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Mr_Kzimir
Profile Joined August 2010
France268 Posts
November 29 2010 12:34 GMT
#2681
I don't think these TvP will reach the level of dreamhack final matches
"Infantry , it's all about it"
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 29 2010 12:34 GMT
#2682
My heart says HongUn but my head said JSL
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 12:35:28
November 29 2010 12:35 GMT
#2683
On November 29 2010 21:26 palookieblue wrote:
Keep using the maps as your crutch, it seems to be working well.


Because it's true?

People were talking about it the moment maps were revealed, and they would still be talking about it if Ret won.

I disagree that Ret was outplayed. In fact he deserves credit for being so close to defending the push in the last game, despite the mistakes he made (player under pressure will almost certainly make more mistakes than the aggressive player anyway). From what I've seen in all 3 games, Ret is the better all-round player IMO. On balanced maps, Ret would probably win 7 series out of 10 against this guy.

The thing that irks me is that silly things like this just fuel the talk of Korean superiority.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
November 29 2010 12:35 GMT
#2684
Wow he could have taken out both those colossi wtf?
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
November 29 2010 12:35 GMT
#2685
On November 29 2010 21:33 SKtheAnathema wrote:
i still have my tarutaru leenock to root for

What?! This fOu team I swear... First theres 1basefOu. Then theres 6poolfOu. Man!!!
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
November 29 2010 12:35 GMT
#2686
theres no such thing as '5 mins, 10 mins no rush' which means you need to know how to deal with timing rush. Look at Nestea.
You know what I'm talking about
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 29 2010 12:35 GMT
#2687
On November 29 2010 21:35 KonohaFlash wrote:
Wow he could have taken out both those colossi wtf?


I don't think he expected the colossi to be all alone.
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2688
Terran was just smart. I mean honestly, if you were T and went up against Ret in a game for a lot of money, would you go into mass expand move and try to beat him in a macro game?

Though so.

Personally I would like to see the game changed to lessen the amount of viable 1base plays from T, but there is no way that can be done without making it possible for T to keep up with Z late game. As the game is currently, going beyond 2base against Z as T just seems incredibly risky, and often staying 1base over expanding to 2base seems like the better option too. Dont hate the player, hate the game.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2689
On November 29 2010 21:32 EpiK-J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 21:24 Sfydjklm wrote:
On November 29 2010 21:20 Mothxal wrote:
This mob mentality here about "zomg teh maps" here is pretty silly. As if spawning cross-position on metalopolis isn't a superbig advantage for Ret in the first game. In game 3 Ret made quite a lot of mistakes and he was outplayed by his opponent. The map actually didn't have anything to do with the loss, because the game never got to the late stages.

no, cross positions on Meta does not give zerg any advantages.
As Cliiide proven in his series vs leenock if you arent fucking garbage you can hang with Z in macro game. But as Mardow kindly pointed out if all you do is SCV all ins how can you ever learn to macro?
Just look at that retard sC making tanks and empty bunkers against muta in the SoW, or Best making tanks vs Broodlords game 1.


Put your bias away mate. Every zerg except maybe kyrix would love to spawn cross positions.

1. It gives you more time to build units when your oppenent attacks
2. Easy access to a 2nd expo. As artosis once said, if zerg spawned close to thier oppenent, the game becomes like jungle basin as its an easy first expo but the second expo is hard.

we're talking
close t>z
far t=z
instead of
close t>z
far t<z
hope that helped.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Mr_Kzimir
Profile Joined August 2010
France268 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2690
I wonder why he didn't redrop -_-
"Infantry , it's all about it"
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2691
On November 29 2010 21:21 disco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 21:19 Drey wrote:
why no more than 2 spine crawlers ret?


This. You see a 1 base all-in, why not invest in a few more spinecrawlers and be absolutely safe.


Because he had medivacs so sunks at ramp wouldn't have defended nat then splitting sunks would have done nothing. So he couldn't build more sunks
KahunaNui
Profile Joined October 2010
Spain257 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2692
I have updated the GOM player and still cannot keep watching, says something about the codecs,the location path of the file or it being damaged. Pleeeeease help me out
Q. You've been criticized for using cheesy builds in the past, but now people are saying that you've played some good games today. A. I'm glad that they think that way, but that won't stop me from using cheesy builds.(oGsHyperdub)
Lucius2
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany548 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2693
its gg
Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2694
the map is indeed terran-favored, as it gives terran a free expo and denies zerg a second expo, but the game never got that long

ret is a very good player, but I think in this game he lost both macro and micro-wise

Macro - theBest did a successful push, was able to damage ret's econ greatly by killing two queens, the deaths of those two important units not only mean less larva for drones / units, it also setup a free killing spree for the viking, it killed 5 overlord, not only it costed 500 minerals, it also used up precious larva while its number was already lower than it should be normally, the supply block also made it harder for zerg to catchup both in terms of works and fighting units

Once ret solid macro kicked in, the game was more or less even or in ret's favour, but he made a big strategic mistake here, making a spire, while he should get more banglings or zerglings, as he scouted that terran stayed on 1 base, as long as he defended the next push, he would be in perfect situation, IMO, that spire costed him the game

Micro - cannot believe no one appreciated the good micro of mmm there? if emperor did that, people would be screaming and cheering like crazy
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2695
Would like to see a VR or two from the toss.
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2696
wtf, terran has no unit
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
November 29 2010 12:36 GMT
#2697
On November 29 2010 21:34 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
People don't give enough credit for the viking, that was pretty important.


Yeah that's a good point his queens kept dieing and were unable to kill it. That one viking probably ended up having like 6 or 7 overlord kills total that game which was a pretty serious damper on unit production.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 29 2010 12:37 GMT
#2698
BROTOSSS LETS GOOO
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 29 2010 12:37 GMT
#2699
terran ggs, 0-1
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
billywayne
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil109 Posts
November 29 2010 12:37 GMT
#2700
protoss fighting!
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