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The page hasn't been updated yet so I figured I would post them here.
Marineking(FoxeR) vs Fruitdealer
Genius vs Tester
Maka vs Thewind
Boxer vs Kyrix
Should be some awesome matches.
Now we need to find a stream.
here are the brackets
http://ch.gomtv.com/view.gom?ch=414&intpid=23523&intbid=394280&type=2
http://ch.gomtv.com/view.gom?ch=414&intpid=23523&intbid=394031&type=2
This might work for a stream.
On November 20 2010 08:58 Mioraka wrote:http://ppstream.uptodown.com/en/download this, install it. If that one doesn't work, download from here http://dl.pps.tv/ Open 2.plu.cn You need to use IE to open that site, not google chrome or anything else, only IE works Click PPStream, then a video player will load in the middle of the page. They have other sc2 programs before the actually game, so use it for testing.
On November 20 2010 09:45 Crt wrote:
1. Download and install ppstream
2. On the left, click the 6th item bottom up, start with "OII.EA1/2c" ==> Stand for Games
3. Then under "OII.EA1/2c", go to all the way down to "PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ" ==> Stand for PLU Starcraft 2 Stream
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The other two games should be Maka vs Thewind and Boxer vs Kyrix
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I'm going for Genius and MarineKing.
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On November 20 2010 07:48 adrift wrote:
The other two games should be Maka vs Thewind and Boxer vs Kyrix
Thanks I completely forgot about those, hah. I was used to them splitting it up.
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I thought it was free all you needed was to sign up.
Am i wrong?
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Would be awesome if Kevin did it again, but I think he said he wasn't doing it anymore for G-star.
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=( the two protoss are playing against each other
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On November 20 2010 07:49 Raiden X wrote:
I thought it was free all you needed was to sign up.
Am i wrong?
It's only available in korea. They're locking out non-korean IP's.
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The Little BoxeR vs. anyone is so amazing. Please stream.
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On November 20 2010 07:54 cablesc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 07:49 Raiden X wrote:
I thought it was free all you needed was to sign up.
Am i wrong? It's only available in korea. They're locking out non-korean IP's.
Whaat? Lame. Do they allow restreams?
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does TL have a post about proxy viewing korean stream?
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KevinAce said he won't be streaming any more of the games so unfortunately we won't be able to enjoy him constantly noodling with the codec settings and prattling on about nothing anymore. 
I'm most interested in the first match, for what are probably obvious reasons. But I'll be watching them all for sure if that ends up being possible.
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If Genius was able to beat IncA and WhiteRa's PvP he should handle Tester with ease.
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I don't know about that... Tester is godly.
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These matches should be insane.
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how sad is tester and genius played each other already 
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I want to see Tester beat Genius. I'll get to see Genius play in the GSL but not Tester so I want to see Tester take it home. Sad they have to play against each other though
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I really hope we can find somebody who can restream. If not, we're doomed!
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Can someone please restream and post the links to the vods later? I'm going to be working at the time so woudl hate to miss these!
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Someone please stream this, you would be a hero.
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Are both the FD/FoxeR and Tester/Genius games tonight?
Also, I hate the fact that we are going to lose one of the two best protoss in the world in a PvP between each other.
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When will first games begin?
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On November 20 2010 07:57 Moragon wrote:
If Genius was able to beat IncA and WhiteRa's PvP he should handle Tester with ease.
Have you checked White-ra's PvP record? It's pretty bad.
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Tester gonna smaaaaaaaaaaaaash
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On November 20 2010 08:16 Scoop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 07:57 Moragon wrote:
If Genius was able to beat IncA and WhiteRa's PvP he should handle Tester with ease. Have you checked White-ra's PvP record? It's pretty bad.
I havent, where are you checking his matchup specific stats?
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Guys, the stream is available from ppstream.com, but I don't know how to read chinese. Can anyone translate for us and post up how we can watch the coverage? I believe downloading the player is required.
