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Beagle23
Profile Joined August 2008
Australia52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 08:55:12
November 25 2010 08:50 GMT
#3081
On November 25 2010 17:45 BootySmakaRaX wrote:


I saw your name in the questions and made this for you

Edit: NSFW Warning because people can't handle the sexy
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6541/bootysmackaraxfinal.jpg
BootySmakaRaX
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan82 Posts
November 25 2010 08:51 GMT
#3082
On November 25 2010 17:47 Fighter wrote:

Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?

Chill.


I still cant believe people were upset about that POST MLG cast. People didnt have to watch it so I dont understand the complaint about professionalism in that sense. DJWheat was professional for a whole damn weekend. He was just unwinding like everyone else and gave the viewers the privilege of seeing him and the other pro gamers in a relaxed setting. Id hate to see that rarity dissipate due to a handful of uptight nerds.
RELEASE THE GRACKEN
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 25 2010 08:51 GMT
#3083
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 25 2010 17:50 Beagle23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:45 BootySmakaRaX wrote:


I saw your name in the questions and made this for you

[image loading]

Ban this guy! >:[ My eyes.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
November 25 2010 08:52 GMT
#3084
On November 25 2010 17:51 BootySmakaRaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:47 Fighter wrote:

Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet. People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?

Chill.


I still cant believe people were upset about that POST MLG cast. People didnt have to watch it so I dont understand the complaint about professionalism in that sense. DJWheat was professional for a whole damn weekend. He was just unwinding like everyone else and gave the viewers the privilege of seeing him and the other pro gamers in a relaxed setting. Id hate to see that rarity dissipate due to a handful of uptight nerds.


exactly my thoughts. i cant even imagine how you can be so annoyed by this.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
November 25 2010 08:52 GMT
#3085
On November 25 2010 17:51 Holgerius wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 25 2010 17:50 Beagle23 wrote:
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On November 25 2010 17:45 BootySmakaRaX wrote:


I saw your name in the questions and made this for you

[image loading]

Ban this guy! >:[ My eyes.


2nd that. The nice booty combined with the head turned looking back with Tastosis on their heads hurt my life.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
November 25 2010 08:53 GMT
#3086
I missed these games =(

Anyway I'm extremly happy that Jinro and IdrA made it :D Grats to you both! Special grats to Jinro, you're the boss man!
Mada Mada Dane
k20
Profile Joined September 2010
United States342 Posts
November 25 2010 08:53 GMT
#3087
you guys are literally the biggest babies I've ever seen. can you even go outside with skin so thin? first the zenio arm flailing and now this holy crap suck it up lmao
sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 08:55:47
November 25 2010 08:53 GMT
#3088
On November 25 2010 17:47 Fighter wrote:
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It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player


Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it.

Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet.
People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?

Chill.

Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Next time, think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.
Ghazwan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands444 Posts
November 25 2010 08:54 GMT
#3089
On November 25 2010 17:50 Beagle23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:45 BootySmakaRaX wrote:


I saw your name in the questions and made this for you

snip



Thanks for posting a NSFW pic without warning you idiot.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 08:55:25
November 25 2010 08:54 GMT
#3090
On November 25 2010 17:09 Lann555 wrote:
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On November 25 2010 17:07 Dfgj wrote:
Someone summarize the P v Idra games for me please?

I'm gathering that he tried some 6-gate push, missed his timing badly, and ran into the maw of hydras?


Roughly this. He massed gateway units without tech and got stomped by Idra's trademark Hydra/spine push.

That's not inherently bad - 5/6 gate timing attacks are extremely effective because they rely on having a fuckton more units than Z can field at that point without cutting drones hard. However, if it fails, you usually lose - it's all in because there's no chance in hell you're getting Robotech up in time to recover. However, hydraspine can be beaten by said timing attack.

From reading LRs it sounds like he scouted spines/lairtech and tried a timing attack, but for whatever reason (nerves, being bad, Idra got things out faster, etc), he was late - and that is not a good thing for Protoss. Rather excessive trashtalk in that case, because if you miss the timing on any all-in, that's what happens. It's easy to look impressive if you play a turtle macro style, build up an army, and then lose it to unpressured macro Cyrano v Ret style.

