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EpiK-J
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia78 Posts
November 29 2010 12:32 GMT
#2661
On November 29 2010 21:24 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 21:20 Mothxal wrote:
This mob mentality here about "zomg teh maps" here is pretty silly. As if spawning cross-position on metalopolis isn't a superbig advantage for Ret in the first game. In game 3 Ret made quite a lot of mistakes and he was outplayed by his opponent. The map actually didn't have anything to do with the loss, because the game never got to the late stages.

no, cross positions on Meta does not give zerg any advantages.
As Cliiide proven in his series vs leenock if you arent fucking garbage you can hang with Z in macro game. But as Mardow kindly pointed out if all you do is SCV all ins how can you ever learn to macro?
Just look at that retard sC making tanks and empty bunkers against muta in the SoW, or Best making tanks vs Broodlords game 1.


Put your bias away mate. Every zerg except maybe kyrix would love to spawn cross positions.

1. It gives you more time to build units when your oppenent attacks
2. Easy access to a 2nd expo. As artosis once said, if zerg spawned close to thier oppenent, the game becomes like jungle basin as its an easy first expo but the second expo is hard.
SkyZz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States337 Posts
November 29 2010 12:32 GMT
#2662
On November 29 2010 21:30 konaman wrote:
People need to get over the knee jerk bitter and disrespectful tantrums every time a player they like loses.


This.

Its funny because if the Terran was some1 like Jinro you would be hearing stuff like "great micro", "OMG so good!11111".....

We all love foreigners to make it far and win but....
TMK
Nickgazord
Profile Joined June 2010
United States64 Posts
November 29 2010 12:32 GMT
#2663
Artosis was talking about a big meta game shift around the time of this GSL. I expect to not see half these players ever again once things start getting figured out a little better.
"i dont think any amount of nerves will make someone scout with a Zealot" JP
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
November 29 2010 12:32 GMT
#2664
On November 29 2010 21:31 StUfF wrote:
Ret was correct to go for the spire imo. He lost all his queens and T could have easiliy gone banshees and just won it - spinecrawlers did practically nothing vs stimmed marauders with medivacs, , the choke really messed with the ability to get lings out there T even mismicroed and lost 3-4 hellions for nothing.

Ret really lost it in the first attack - he was just scrambling to defend vs the 5 things that T could have followed up (banes vs marines/spire vs air/crawlers for hellions).


I agree actually. Going spire wasn't as important as skipping on an extra spine crawler or two. The T never had more than 2-3 marines in Ret's base at a given time. It was mostly comprised of marauder hellion and of course the viking. If the aggression let up just a little bit Ret could have popped out a Muta or two and stopped the attack dead.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Mr_Kzimir
Profile Joined August 2010
France268 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2665
Funny to see how Tastosis find 3G1R viable when day9 trash it all the time
"Infantry , it's all about it"
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2666
On November 29 2010 21:31 billywayne wrote:
yay 2 expansions, guess there will be no all-ins this game


You can go for a 2 base all in tho ;o
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2667
On November 29 2010 21:32 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 21:31 DoXa wrote:
will there even be a GSL4? i thought not.
and everyone who didn't achieve S-Class will need to qualify and for those who didn't get A-Class (which ret hasn't) it will be even more difficult to get into the GSL

Code B which how to get into Code B and what it means is unknown.


Code B means you'll have to play in a qualifier tournament to get Code A.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2668
On November 29 2010 21:31 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 21:28 Gann1 wrote:
he one base all-ined both the games he won

i don't think it's unreasonable to think that the better player didn't win the series


He didn't all-in either game. He eliminated all the Queens with Banshees and used Hellions to win game 2.

He won game 3 with a multi-pronged attack with constant reinforcements.

Neither game did he all-in. So,, uh???


Game 3: no expansion after 12 or more minutes, mining with mules is pretty much all-in
Aus.Force
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 12:33:43
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2669
not teching colo? does this mean we get to see carriers maybe?

edit: crap, and there goes the robo
"no need for cinema, just watch special taktiks" - white-ra
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2670
i still have my tarutaru leenock to root for
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2671
We need a broader map pool with larger balanced maps and the ability for both to veto 2 maps down.
That would create better balance over all.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2672
On November 29 2010 21:29 Node wrote:
I'm not gonna blame Jungle Basin for ret losing the third game, but damn straight I'll blame Steppes and the lack of a veto system for him losing the series. I just can't fathom why GOM got rid of the veto system. Protip: If you want more map variety, introduce more maps.


They got rid of the map veto system because the same 4 or 5 maps(cant remember the exact count) kept showing up and GOM didnt like that and they were right it was growing stale. Introducing maps is up to blizz and they are also heavy sponsors for this tournament so GOM can only do so much regarding that(unless I've misunderstood it completely ).
Do you really want chat rooms?
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2673
HongUn teching to Colossus.
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2674
On November 29 2010 21:26 Tiny.pat wrote:
More spine crawlers would have done nothing at all. He had 2 dropshipmedics anyway so he could have easily elevatorted everything up or to the nat or somewhere else..


This might be true if units were dropped instantly. If he elevatored his attack would have failed straight up b/c speedlings/banes would have been waiting. Plus it is slower = more units made for zerg.

If he makes spines he wins.
Victim
Profile Joined August 2010
United States188 Posts
November 29 2010 12:33 GMT
#2675
The map didn't seem to really factor in the last game. Sure, Jungle sucks for zerg, mostly because there is no real good third base for them. OTOH, some of the areas make it easier for Terran to defend its second or third bases.

Ret lost before anyone could take a third, didn't get backdoored, the units that were defending the back were in position to defeat the drop.

That push could have worked on most maps.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
November 29 2010 12:34 GMT
#2676
The terran seems a bit disoriented right now
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 12:34:35
November 29 2010 12:34 GMT
#2677
On November 29 2010 21:30 AlexDeLarge wrote:
All the crying nerds should get it into their thick skull once and for all. Terran does NOT play like zerg. You do not need to expand expand expand and then try to win late game. In fact, it's counterintuitive. Terran has mules, which makes 1 base + strong timing pushes probably the best option to win - especially against a race with insane late game but rather weak and exposed early game. Stop blaming or hating terrans for taking advantage of their racial strengths.


But dont whine about TvZ lategame when your all-in strats dont work anymore. You better start to learn TvZ macro games instead of all-inning every game (yes 1base IS all-in)
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
November 29 2010 12:34 GMT
#2678
oh god, colo vs bio, what a suprise!
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 29 2010 12:34 GMT
#2679
Nice nice, taking out the rocks suggest he intends to take this game into a macro game. :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 29 2010 12:34 GMT
#2680
People don't give enough credit for the viking, that was pretty important.
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