Why people are going so crazy about being professional. They do analyze the games and do ok job at it. They are not Day9 in that regards but I personally like to be entertained too.
The chief problem is that if e-sports wants to be taken seriously, it has to behave seriously. I really enjoy the Dan/Nick banter and find both deeply funny, but without a further evolution of e-sports commentary beyond what amounts to the pinnacle of witty frat-boy commentary, you'll never catch a whiff of the kind of mainstream acceptance enjoyed by traditional sports. Despite all of the growth and development that we've seen in professional gaming over the past decade, have no illusions--the e-sport industry is in its absolute infancy, and where it goes from here depends almost exclusively on how it is marketed and presented.
To be clear, I'm not singling out Tastosis for criticism, as every major voice in the community has some issue or another (a little part of me died when JP called something "retarded" at no less a venue than MLG). But be certain of this: if you have any desire for e-sports to ever be on par with billion-dollar sports like baseball, basketball, or soccer, you're going to have to create cross-generational appeal, and you're not going to have that with one of your analysts constantly complaining about imbalance & occasionally insulting teenaged competitors.
It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player
Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it. Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?
Chill.
Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for the eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.
What is professionalism? Isn't Tastetosis making the games entertaining being professional, because that's what they're paid to do? Make the games entertaining? Even assuming your definition of professionalism as a nebulous something that entails them to not joke around about players being brainless, why is it needed? And don't give that semantic handwaving of "because they're professional". That means nothing, it's just a tautology. Why should they adhere to your standard of professionalism? If I get offended by their t-shirts under blazers, should they change to button-ups? After all, most professionals don't wear t-shirts under their blazers, do they? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
Don't be an idiot. They are also bound to professionalism aside from providing entertainment. I'm assuming you've never had a job before.
It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player
Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it. Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?
Chill.
Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for the eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.
What is professionalism? Isn't Tastetosis making the games entertaining being professional, because that's what they're paid to do? Make the games entertaining? Even assuming your definition of professionalism as a nebulous something that entails them to not joke around about players being brainless, why is it needed? And don't give that semantic handwaving of "because they're professional". That means nothing, it's just a tautology. Why should they adhere to your standard of professionalism? If I get offended by their t-shirts under blazers, should they change to button-ups? After all, most professionals don't wear t-shirts under their blazers, do they? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
It's pretty simple, but the most important things: Respect the players, organizers, sponsors, and don't swear. Balance whining and biasedness should also be avoided.
It's really simple, you just need to use common sense. You also can be entertaining without these things. See Tasteless in GSI for instance. No imbalances, no calling players bad, but incredibly entertaining and hilarious.
Sigh, one more hour. T_T I really want to see some more games.
On November 25 2010 17:07 Dfgj wrote: Someone summarize the P v Idra games for me please?
I'm gathering that he tried some 6-gate push, missed his timing badly, and ran into the maw of hydras?
Roughly this. He massed gateway units without tech and got stomped by Idra's trademark Hydra/spine push.
That's not inherently bad - 5/6 gate timing attacks are extremely effective because they rely on having a fuckton more units than Z can field at that point without cutting drones hard. However, if it fails, you usually lose - it's all in because there's no chance in hell you're getting Robotech up in time to recover. However, hydraspine can be beaten by said timing attack.
From reading LRs it sounds like he scouted spines/lairtech and tried a timing attack, but for whatever reason (nerves, being bad, Idra got things out faster, etc), he was late - and that is not a good thing for Protoss. Rather excessive trashtalk in that case, because if you miss the timing on any all-in, that's what happens. It's easy to look impressive if you play a turtle macro style, build up an army, and then lose it to unpressured macro Cyrano v Ret style.
'course, I didn't see Choa's games, so I'm just speculating from LR.
