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PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
November 20 2010 17:32 GMT
#821
An aside, so Foxer legitamately has ID changed to MarineKing? I guess I can call him MK.
the farm ends here
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
November 20 2010 18:31 GMT
#822
is there any way to check how long until the next match? thanks.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 20 2010 18:34 GMT
#823
On November 21 2010 03:31 Ricemagical wrote:
is there any way to check how long until the next match? thanks.

Use the calendar. Eight hours.
High five :---)
DeseaseR
Profile Joined October 2010
46 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 18:38:38
November 20 2010 18:36 GMT
#824
On November 20 2010 23:46 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 23:39 DeseaseR wrote:
anyone with the results? and a short description of the game please!

Results spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
FD 1-2 FoxeR
Genius 1-2 Tester
Maka 1-2 TheWind
BoxeR 0-2 Kyrix


Thanks!!!
+ Show Spoiler +
Boxer lost nice to see FoxeR advancing at least
Lurking Since 2007
Moragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States355 Posts
November 20 2010 18:47 GMT
#825
On November 21 2010 02:00 AyJay wrote:
Either players have to revolutionize PvP or we have to wait for an expansion to fix this match-up

1base colossus 4 warpgate vs 1base colossus 4 warpgate is fun to watch


I found it very suspicious that they went the same build as each other in every game. Game 1 both 4 gate, game 2 both fast colossi, game 3 both blink stalker. It's like they talked about it before hand and decided not to use their newer or more creative builds, at least I hope.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
November 20 2010 19:03 GMT
#826
On November 21 2010 00:31 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
You can't block a ramp with 2 DTs vs blink stalkers.

Even if you could Genius had plenty of time to get a stalker into the main with one of the DTs attacking his base. He had 2 stalkers in Testers base for a long time too.

And here's the second part

He doesn't know how many DTs Tester has

So scout the map with 1 Stalker?
He knows it's a low number. He was in Testers base and there was only 1 attacking him. And he can see there's only 1 DT attacking his own base. So if Tester has more then he's hiding them (which would be unlikely).
Leave 6 stalkers initally blocking the cannon while 1 scouts the map and kills buildings.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 19:06:01
November 20 2010 19:05 GMT
#827
OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
November 20 2010 19:18 GMT
#828
Hmm it looks like Nestea may be the more solid zerg than Fruitdealer. Cool kept trying his fast 3rd with no lair or any tech way into mid-game and dying. He skimped too much on defenses vs the aggressive Foxer again.

What I don't get is why zergs don't just pull a Kwanro whenever they scout Foxer doing his 2rax marine rush. They keep throwing low amounts of slow-lings into Foxer's marine micro. It's probably better to get gas, make a bunch of speedlings and Kwanroll Foxer while he's retreating to set up his CC.

Tester vs Genius was pretty close. I can see why Genius regards him highly even though he failed to qualify twice. I lol'ed at how the two absolute top Protosses went 4gate vs each other in the first game.

Kyrix is apparently on his way to becoming a monster. First he perfects lings/banelings, now he's moving on to roaches, and so on... Love this guy.
Marines > everything
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
November 20 2010 19:19 GMT
#829
Genius deserved the third game more than Tester.
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
November 20 2010 19:46 GMT
#830
On November 21 2010 03:47 Moragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 02:00 AyJay wrote:
Either players have to revolutionize PvP or we have to wait for an expansion to fix this match-up

1base colossus 4 warpgate vs 1base colossus 4 warpgate is fun to watch


I found it very suspicious that they went the same build as each other in every game. Game 1 both 4 gate, game 2 both fast colossi, game 3 both blink stalker. It's like they talked about it before hand and decided not to use their newer or more creative builds, at least I hope.


do you not realize protoss doesn't have many viable builds? they both probably decided which builds would be strongest for each map, and both being skilled protoss players came up with similar builds.
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
November 20 2010 19:51 GMT
#831
On November 21 2010 04:05 entlassen wrote:
OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post.


Agreed, terrible OP. Take a look at Kevinace's thread, or even take a page from MotBob's GSL 3 Qualifiers. The OP should be updated after every game/set.
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 20:43:33
November 20 2010 20:36 GMT
#832
I honestly think Boxer could have won against Kyrix if he had better decision making.

There was a huge timing with the hellion after he fended off the baneling bust. He hesitated for a full half a minute before doing anything. If he was worried that Kyrix may be hiding another baneling group, he should have split his 9 hellions, send 2 to scout the surrounding and 6 to harass. If he was worried about a roach switch, he should have switched to marauder right after pumping 9 hellions out. If he had two bunkers worth of marauders at his nat and teched to banshee faster, he wouldn't have lost like that.

In the second game, Kyrix made the big mistake of having only two queens, one in each base, and not react after seeing the banshees. That was an auto loss right there. Foxer won against Kyrix with the exact same build, there was no excuse for Boxer to have harassed so ineffectively, killing almost no drones and only queens and losing his first two banshees due to poor micro. He had 4 bunkers to defend against that roach push, he didn't need to park 2 banshees at his choke for a full minute. Even if he felt the need to do so, why not just use one banshee to ATTACK that roach army instead? And send the other banshee to harass the main. Wasn't the point of those two barracks and 4 bunkers delaying the roach army till the banshees have essentially killed all the drones and spire? After that, doesn't matter what the Roaches are killing. Boxer can just lift the buildings and kill all the roaches with the banshees.

