EPT[GSL] S3 Ro32 Day 2 - Page 127
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RedHelix
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Okay guys stop the hate. Maps sucked but TheBest played well. To beat Ret on any map you have to play really good even if it is Steppes or Jungle Basin. A voice of reason in a sea of nerdrage~ | ||
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kirkybaby
Korea (South)781 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
Ret was distinctly seemed like a stronger player. What I mean is that while Best played amazingly, he did so with a sort of gimmicky style, while Ret's style is something that will make him the best Zerg in the world soon. Best's use of rapid tech switching was amazing, allowing him to always have the abusive unit composition for the circumstances. It's not something I've seen much of before, at least at that level of execution. While game 2 was on an entirely bullshit map, you can't say the maps are at fault for game 3 at all. Ask yourself why that map is bad for Zerg. Now ask yourself how that could have been an issue in a game against a one-baser. It does play a role in the Zerg's metagame assessment of the map, so I suppose it is abusive in that way, but Ret's metagame assessment could hardly have prepared him for that series. I'm frustrated and disappointed that Ret lost, but his opponent won in an intelligent and well-executed manner. I guess I would be far far more pissed if our boy in blue had lost in any other fashion. | ||
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Obbalord
Germany166 Posts
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Mainland
Canada551 Posts
The viking was left to kill overlords after that first push. You can't just blame the maps and balance. | ||
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
just needed an extra crawler at the choke. Also.. no point in making lings and banelings when you are being forced to pulled drones to surround. Roaches + drones would've helped clean that up. | ||
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poilord
Germany3252 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:17 KonohaFlash wrote: There was no all-in don't know what some people on this board are complaining about. The only problem was the maps. Ridiculous how only 1 map was good for zerg while the rest were unbelivably horrid. So you would consider not taking an expo and throwing everything he has in one constant attack as not being all-in? If ret had defended, the game would have been over 100%; so I would pretty much consider the terran in that situation to be "all-in" | ||
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Madder
Australia427 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:22 ecdN wrote: Zerg is so underpowered. So underpowered that they won the past two GSL. Terran is so underpowered. So underpowered that they're on 5-0 on Jungle Basin, TvZ. Hopefully, a Zerg can do it again this season. | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
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Mahavishnu
Canada396 Posts
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Endorsed
Netherlands1221 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:23 Corrik wrote: I don't understand the rage in this topic. I understand a TeamLiquid player lost, but people are acting like Ret lost to a nobody. The Terran played very well with a well thought out strategy in SoW and with incredible micro in Jungle Basin. A lot of you have been complaining about Marine + SCV rushing from Terrans every game when the Zerg FE's and this Terran didn't even really do it once. So, basically, you got your wish and now you are even more up in arms. As far as maps, maybe SoW isn't Zerg favored, but I clearly remember FruitDealer take a victory on it not too long ago. The map is winnable. I remember Idra destroying terran players pre patch on steppes of war. (IEM) | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:20 Mothxal wrote: This mob mentality here about "zomg teh maps" here is pretty silly. As if spawning cross-position on metalopolis isn't a superbig advantage for Ret in the first game. In game 3 Ret made quite a lot of mistakes and he was outplayed by his opponent. The map actually didn't have anything to do with the loss, because the game never got to the late stages. no, cross positions on Meta does not give zerg any advantages. As Cliiide proven in his series vs leenock if you arent fucking garbage you can hang with Z in macro game. But as Mardow kindly pointed out if all you do is SCV all ins how can you ever learn to macro? Just look at that retard sC making tanks and empty bunkers against muta in the SoW, or Best making tanks vs Broodlords game 1. | ||
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Vitamins
United States680 Posts
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
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Regstata
United States207 Posts
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Chewie
Denmark708 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:20 Carthac wrote: That smirk on TheBest's face the whole time made me wanted to punch my screen... this | ||
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Firereaver
India1701 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:22 mprs wrote: you bet against fruit dealer? you deserve to be 0/4 lol  Bwahahaha. My thoughts exactly! | ||
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okajunior
United States125 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:21 Dali. wrote: Do you even play Starcraft? Maps are so central to race balance and we all know that Steppes and Jungle Basin are very difficult for Zerg. Steppes bad map for zerg yes, but the game on Jungle didn't even get to mid and late game. Ret just lost to a timing. | ||
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