Yeah, you need to watch the games. It wasn't a timing attack unless it was aimed for like Hive tech, he never actually moved out of his natural until the hydras and spines were already in front and he scouted them. And he went 2-gate to start with, to get two fast stalkers with Idra's drone in his base, after he saw Idra go speed first. Then he went for fast hallucination, which is a smart play, and he saw the lair, only he either missed the hydra den or he ignored it, because he continued getting gateways without getting any tech. Then Idra pushed out and after losing the big fight while the spines were burrowing, he basically lost, but he continued doing nothing spamming gateway units without even trying to tech. Granted, Idra was scouting the base, so he would know as soon as a robo was thrown down, giving him a good timing. Also, I think Choa just gave up at that point, because even if he rushed robo from there, he would have gotten stomped just as hard. There was no way Choa could have massed enough units before Idra steamrolled him. Obviously this doesn't take into account why he played poorly, I'm just giving a summary of the game.
On November 25 2010 17:31 Piski wrote: Why people are going so crazy about being professional. They do analyze the games and do ok job at it. They are not Day9 in that regards but I personally like to be entertained too.
Would be a sad day for esports if the casts can't be fun anymore, just business. Yeah remember that word? FUN.
Because he gets paid by GOM as a professional caster?
He is hired to cast the matches and please the viewers, which they are doing a wonderful job? I didn't mean that they should abandon all professionalism and just start drinking beer and talk about other stuff but they are not doing anything wrong now. If esports being big means that we should only hear those boring casts and the casters cannot be themselves and do jokes, I guess I don't want esports to be big.
I don't know if you're just stupid or just does not know the meaning of professionalism. It doesn't only mean "drinking beer and talking about other things". I love the game sense Artosis brings in the cast but what he did is flat out unprofessional and I am sure is something that is not accepted in his field. It is what it is.
Did you actually read what I wrote besides that one line? But ok lets play it this way. In that case I hope they won't be professional, ever. I like their style. I don't want Artosis to mock people all the time don't get me wrong but I'm not getting my panties in a twist over this. He just got a little too excited explaining how bad IdrA's opponents decisision making. Are people seriously this sensitive that they are actually offended by this and feel obligated to "put them in their place" by complaining to gomtv and on forums?
And I agree with you. He did get a little too excited but like I said, it is what it is. The constant bias on players greatly affect the integrity of their casting in my own opinion. And these slip-up comments are examples that their bias towards players are getting out of hand.
It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player
Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it. Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?
Chill.
Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for the eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.
What is professionalism? Isn't Tastetosis making the games entertaining being professional, because that's what they're paid to do? Make the games entertaining? Even assuming your definition of professionalism as a nebulous something that entails them to not joke around about players being brainless, why is it needed? And don't give that semantic handwaving of "because they're professional". That means nothing, it's just a tautology. Why should they adhere to your standard of professionalism? If I get offended by their t-shirts under blazers, should they change to button-ups? After all, most professionals don't wear t-shirts under their blazers, do they? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
Don't be an idiot. They are also bound to professionalism aside from providing entertainment. I'm assuming you've never had a job before.
Rofl, nice argument. Let's attack the other person and totally ignore his points! That's sure to work!
Why are they bound to professionalism? Why would they have to follow some arbitrary rules that have no meaning to them? How is your belief that they shouldn't call players brainless any more valid than mine that they should wear proper attire? See, 'proper' is even in the phrase 'proper attire', if e-sports wants to be legitimatized, they need to be professional and wear proper clothes for every cast! Do you honestly not see how arbitrary your argument is?
It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player
Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it. Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?
Chill.
Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for the eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.
What is professionalism? Isn't Tastetosis making the games entertaining being professional, because that's what they're paid to do? Make the games entertaining? Even assuming your definition of professionalism as a nebulous something that entails them to not joke around about players being brainless, why is it needed? And don't give that semantic handwaving of "because they're professional". That means nothing, it's just a tautology. Why should they adhere to your standard of professionalism? If I get offended by their t-shirts under blazers, should they change to button-ups? After all, most professionals don't wear t-shirts under their blazers, do they? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
It's pretty simple, but the most important things: Respect the players, organizers, sponsors, and don't swear. Balance whining and biasedness should also be avoided.
It's really simple, you just need to use common sense. You also can be entertaining without these things. See Tasteless in GSI for instance. No imbalances, no calling players bad, but incredibly entertaining and hilarious.
Sigh, one more hour. T_T I really want to see some more games.
