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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2010 08:21 GMT
#3041
I believe that Tastosis both have a lot to learn from Day9 in this regard. Day9 almost never brings up balance or anything like that nor does he ever insult nay of the players, or anything like that. He also feels very objective and unbiased most of the time. I really think that they'd have a lot to learn about professionalism from Day9.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MDew
Profile Joined November 2010
United States256 Posts
November 25 2010 08:21 GMT
#3042
'Brainless play' is not an insult

Anyone else would of called it retarded.
VikingKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China509 Posts
November 25 2010 08:22 GMT
#3043
On November 25 2010 17:16 WeeKeong wrote:
Now Choa is trash? One series does not determine how good a player is. Choa could be trash, but we don't know. Since hes a decently ranked player on the Korean ladder, it is likely that he is actually a good player but played terribly 2 games in a row. If a random person would watch sanzenith vs CheckPrime in S2, they would think San is an even bigger scrub than Choa.

I dunno man, Choa tossing the game away in set 1 was pretty bad...

Yeah, I agree with you. There's no way that Choa is worse than most people here. He just played poorly in a fashion that exaggerated his gap in skill, with his poor simcity giving the game away in set 1, and the BO loss that, to be fair, he should have at least tried to adapt to in set 2. In any case, people calling him bad are saying so only in regards to this GSL match. I doubt anyone honestly thinks that he's actually trash.
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
November 25 2010 08:22 GMT
#3044
On November 25 2010 17:21 Shikyo wrote:
I believe that Tastosis both have a lot to learn from Day9 in this regard. Day9 almost never brings up balance or anything like that nor does he ever insult nay of the players, or anything like that. He also feels very objective and unbiased most of the time. I really think that they'd have a lot to learn about professionalism from Day9.

as much as i love day9, i wouldnt even buy the gsl ticket if he was casting.. simply because he just doesnt have the style tastosis have.. i mean hes a great analyzer... but... tastosis just more cool
Imhotep
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden267 Posts
November 25 2010 08:22 GMT
#3045
On November 25 2010 17:18 Ner0 wrote:
[image loading]

The Giraffe Migration Build! :D

Oh, boy I laughed hard when he said that.
"The world is a dynamic mess of jiggling things." - Richard Feynman
sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
November 25 2010 08:23 GMT
#3046
On November 25 2010 17:20 smileyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:16 Anytus wrote:
Honestly, I don't think teh brainless comment is that big of a deal. It would be if this were American sports but trash talk is such a part of video games, I'm not sure anyone cares,

the internet drama queens sure do as you can see.

I suck at this game but you know how fucking much I rage when I see people throwing games away by really bad decisions ? No wonder "brainless" slipped Artosis I doubt he will say it again in the future since its somewhat unprofessional but it is really not that big of a deal.


You raging at the game because you're terrible isn't the same as being unprofessional at one's own job. Don't be stupid.
lol12tree
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada88 Posts
November 25 2010 08:23 GMT
#3047
What makes me mad isn't that the P played bad, its that there are SOOOOO MANNNY MOREEEE better P players out there.

Starting from the lowest of profile
Chief (the guy who mothershiip rushed and almost won)
SanZenith
Incontrol
Kiwikaki
HuK
sSKS
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2010 08:24 GMT
#3048
On November 25 2010 17:22 koolaid1990 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:21 Shikyo wrote:
I believe that Tastosis both have a lot to learn from Day9 in this regard. Day9 almost never brings up balance or anything like that nor does he ever insult nay of the players, or anything like that. He also feels very objective and unbiased most of the time. I really think that they'd have a lot to learn about professionalism from Day9.

as much as i love day9, i wouldnt even buy the gsl ticket if he was casting.. simply because he just doesnt have the style tastosis have.. i mean hes a great analyzer... but... tastosis just more cool

I couldn't care less about you buying the ticket or not, I haven't even bought a ticket myself. I'm just saying that he's a lot more professional.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 08:24:41
November 25 2010 08:24 GMT
#3049
what kinda newb uses 2 hands to take a drink
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
November 25 2010 08:25 GMT
#3050
On November 25 2010 17:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:22 koolaid1990 wrote:
On November 25 2010 17:21 Shikyo wrote:
I believe that Tastosis both have a lot to learn from Day9 in this regard. Day9 almost never brings up balance or anything like that nor does he ever insult nay of the players, or anything like that. He also feels very objective and unbiased most of the time. I really think that they'd have a lot to learn about professionalism from Day9.

as much as i love day9, i wouldnt even buy the gsl ticket if he was casting.. simply because he just doesnt have the style tastosis have.. i mean hes a great analyzer... but... tastosis just more cool

I couldn't care less about you buying the ticket or not, I haven't even bought a ticket myself. I'm just saying that he's a lot more professional.


I agree.

Holy.BR
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil67 Posts
November 25 2010 08:25 GMT
#3051
On November 25 2010 17:23 lol12tree wrote:
What makes me mad isn't that the P played bad, its that there are SOOOOO MANNNY MOREEEE better P players out there.

Starting from the lowest of profile
Chief (the guy who mothershiip rushed and almost won)
SanZenith
Incontrol
Kiwikaki
HuK
sSKS



Kiwikaki and incontrol are not even close to ssks, White-ra is the best toss outside korea but no one has the balls to admit it.
=D
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
November 25 2010 08:26 GMT
#3052
Interesting note.