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stream will likely be available on 2.plu.cn
a chinese person will be commentating over the koreans
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On November 20 2010 08:29 Moragon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 08:16 Scoop wrote:On November 20 2010 07:57 Moragon wrote:
If Genius was able to beat IncA and WhiteRa's PvP he should handle Tester with ease. Have you checked White-ra's PvP record? It's pretty bad. I havent, where are you checking his matchup specific stats?
On liquidpedia
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1148
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On November 20 2010 08:33 udgnim wrote:
stream will likely be available on 2.plu.cn
a chinese person will be commentating over the koreans
That is where I got my information from, but I was unable to get the embedded video to work, it redirected me to a link where I was forced to download the player. What do you use to play the video?
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On November 20 2010 08:30 Cel.erity wrote:
Guys, the stream is available from ppstream.com, but I don't know how to read chinese. Can anyone translate for us and post up how we can watch the coverage? I believe downloading the player is required.
Really?
I'm installing the damn thing now. lol
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If it's easy to get a Chinese stream then it should be easy to restream a Chinese stream.
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Guys, can anybody update the OP with start times of those matches. I don't want to miss any action today!
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On November 20 2010 08:44 Xxavi wrote:
Guys, can anybody update the OP with start times of those matches. I don't want to miss any action today!
it's on the right side ...
it start in 3 hours ...
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On November 20 2010 08:44 Xxavi wrote:
Guys, can anybody update the OP with start times of those matches. I don't want to miss any action today!
Marineking vs Fruitdealer: 6:30 PM PST
Genius vs Tester: 7:30 PM PST
Maka vs TheWind: 11:00 PM PST
Boxer vs Kyrix: Midnight PST
On another note, I may die if I don't see these matches, someone please restream... 
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On November 20 2010 08:36 Brad` wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 08:29 Moragon wrote:On November 20 2010 08:16 Scoop wrote:On November 20 2010 07:57 Moragon wrote:
If Genius was able to beat IncA and WhiteRa's PvP he should handle Tester with ease. Have you checked White-ra's PvP record? It's pretty bad. I havent, where are you checking his matchup specific stats? On liquidpedia http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1148
Heh, most of those losses are to Genius, but yeah.
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On November 20 2010 08:37 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 08:33 udgnim wrote:
stream will likely be available on 2.plu.cn
a chinese person will be commentating over the koreans That is where I got my information from, but I was unable to get the embedded video to work, it redirected me to a link where I was forced to download the player. What do you use to play the video?
Ok, I'm not entirely sure because it just automatically worked for me, but try this:
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http://ppstream.uptodown.com/en/
download this, install it. If that one doesn't work, download from here http://dl.pps.tv/ (It's Chinese so let's just hope the other one works)
Open 2.plu.cn
You need to use IE to open that site, not google chrome or anything else, only IE works
Click PPStream, then a video player will load in the middle of the page. They have other sc2 programs before the actually game, so use it for testing.
Someone try it, i think it would work that way, but I'm not sure.
The stream quality is fine, i had a lil lag but it didn't affect the game. There will be a Chinese caster, you probably wont understand him but he's the Chinese equivalent of Day9, so don't be mean to him :D
If it doesn't work, come back to this page and post what went wrong, and I'll see if I can figure it out.
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Would be awesome to get a stream working...I'm having moneyz on the line here, around $10 on Kyrix against SlayerSBoxer...odds are 2.1 v 1.65
The game seems to start 9 am here in Sweden though so I'd better get to bed if I'm gonna be able to get up in time...see you all at breakfast!
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Did you really need to spoiler the games? Didn't the previous round JUST happen the other night? T_T.
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On November 20 2010 08:58 Mioraka wrote:
stream will likely be available on 2.plu.cn
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awesome, thank you, it's working now.
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On November 20 2010 08:33 udgnim wrote:
stream will likely be available on 2.plu.cn
a chinese person will be commentating over the koreans
On the stream it says ro16 will be streamed, not sure if it's an error.
