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n3gative
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada369 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2561
HongUn FTW
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2562
On November 29 2010 21:22 mprs wrote:
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On November 29 2010 21:20 DoXa wrote:
0/3 liquibet, this is going to be 0/4 for sure. fml, what a bad day.

i hope gomtv is going to reconsider giving the players a veto for the maps. because this system is crap, like the maps that blizzard made. i hope gomTV invites professional korean mapmakers for the GSL 2011, this was mentioned in SotG and this has to be done.



you bet against fruit dealer? you deserve to be 0/4 lol


if scfou wouldn't have thrown away his win FD would be out. FD is not confident in ZvT and as soon as he faces a really good Terran he will be out.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2563
On November 29 2010 21:24 pyro19 wrote:
Not hating Bestfou , but GOM seriously need to bring back the Veto system.

Plus , why the hell is Ret Code B? isnt qualifying for the Ro64 automatically makes you a Code A?


I'ts determined by points and there are a lot of people ahead of him, so no he is not code A yet.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2564
Regardless of the chosen maps, TheBest played really well, and ret was sloppy with his queens throughout the series, and made some greedy decisions (as Zerg tend to do). Both very good players, but TheBest prevailed -- pardon the pun.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2565
Wait. Who beat Nada in the qualies? please tell me so I can name my VooDoo doll! Lol.
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 12:25:50
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2566
On November 29 2010 21:24 okajunior wrote:
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On November 29 2010 21:21 Dali. wrote:
On November 29 2010 21:19 Yernbek wrote:
stop crying about the map, it had nothing to do with the outcome, ret got outplayed fanboys


Do you even play Starcraft? Maps are so central to race balance and we all know that Steppes and Jungle Basin are very difficult for Zerg.

Steppes bad map for zerg yes, but the game on Jungle didn't even get to mid and late game. Ret just lost to a timing.

ret lost because he can't spine up because of teh backdoor and the fact that once thebest drops in the back of the base he is invinsible because reinforcing hellions can shoot through the gap.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
nehcnhoj
Profile Joined July 2010
United States213 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2567
On November 29 2010 21:19 On_Slaught wrote:
Making a spire was a HUGE mistake on ret's part.

Also, why he only had 2 spines at his ent absolutely bows my mind. Especially after he scouted the all-in.


This, Spire? really?

Drop spire, build 2-3 more spines at choke (come on man 1 base timing T) bring overlords close to choke so you can fight vikings and choke at the same time. Some other stuff, but totally not spire mannnn (.

Even bigger a fan after that baller macro G1, just sad to see you go out this way.



sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2568
If HongUn now doesn't build carriers as promised, my day is ruined
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2014 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2569
Ret did scout in g3 that the terran goes one base play. His response was incorrect
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2570
Now the foreign hope lies with Idra and Jinro.. oh man this is depressive. Its so hard to watch the GSL when foreigners are constantly losing to stupid gimmick shit.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2571
People don't hate on Terrans for abusing the map imbalances.
You'd do just the same shit if it gave you the best chances to advance.
Maps are too small and shitty to begin with.
Maybe if the on base rushes take out all the zergs we might get better ones in the future.
It's hard to balance the game too when the maps are what they are.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
RiceMuncher
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia138 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2572
How the fuck is one-base play - "cheese", or "all-in"?

And a 12min or whatever push is cheese? Stop the QQ please
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
November 29 2010 12:25 GMT
#2573
On November 29 2010 21:24 Sfydjklm wrote:
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On November 29 2010 21:20 Mothxal wrote:
This mob mentality here about "zomg teh maps" here is pretty silly. As if spawning cross-position on metalopolis isn't a superbig advantage for Ret in the first game. In game 3 Ret made quite a lot of mistakes and he was outplayed by his opponent. The map actually didn't have anything to do with the loss, because the game never got to the late stages.

no, cross positions on Meta does not give zerg any advantages.
As Cliiide proven in his series vs leenock if you arent fucking garbage you can hang with Z in macro game. But as Mardow kindly pointed out if all you do is SCV all ins how can you ever learn to macro?
Just look at that retard sC making tanks and empty bunkers against muta in the SoW, or Best making tanks vs Broodlords game 1.


I'm sorry but saying spawning cross map on metal gives no advantage and then you cite a series where the terran lost.... That is the only series zergs use as an excuse and clide still lost even being the better player...
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
November 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#2574
On November 29 2010 21:22 Microlisk wrote:
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On November 29 2010 21:21 insult wrote:
Mmmmm angry fanboy tears...they taste so sweet.


Look at me I don't root for ret because I'm different and cool!


You can support a player without being an absolute prick and dismissing his opponent.

It's called maturity. Something almost no one in this thread seems to possess.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
November 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#2575
On November 29 2010 21:25 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 21:22 mprs wrote:
On November 29 2010 21:20 DoXa wrote:
0/3 liquibet, this is going to be 0/4 for sure. fml, what a bad day.

i hope gomtv is going to reconsider giving the players a veto for the maps. because this system is crap, like the maps that blizzard made. i hope gomTV invites professional korean mapmakers for the GSL 2011, this was mentioned in SotG and this has to be done.



you bet against fruit dealer? you deserve to be 0/4 lol


if scfou wouldn't have thrown away his win FD would be out. FD is not confident in ZvT and as soon as he faces a really good Terran he will be out.


Since he thinks ZvP is the toughest matchup I guess that would mean he's only good in ZvZ?
beep boop
zemiron
Profile Joined August 2010
United States481 Posts
November 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#2576
I actually respect TheBest's play way more than some of these other Terrans in the tournament. He actually mixed up his play and used some different strategies besides Marine all-in. He was a little more exciting to watch than some of the other Terrans. But regardless of this, something needs to be done.
"Fractal alligators. Like a normal alligator, but instead of arms, there are more alligators." -Day9
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
November 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#2577
I would say TheBest did very well. The viking was simply key to completely shut down ret from doing anything for awhile and it punished ret for beeing so greedy. But ret was probably unsure because he lost his queens and he didnt want a second game2.
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
November 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#2578
dont blame the maps? ret lost the third game sure, but he should be 1-1 instead of eliminated by the second game, just because steppes wasn't the third map doesn't mean it isn't totally imbalanced
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
November 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#2579
I'm really upset Ret lost, but seriously Jungle Basin is a fine map for zerg till they have to get a third setup. Ret needed to probably play safer, he didn't quite have to control to make up for some of his economic tech decision I guess. However god damn I'm sad.
sanctuz
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway184 Posts
November 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#2580
Looking forward to JSL, he really impressed me vs kyrix.
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