Only 3 players have made the RO32 in every GSL so far: Fruitdealer, Maka and IdrA (and check if he wins today). That's some pretty exclusive company.
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 08:29:39
November 25 2010 08:27 GMT
#3053
On November 25 2010 17:23 sc2lime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:20 smileyyy wrote:
On November 25 2010 17:16 Anytus wrote:
Honestly, I don't think teh brainless comment is that big of a deal. It would be if this were American sports but trash talk is such a part of video games, I'm not sure anyone cares,

the internet drama queens sure do as you can see.

I suck at this game but you know how fucking much I rage when I see people throwing games away by really bad decisions ? No wonder "brainless" slipped Artosis I doubt he will say it again in the future since its somewhat unprofessional but it is really not that big of a deal.


You raging at the game because you're terrible isn't the same as being unprofessional at one's own job. Don't be stupid.


Well I guess I didnt state my argument clearly

I am bad player --> Artosis is not.
Allthough I suck I still rage about other players (when I watch games) when the play poorly. Like in all Football game etc do you get my point now ?.
Since Artosis has a much better understanding of the game seeing such bad play it must affect his mind :D hence the word brainless slipped. Allthough he does it professionally shit happens.
Anybody remembers Foxer first Ro64 games woooah the games were much worse but he and tasteless still managed not to flame the players too much.
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 08:29:39
November 25 2010 08:29 GMT
#3054
Foxer's first Ro64 games were pretty amazing. "okay he's walled himself in..." *lowers wall, moves out, whole army dies* "Whaaaaaaaaaat..."
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
VikingKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 08:32:34
November 25 2010 08:30 GMT
#3055
On November 25 2010 17:17 McDonalds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2010 17:12 VikingKong wrote:
On November 25 2010 17:09 klauz619 wrote:
People already hate idra over there for being quiet and a bit BM, even if he already tries to shape up a bit.

Artosis is a professional caster who calls a guy brainless three times on live TV, that's far worse.

It's also fucking hilarious. And pretty true. The double stalker after scouting gas/pool and with drone in sight? Ignoring/missing the hydra den? And the 6-gate response to a hydra/spine push and refusal to transition? I mean, he'd rock me, but he's still terrible in comparison.

No, it's not hilarious. Call it a bad play, or say that he made an awful mistake. That's fine. But as a supposedly professional anchor you simply do not outright insult competitors for performing poorly, especially when you want so desperately to legitimize the thing you're commentating. The only reason they're getting away with this stuff is because most people around them have no idea what they're saying and they're friends with anyone who does understand.

It's not hilarious to you. Let's be clear here, just reading back along the thread, I think you'll find that most people found it funny. And by making these GSL casts entertaining, Artosis IS helping the development of e-sports by giving e-sports a wider audience. I'm not sure if you've read DJWheat's post about the need for professionalism in e-sports, but I feel pretty strongly that it is not needed in this case. Tastetosis has always had a casual, relaxed atmosphere, and there's nothing wrong with that because the foreign stream for GSL really does not matter. GSL is a Korean tournament, marketed towards the Korean audiences and Korean companies seeking to sponsor/advertise. The foreigners watching do not need to be legitimized because it means nothing to GOMTV. Getting people interested in watching SC2 is much more important than anything else in terms of the foreigner scene, because the more viewers that watch GSL, the more viewers that may want to watch other tournaments in the actual foreign scene, where professionalism IS important, and where there is professionalism in casting.
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
November 25 2010 08:30 GMT
#3056
On November 25 2010 17:26 DoomsVille wrote:
Interesting note.

Only 3 players have made the RO32 in every GSL so far: Fruitdealer, Maka and IdrA (and check if he wins today). That's some pretty exclusive company.


It feels like ST.Rainbow's both to back semi-finals appearances was more impressive as he picked himself back up after losing in S1 and didn't slump or anything after the disappointing loss.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
November 25 2010 08:30 GMT
#3057
Honestly, NexChoa is similar to FoXeR in Ro64 GSL2, only difference being that he lost. I posted it in last season and I'll post it again. Sitting in that booth in broadcasted match is a nerve wracking experience, especially for those who have never done it before. I'm sure that if Choa (or any other poorly performing Ro64 player) had prior experience or no stage fear, he would be even with IdrA, or atleast give him a decent match instead of just being completely rolled over.

Even BW teams are full of players who perform exceptionally in practice but end up losing on stage. Its not easy AT ALL.

All of these armchair quarterbacking platinum/gold leaguers would seriously have no idea about performing on stage. I'm sure that they would end up losing to a worker rush if they played on stage.
Envy fan since NTH.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
November 25 2010 08:31 GMT
#3058
Why people are going so crazy about being professional. They do analyze the games and do ok job at it. They are not Day9 in that regards but I personally like to be entertained too.

Would be a sad day for esports if the casts can't be fun anymore, just business. Yeah remember that word? FUN.
hdkhang
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
November 25 2010 08:31 GMT
#3059
On November 25 2010 17:23 lol12tree wrote:
What makes me mad isn't that the P played bad, its that there are SOOOOO MANNNY MOREEEE better P players out there.

Starting from the lowest of profile
Chief (the guy who mothershiip rushed and almost won)
SanZenith
Incontrol
Kiwikaki
HuK
sSKS


You are forgetting TSL_Killer (aka TSL_BabyByeBye aka SangHo).
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 25 2010 08:33 GMT
#3060
It sucks that these games are at 5am for me. What doesn't suck at all are the results
Go foreigners!
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