay the Nada-killer Loses...
Sorry but I have to be biased in this game! This JSL guy took away a huge part of what GSL3 could have meant for me.
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
November 29 2010 12:38 GMT
#2722
Is there actually and PvX game where you don't hear the term "Beautiful forcefields!" from literally every caster out there?

It's not that hard to make forcefield usage seem beautiful -.-
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
November 29 2010 12:38 GMT
#2723
Somebody else make the last 1/2 Polls I have to melt some Iron :D

Poll: Would you recommend Game 1 ?

No (39)
 
66%

Yes (11)
 
19%

Check it out if you have time (9)
 
15%

59 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend Game 1 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time

Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 29 2010 12:38 GMT
#2724
This I don't understand, protoss plays impressively when just makes a few colossi and runs to Terrans natural?

He had more stuff alright... but that's pretty much all there was to that game.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Mr_Kzimir
Profile Joined August 2010
France268 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2725
Yeah collosus are so great on LT with close air
"Infantry , it's all about it"
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2726
T made a ton of vikings but way too few actual units. Then he got boxed into the nat where he couldn't engage.

I think he had a chance to reduce the colossus count with his drops at several times - better to remake marauders than overinvest in vikings.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2727
On November 29 2010 21:38 Klive5ive wrote:
Good to see even great players like JSLZenith lose to Colossus timings on LT; it isn't just me xD
If you get T6 vs P3 it's even worse.


On the flip side, it's nice to see colossus timings actually work on LT =P
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2728
I am telling you. Terran is going to scv allin.
I had a good night of sleep.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2729
Cross positions on DQ.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2730
On November 29 2010 21:38 Klive5ive wrote:
Good to see even great players like JSLZenith lose to Colossus timings on LT; it isn't just me xD
If you get T6 vs P3 it's even worse.


Well JSL had way too many vikings and not enough MM and he even had a drop in HongUns main so he had even less units.
konaman
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia283 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2731
On November 29 2010 21:38 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
This I don't understand, protoss plays impressively when just makes a few colossi and runs to Terrans natural?

He had more stuff alright... but that's pretty much all there was to that game.


Pretty poor interpretation of the game, Terran procrastinated a bit early and Hongun got ahead.
MDew
Profile Joined November 2010
United States256 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2732
On November 29 2010 21:38 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
This I don't understand, protoss plays impressively when just makes a few colossi and runs to Terrans natural?

He had more stuff alright... but that's pretty much all there was to that game.



Terran over-made vikings vs only 3 colossi, had too little bio to fight the stalkers.
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2733
On November 29 2010 21:36 Kreb wrote:
Terran was just smart. I mean honestly, if you were T and went up against Ret in a game for a lot of money, would you go into mass expand move and try to beat him in a macro game?

Though so.

Personally I would like to see the game changed to lessen the amount of viable 1base plays from T, but there is no way that can be done without making it possible for T to keep up with Z late game. As the game is currently, going beyond 2base against Z as T just seems incredibly risky, and often staying 1base over expanding to 2base seems like the better option too. Dont hate the player, hate the game.


think the only way to do this is to make the maps bigger.. Current BW maps are so large that they almost always encourage a macro game... also it'll obviously change the metagame.. so blizz, when deciding balance changes, do take into consideration the map pool...
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
November 29 2010 12:39 GMT
#2734
On November 29 2010 21:33 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 21:29 Node wrote:
I'm not gonna blame Jungle Basin for ret losing the third game, but damn straight I'll blame Steppes and the lack of a veto system for him losing the series. I just can't fathom why GOM got rid of the veto system. Protip: If you want more map variety, introduce more maps.


They got rid of the map veto system because the same 4 or 5 maps(cant remember the exact count) kept showing up and GOM didnt like that and they were right it was growing stale. Introducing maps is up to blizz and they are also heavy sponsors for this tournament so GOM can only do so much regarding that(unless I've misunderstood it completely ).


There are plenty of other Blizzard maps, though. :/ I'd love to see more games on maps like Crossfire, Junkyard, and Worldship, all of which I would take over Steppes any day of the week.
whole lies with a half smile
Mr_Kzimir
Profile Joined August 2010
France268 Posts
November 29 2010 12:40 GMT
#2735
I think we gonna see 4 gate action or dts
"Infantry , it's all about it"
Mascherano
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Argentina1726 Posts
November 29 2010 12:40 GMT
#2736
I like these positions!
C'mon Hongun you are one of 3 Toss who can get to the Ro8!
Bisu
Meatnose
Profile Joined August 2010
United States141 Posts
November 29 2010 12:40 GMT
#2737
Nice run Ret. You should be proud.
Hell is other people.
Packeteer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States105 Posts
November 29 2010 12:40 GMT
#2738
The Terran player should have picked off the lonely colo in the base when he did a 2x medivac drop. Why would you ever run away from a lone colo vs mauraders?
A Marine walks into a a bar and asks... where is the counter?
_vladimir_
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia530 Posts
November 29 2010 12:40 GMT
#2739
On November 29 2010 21:34 Mr_Kzimir wrote:
I don't think these TvP will reach the level of dreamhack final matches


ROFL
Clueless people are clueless...


Anyhow about Spire in 3rd game. Actualy if he managed to take a breath, gather some resources, that spire would win him game..it could kill that viking, it could kill medivac, and would help lings dpsing marauders and hellions..But constant presure, didnt give him a chance

User was warned for this post
MC:" 2nd game i all in, he drone he drone, me win."
palookieblue
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia326 Posts
November 29 2010 12:40 GMT
#2740
On November 29 2010 21:35 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 21:26 palookieblue wrote:
Keep using the maps as your crutch, it seems to be working well.


Because it's true?

People were talking about it the moment maps were revealed, and they would still be talking about it if Ret won.

I disagree that Ret was outplayed. In fact he deserves credit for being so close to defending the push in the last game, despite the mistakes he made (player under pressure will almost certainly make more mistakes than the aggressive player anyway). From what I've seen in all 3 games, Ret is the better all-round player IMO. On balanced maps, Ret would probably win 7 series out of 10 against this guy.

The thing that irks me is that silly things like this just fuel the talk of Korean superiority.

I thought Ret defended amazing in the last game, so many times I thought he was dead lost but kept going. This doesn't mean he was the better player.

All 3 games just confirmed what is the current viewpoint (not saying that I agree) on TvZ. If you let a zerg macro up and have map control (ala game 1), you're disadvantaging yourself. Likewise, if Zerg is too greedy eco-wise on smaller maps, they are vulnerable to aggression (games 2, 3).

Again, I can respect your opinion that Ret is better, but the fact that he lost doesn't help your cause compared to if he won.
oyoyo
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