'course, I didn't see Choa's games, so I'm just speculating from LR.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
November 25 2010 08:54 GMT
#3091
On November 25 2010 17:39 namedplayer wrote:
anyway, I have to complain to Gomtv about this. It is easy to call someone "brainless" because you are just watching. every GSL gamers must be respected more than that. Sorry tastosis.

You have an enormous object up your anus to be THAT angry. good god TL is getting some really uppity posters.
legek
Profile Joined September 2010
Slovenia153 Posts
November 25 2010 08:54 GMT
#3092
Is it possible to watch idra's interview? Where can i find it? thx.
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 08:56:23
November 25 2010 08:55 GMT
#3093
On November 25 2010 17:50 Beagle23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:45 BootySmakaRaX wrote:


I saw your name in the questions and made this for you

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6541/bootysmackaraxfinal.jpg


Now see that? THAT's just wrong..
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
BootySmakaRaX
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan82 Posts
November 25 2010 08:56 GMT
#3094
On November 25 2010 17:50 Beagle23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:45 BootySmakaRaX wrote:


I saw your name in the questions and made this for you

Edit: NSFW Warning because people can't handle the sexy
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6541/bootysmackaraxfinal.jpg


Im loling so hard right now.
RELEASE THE GRACKEN
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2010 08:57 GMT
#3095
On November 25 2010 17:42 Holy.BR wrote:
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On November 25 2010 17:25 Endorsed wrote:
On November 25 2010 17:24 Shikyo wrote:
On November 25 2010 17:22 koolaid1990 wrote:
On November 25 2010 17:21 Shikyo wrote:
I believe that Tastosis both have a lot to learn from Day9 in this regard. Day9 almost never brings up balance or anything like that nor does he ever insult nay of the players, or anything like that. He also feels very objective and unbiased most of the time. I really think that they'd have a lot to learn about professionalism from Day9.

as much as i love day9, i wouldnt even buy the gsl ticket if he was casting.. simply because he just doesnt have the style tastosis have.. i mean hes a great analyzer... but... tastosis just more cool

I couldn't care less about you buying the ticket or not, I haven't even bought a ticket myself. I'm just saying that he's a lot more professional.


I agree.




You have to understand that Day9 commentate about lower level basics and his speech is less aimed to the competitive scene kind of audience. In competitive gaming, people want to know and discuss about imbalances, flaws, because they are of big relevance towards the final result if you keep in mind that the high level play makes the play styles close to perfect. In other words, what will heavily give an advantage to one player are the imbalances since they have almost the similar skill level(very high).

What on earth? This is so wrong I don't know where to begin. Only Artosis rivals Day9's knowledge, and his commentary imo is the most difficult for a complete newbie. Complaining about imbalance isn't "high level" at all, what on earth are you on about?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
November 25 2010 08:58 GMT
#3096
If Artosis and Tasteless weren't allowed to say these kinds of things it really wouldn't be them. A big part of what makes them such great casters is that they're not afraid to show some personality instead of obsessing about professionalism. God, this isn't the news they're broadcasting or anything. When a player is about to do a strategically suicidal build should they be restricted to saying "Aww gee, I'm not entirely sure if this is going to go very well".

They both have a lot of experience playing SCBW and Starcraft II so I really don't think them calling a player doing something idiotic a brainless person should be considered a controversy. Let them be who they are, that's what makes their casting so good!
VikingKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China509 Posts
November 25 2010 08:59 GMT
#3097
On November 25 2010 17:53 sc2lime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:47 Fighter wrote:
It's stupid seeing a player get constantly bashed just because the other player is the caster's favourite player


Eh, Tastosis usually make it pretty clear when they're rooting for personal friends of theirs, but I can't really recall them straight up bashing another player because of it. If a player is doing something dumb, they SHOULD be called out on it.

Also yeah, refer to the DJWheat post about the e-sports scene not needing such a high level of professionalism yet.
People who get all uppity about things like this just remind me of Kespa and all of their absurd rules as well. You want us to start banning players who chat or who accidentally throw in an extra p when they pause? I mean, the players are PROFESSIONALS, right?