I honestly don't see how you can derive all of those from common sense. So tasteless and artosis should respect the player, and not call bad play bad because hey, respect the players! Or is that too much respect? What is enough respect then? Calling a play bad? So this argument could have been avoided by Artosis saying that Choa was using a brainless strategy?
Furthermore, if you watched Blizzcon this year, Artosis was pretty blatant in mocking Blizzcon and Blizzard's stream, and everyone enjoyed it, because the stream was fucking trash and everyone hated the huge gaps. To declare that this is no longer kosher because of "common sense" seems a little counter-intuitive, especially when there was so much exposure about it.
E-sports is never going to be traditional sports. The whole point about this is the ability for nerds to have fun on the internet. I was entertained, therefore I hope he continues.
It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player
Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it. Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?
Chill.
Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for the eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.
What is professionalism? Isn't Tastetosis making the games entertaining being professional, because that's what they're paid to do? Make the games entertaining? Even assuming your definition of professionalism as a nebulous something that entails them to not joke around about players being brainless, why is it needed? And don't give that semantic handwaving of "because they're professional". That means nothing, it's just a tautology. Why should they adhere to your standard of professionalism? If I get offended by their t-shirts under blazers, should they change to button-ups? After all, most professionals don't wear t-shirts under their blazers, do they? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
It's pretty simple, but the most important things: Respect the players, organizers, sponsors, and don't swear. Balance whining and biasedness should also be avoided.
It's really simple, you just need to use common sense. You also can be entertaining without these things. See Tasteless in GSI for instance. No imbalances, no calling players bad, but incredibly entertaining and hilarious.
Sigh, one more hour. T_T I really want to see some more games.
Agreed. I have never seen any professional casters calling players brainless before. Why not use the normal "horrible mistake, being silly etc.." People get your point. No need to call anybody brainless. How would you personally feel if somebody called you brainless on TV?
It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player
Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it. Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?
Chill.
Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for the eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.
What is professionalism? Isn't Tastetosis making the games entertaining being professional, because that's what they're paid to do? Make the games entertaining? Even assuming your definition of professionalism as a nebulous something that entails them to not joke around about players being brainless, why is it needed? And don't give that semantic handwaving of "because they're professional". That means nothing, it's just a tautology. Why should they adhere to your standard of professionalism? If I get offended by their t-shirts under blazers, should they change to button-ups? After all, most professionals don't wear t-shirts under their blazers, do they? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
Don't be an idiot. They are also bound to professionalism aside from providing entertainment. I'm assuming you've never had a job before.
Rofl, nice argument. Let's attack the other person and totally ignore his points! That's sure to work!
Why are they bound to professionalism? Why would they have to follow some arbitrary rules that have no meaning to them? How is your belief that they shouldn't call players brainless any more valid than mine that they should wear proper attire? See, 'proper' is even in the phrase 'proper attire', if e-sports wants to be legitimatized, they need to be professional and wear proper clothes for every cast! Do you honestly not see how arbitrary your argument is?
They are bound to professionalism because it's their job. Their job is to entertain and inform to spread e-sports, and honestly, no matter what clothes they wear or what words they say, they aren't doing their job that well.
It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player
Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it. Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?
Chill.
Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for the eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.
What is professionalism? Isn't Tastetosis making the games entertaining being professional, because that's what they're paid to do? Make the games entertaining? Even assuming your definition of professionalism as a nebulous something that entails them to not joke around about players being brainless, why is it needed? And don't give that semantic handwaving of "because they're professional". That means nothing, it's just a tautology. Why should they adhere to your standard of professionalism? If I get offended by their t-shirts under blazers, should they change to button-ups? After all, most professionals don't wear t-shirts under their blazers, do they? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
Don't be an idiot. They are also bound to professionalism aside from providing entertainment. I'm assuming you've never had a job before.
Rofl, nice argument. Let's attack the other person and totally ignore his points! That's sure to work!
Why are they bound to professionalism? Why would they have to follow some arbitrary rules that have no meaning to them? How is your belief that they shouldn't call players brainless any more valid than mine that they should wear proper attire? See, 'proper' is even in the phrase 'proper attire', if e-sports wants to be legitimatized, they need to be professional and wear proper clothes for every cast! Do you honestly not see how arbitrary your argument is?