God, for the first time in my life, I must say that I am disappointed with Boxer. He did incorporate some boxer-esque play with the building placements, the sexy dropship usages. But everything that he did seemed to have missed some sort of timing window. He was always 15 seconds late on everything.

I blame Boxer's poor performance on his lack of a team. He is basically training off only laddering.
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
November 20 2010 22:40 GMT
#833
On November 21 2010 04:51 nikj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 04:05 entlassen wrote:
OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post.


Agreed, terrible OP. Take a look at Kevinace's thread, or even take a page from MotBob's GSL 3 Qualifiers. The OP should be updated after every game/set.


Need to add a rule that only people with a certain amount of post #'s can create threads for third-party tournaments.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 22:55:12
November 20 2010 22:53 GMT
#834
I think the Genius vs Tester match just goes to show how ridiculously even these two are.
I am a Tester fan myself but play more to Genius' style of somewhat safe somewhat boring.
Genius and MC both knew that Tester was the only competition in terms of naming the top Protoss in the world even though he did not qualify twice. Man I don't understand how people can say he's garbage (close enough), he didn't even qualify twice in a row. By the results he's shown in this tournament he's STILL a RO 8 GSL player, his skill hasn't diminished, he's just been incredibly unlucky. If this tournament has told us anything it's that TesteR deserves to be in the GSL as he's beating really solid opposition CONVINCINGLY. I Just hope that TesteR can sit down and actually focus on the holes in his build, though it is demotivating when Protoss is somewhat underpowered at the moment but that shouldn't stop him from outplaying his opponents. I think he should revert to a more safe playstyle because he is mechanically as good as anyone but chooses to go off into these super risky builds which is why he probably never qualified this GSL.
Ahhh TesteR, when your at your best, I can't see you losing to anyone. But it's so rare people actually think you're overrated. Damn, I sure as heck hope you win this thing man. Protoss and more importantly YOU need this. Good Luck.
hi. big fan.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 20 2010 23:52 GMT
#835
On November 21 2010 00:49 skAnarky wrote:
Has anyone posted this?

http://ch.gomtv.com/414

http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2010/11/#event_3049
:p
MrMoist
Profile Joined August 2010
United States72 Posts
November 21 2010 00:56 GMT
#836
wait what? i thought real boxer is no longer a pro gamer

http://www.thisisgame.com/go/?p=2486
A bank is where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain.
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
November 21 2010 00:58 GMT
#837
On November 21 2010 09:56 FarJeylZmun wrote:
wait what? i thought real boxer is no longer a pro gamer

http://www.thisisgame.com/go/?p=2486

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165923

He is in SC2 now.
An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom!
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
November 21 2010 01:05 GMT
#838
BoxeR is overrated. Again, he's RO32 material, doesn't have the APM/multitasking ability to do what he wants.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 01:16:49
November 21 2010 01:14 GMT
#839
On November 21 2010 04:51 nikj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 04:05 entlassen wrote:
OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post.


Agreed, terrible OP. Take a look at Kevinace's thread, or even take a page from MotBob's GSL 3 Qualifiers. The OP should be updated after every game/set.



You realize the point of a thread is to discuss, not to live update you on everything you're too lazy to look up for yourself?

And also, that if the OP hadn't made this thread, literally hundreds of people wouldn't have been able to watch these games.

Quit being assholes.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 01:29:30
November 21 2010 01:25 GMT
#840
On November 21 2010 10:14 Uncultured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2010 04:51 nikj wrote:
On November 21 2010 04:05 entlassen wrote:
OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post.


Agreed, terrible OP. Take a look at Kevinace's thread, or even take a page from MotBob's GSL 3 Qualifiers. The OP should be updated after every game/set.



You realize the point of a thread is to discuss, not to live update you on everything you're too lazy to look up for yourself?

And also, that if the OP hadn't made this thread, literally hundreds of people wouldn't have been able to watch these games.

Quit being assholes.



The point of tournament threads is not only to provide a place for live discussion, but to record results for posterity. The next day, the next week, or even a year from now when somebody wants to find out the results of these matches, this thread will come up first on the list, and its OP should give them everything they need so they have to slog through often 50-200+ pages of crap. This is the hallmark of a good OP, and most TL tournament threads are like this.

If this particular OP hadn't made his post, one of thousands of others in the community would have. There is a tradition on TL where the first thread about a tourney becomes the official discussion thread, but the expectation is that the OP's job is to then make quality updates. The fact of the matter is this OP sniped the creation of this thread hours before the event started but clearly had no intention to update it. The only explanation is that he just wants to seek attention for himself to be "the guy who made the thread." If he's not going to do a proper update, then he should leave it to one of many other willing fans in the community.
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