Chill.

Once again, why are you referring to Wheat about this? You do a horrible job at it. Most of the things that Wheat does for the eSports does not require full professionalism because it is simply voluntary. But when he is paid to cast a big event (like of Artosis), he is professional like it should be because it is a job. This is not a matter of eSports but a matter of professionalism in your job. Think before referencing completely different topics in your argument.

What is professionalism? Isn't Tastetosis making the games entertaining being professional, because that's what they're paid to do? Make the games entertaining? Even assuming your definition of professionalism as a nebulous something that entails them to not joke around about players being brainless, why is it needed? And don't give that semantic handwaving of "because they're professional". That means nothing, it's just a tautology. Why should they adhere to your standard of professionalism? If I get offended by their t-shirts under blazers, should they change to button-ups? After all, most professionals don't wear t-shirts under their blazers, do they? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
November 25 2010 08:59 GMT
#3098
On November 25 2010 17:45 sc2lime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:40 Piski wrote:
On November 25 2010 17:35 sc2lime wrote:
On November 25 2010 17:31 Piski wrote:
Why people are going so crazy about being professional. They do analyze the games and do ok job at it. They are not Day9 in that regards but I personally like to be entertained too.

Would be a sad day for esports if the casts can't be fun anymore, just business. Yeah remember that word? FUN.

Because he gets paid by GOM as a professional caster?


He is hired to cast the matches and please the viewers, which they are doing a wonderful job?
I didn't mean that they should abandon all professionalism and just start drinking beer and talk about other stuff but they are not doing anything wrong now.
If esports being big means that we should only hear those boring casts and the casters cannot be themselves and do jokes, I guess I don't want esports to be big.

I don't know if you're just stupid or just does not know the meaning of professionalism. It doesn't only mean "drinking beer and talking about other things". I love the game sense Artosis brings in the cast but what he did is flat out unprofessional and I am sure is something that is not accepted in his field. It is what it is.


Did you actually read what I wrote besides that one line? But ok lets play it this way. In that case I hope they won't be professional, ever. I like their style. I don't want Artosis to mock people all the time don't get me wrong but I'm not getting my panties in a twist over this. He just got a little too excited explaining how bad IdrA's opponents decisision making.
Are people seriously this sensitive that they are actually offended by this and feel obligated to "put them in their place" by complaining to gomtv and on forums?
BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
November 25 2010 09:01 GMT
#3099
Sometimes I wonder why people (including myself) bother about arguing about professionalism, manners and respect. I mean, this is the internet after all, home of trolling and armchair opinions, and this naturally extends to e-sports.
"I before E...*sunglasses*... except after C." - Jim Carrey
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
November 25 2010 09:01 GMT
#3100
In season1 there were so many complaints about Tastosis. Mainly about the little knowledge and the way they worked together etc.
When u compared it to now they have improved so much. Although Tasteless still isn't like he used to be (might be due to the years of experience with BW compared to SC2) but I have seen some moments where Tasteless acts like he used to be. The spot on funny jokes in certain situations (MAKAPRIME TIME or sharks tune when roaches were burrowed).

And whenever Tastosis are going too far GOMTV will call them out and correct them.
Like the namechange of Tester to sSKS. When it was sSKS they just purposefully called him Tester because it's easier and known ny everyone. But nowadays they refer him as Tester when mentioning sSKS.

Even though we may conceive it as an intentional insult it isn't. They may act like fanboys all the time but when they have to be professional they are. They don't hate an opponent when their fan favourite is losing rather they complimenting the opponent for playing well and criticizing their fan favourite.

People are looking way too much at the negative and bad points of what Tastosis are doing.
People need to give them time and space for them to improve. Artosis and Tasteless are working much better together and improving since GSL1 because they are experiencing how to work together when casting/commentating instead of other events where commentators see eachother once every month or so. Tastosis see eachother every day now and they get the feeling now when to let the other speak more so than before.

For all criticizers come back in 2-3 years and then complain if they are stuck at where they are now. Tastosis bring something of their own rather than others which we've seen past 2 GSL's.

You will miss something when u didn't know it was there is all I can say to them haters.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
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