Because your level of intellect is on par with a rock. You don't get it. Sadly, you never will.
On November 25 2010 17:41 johlar wrote: Saying something like that this one time doesnt really bother me even though he shouldnt. The only problem I have with tastosis is how biased they are with the players/races.
"ZvP is hard", making it sound like PvZ is easy. If they had a ZvP on scrap station they would say something like - 'ZvP is hard, but this map is ok for zerg'
And it gets old, let the results speak for themselves.. no reason to always treat zerg like the underdog
Incontrol on artosis' youtube channel interview couldnt even get him to say scrap station was ok for zerg v protoss all he would say in answer to that was that it was a terran map.
I think most of us are biased. I can live with that and the more he does it the less attention people will pay to his race/map balance comments. It would be nice to have someone who knows more about protoss on the commentary team but we are lucky to get such good casts from korea at the moment. He does seem to be trying to improve in the last couple of days, he was even positive about guneapigs voidray play which I was frankly shocked at. Had Guineapig lost that game though I am sure there would be no end of cyber champions calling his build and him bad and stupid.
Anyway great day, Moon, Gracken and Jinro all advance! I am a happy viewer :D .
It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player
Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it. Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?
Chill.
Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for the eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.
What is professionalism? Isn't Tastetosis making the games entertaining being professional, because that's what they're paid to do? Make the games entertaining? Even assuming your definition of professionalism as a nebulous something that entails them to not joke around about players being brainless, why is it needed? And don't give that semantic handwaving of "because they're professional". That means nothing, it's just a tautology. Why should they adhere to your standard of professionalism? If I get offended by their t-shirts under blazers, should they change to button-ups? After all, most professionals don't wear t-shirts under their blazers, do they? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
Don't be an idiot. They are also bound to professionalism aside from providing entertainment. I'm assuming you've never had a job before.
Rofl, nice argument. Let's attack the other person and totally ignore his points! That's sure to work!
Why are they bound to professionalism? Why would they have to follow some arbitrary rules that have no meaning to them? How is your belief that they shouldn't call players brainless any more valid than mine that they should wear proper attire? See, 'proper' is even in the phrase 'proper attire', if e-sports wants to be legitimatized, they need to be professional and wear proper clothes for every cast! Do you honestly not see how arbitrary your argument is?
They are bound to professionalism because it's their job. Their job is to entertain and inform to spread e-sports, and honestly, no matter what clothes they wear or what words they say, they aren't doing their job that well.
Even though lots of ppl think they're funny '-_-
who are you to judge this?
evrysingle one of my old guildies that i got interested in gsl LOVE tastosis. they where the standart "noobs" that only watched youtube stuff by HD/H or other random guys and now follow gsl closely, one even bought a season ticked.
Lol at anyone trying to say that commentators have to be unbiased to be professional. XD Ever watched a football broadcast in country X when their team is playing in the World Cup for instance?
On November 25 2010 17:09 klauz619 wrote: People already hate idra over there for being quiet and a bit BM, even if he already tries to shape up a bit.
Artosis is a professional caster who calls a guy brainless three times on live TV, that's far worse.
It's also fucking hilarious. And pretty true. The double stalker after scouting gas/pool and with drone in sight? Ignoring/missing the hydra den? And the 6-gate response to a hydra/spine push and refusal to transition? I mean, he'd rock me, but he's still terrible in comparison.
No, it's not hilarious. Call it a bad play, or say that he made an awful mistake. That's fine. But as a supposedly professional anchor you simply do not outright insult competitors for performing poorly, especially when you want so desperately to legitimize the thing you're commentating. The only reason they're getting away with this stuff is because most people around them have no idea what they're saying and they're friends with anyone who does understand.
It's not hilarious to you. Let's be clear here, just reading back along the thread, I think you'll find that most people found it funny. And by making these GSL casts entertaining, Artosis IS helping the development of e-sports by giving e-sports a wider audience. I'm not sure if you've read DJWheat's post about the need for professionalism in e-sports, but I feel pretty strongly that it is not needed in this case. Tastetosis has always had a casual, relaxed atmosphere, and there's nothing wrong with that because the foreign stream for GSL really does not matter. GSL is a Korean tournament, marketed towards the Korean audiences and Korean companies seeking to sponsor/advertise. The foreigners watching do not need to be legitimized because it means nothing to GOMTV. Getting people interested in watching SC2 is much more important than anything else in terms of the foreigner scene, because the more viewers that watch GSL, the more viewers that may want to watch other tournaments in the actual foreign scene, where professionalism IS important, and where there is professionalism in casting.
I don't think you're going to sway any opinions by saying "someone on the internet laughed at it". And you can't really reach a conclusion on what most people watching the stream thought by counting the "LOL" posts in the Team Liquid thread. But sure, I'm quite willing to admit that there are people out there who find cheap shots hysterical.
When I heard it, I sort of cringed. "Casual" is not equivalent to "with insults and bias". I actually spent a lot of today listening to Carefoot's interpretation of the Korean stream instead because there are aspects of the official English language stream that I just find disappointing. I'm sure some people would like to imagine that I hate jokes or something but that is not the case.
So is the premium ticket a service they're selling or is GOM a charity? In what sense does it not matter when they've gone to the trouble of putting an international face on their event? Saying that nothing needs to be legitimized on a forum loaded with people who want this to be considered "e-sports" and not just "video game playing" doesn't make sense, in my opinion.
On November 25 2010 18:15 Holgerius wrote: Lol at anyone trying to say that commentators have to be unbiased to be professional. XD Ever watched a football broadcast in country X when their team is playing in the World Cup for instance?
This. Maybe they wouldn't call the other team brainless but who cares, commentators on TV are anything but unbiased.
On November 25 2010 18:15 Holgerius wrote: Lol at anyone trying to say that commentators have to be unbiased to be professional. XD Ever watched a football broadcast in country X when their team is playing in the World Cup for instance?
If you've ever compared the broadcasts of one country to the broadcasts of another you will immediately recognize which one is more professional. US olympic coverage is abysmal, for example. Almost unwatchable.
On November 25 2010 18:15 Holgerius wrote: Lol at anyone trying to say that commentators have to be unbiased to be professional. XD Ever watched a football broadcast in country X when their team is playing in the World Cup for instance?
Once again, another idiotic reference.
In the World Cup, each country would usually have their OWN commentators cheering for their own country because it is what they are paid to do.
Now, do you actually think the "GSLen" team's job to be biased for the foreigners when they go against the Koreans? Of course not. That is because this isn't a "cheer for your own team" broadcast. There is no Team USA broadcast. This is a GSL broadcast but just in english. Please use your brain next time.
On November 25 2010 18:15 Holgerius wrote: Lol at anyone trying to say that commentators have to be unbiased to be professional. XD Ever watched a football broadcast in country X when their team is playing in the World Cup for instance?
If you've ever compared the broadcasts of one country to the broadcasts of another you will immediately recognize which one is more professional. US olympic coverage is abysmal, for example. Almost unwatchable.
Sounds like ITV's coverage of the world cup. Mind you its not like they werent criticised by the viewers which they were.
On November 25 2010 18:15 Holgerius wrote: Lol at anyone trying to say that commentators have to be unbiased to be professional. XD Ever watched a football broadcast in country X when their team is playing in the World Cup for instance?
This. Maybe they wouldn't call the other team brainless but who cares, commentators on TV are anything but unbiased.
Yup. This is a stream directed towards the foreign community, so I do not see any problem at all with commentators being biased in favour of foreigners.
On November 25 2010 18:15 Holgerius wrote: Lol at anyone trying to say that commentators have to be unbiased to be professional. XD Ever watched a football broadcast in country X when their team is playing in the World Cup for instance?
This. Maybe they wouldn't call the other team brainless but who cares, commentators on TV are anything but unbiased.
Yup. This is a stream directed towards the foreign community, so I do not see any problem at all with commentators being biased in favour of foreigners.
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