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I'm looking forward to Tester vs Genius the most. These guys are just so solid, I don't care what Tyler and Day9 say,
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is marineking foxer?
and is the boxer slayersboxer or foxer?
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On November 20 2010 09:20 beat farm wrote:
is marineking foxer?
and is the boxer slayersboxer or foxer?
marineking is foxer
boxer is slayersboxer
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more epic popular tournaments like these should be hosted, im suck of waiting like 3 weeks just to see a few games of 4 pros =(
anyways hoping for great games!
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On November 20 2010 09:21 Truefire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 09:20 beat farm wrote:
is marineking foxer?
and is the boxer slayersboxer or foxer? marineking is foxer boxer is slayersboxer
thanks. thats what i thought but wasent 100% sure.
now we need to pray to god that he blesses us with a restream.
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Hoping genius vs tester is a good series to learn some PvP from.
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On November 20 2010 09:14 AndAgain wrote:
These guys are just so solid, I don't care what Tyler and Day9 say,
What were their comments exactly? Did i miss something on state of the game?
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On November 20 2010 09:02 FabledIntegral wrote:
Did you really need to spoiler the games? Didn't the previous round JUST happen the other night? T_T.
Uh, I think you meant to say the opposite of what you said here. But yeah, the title of this thread has spoilers in it. Why are there so many threads with spoilers in the title recently?
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How do I edit the title, do I have to contact an admin?
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On November 20 2010 09:30 McDonalds wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 09:02 FabledIntegral wrote:
Did you really need to spoiler the games? Didn't the previous round JUST happen the other night? T_T. Uh, I think you meant to say the opposite of what you said here. But yeah, the title of this thread has spoilers in it. Why are there so many threads with spoilers in the title recently?
I spoiler, spoil, same thing. Point is I saw the results in the sidebar, which is ridiculous! People don't think before making topics.
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On November 20 2010 09:34 Beardedclam wrote:
How do I edit the title, do I have to contact an admin?
I think an admin has to do it, yeah.
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On November 20 2010 09:29 Ftrunkz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 09:14 AndAgain wrote:
These guys are just so solid, I don't care what Tyler and Day9 say, What were their comments exactly? Did i miss something on state of the game?
Tyler criticized Tester's play against NaDa (on the forums), saying it was too fragile and that he could've done the same thing with less risk. Day9 has been ripping the protoss FE straight into colossi strategy, which is what Genius likes to do (and popularized.)
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I'd stream if I could but I have friends coming over to visit and I have to go pick them up from the airport today & tomorrow...so I just won't be around to take care of this. There are PLENTY of other people on this forum living in RoK. All it takes is them launching it and using ProCaster (and someone's 'verified' account if they personally don't have one). Good luck on seeing the matches. Hopefully someone steps up for you guys.
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Thanks for the update and the streams of the other matches, Kevin.
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On November 20 2010 09:39 KevinAce wrote:
I'd stream if I could but I have friends coming over to visit and I have to go pick them up from the airport today & tomorrow...so I just won't be around to take care of this. There are PLENTY of other people on this forum living in RoK. All it takes is them launching it and using ProCaster (and someone's 'verified' account if they personally don't have one). Good luck on seeing the matches. Hopefully someone steps up for you guys.
On the subject of this, I have a channel someone could use if they don't already have one verified.
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On November 20 2010 09:39 KevinAce wrote:
I'd stream if I could but I have friends coming over to visit and I have to go pick them up from the airport today & tomorrow...so I just won't be around to take care of this. There are PLENTY of other people on this forum living in RoK. All it takes is them launching it and using ProCaster (and someone's 'verified' account if they personally don't have one). Good luck on seeing the matches. Hopefully someone steps up for you guys.
Dangit I hope someboby restreams.
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Ok
1. Download and install ppstream
2. On the left, click the 6th item bottom up, start with "OII.EA1/2c" ==> Stand for Games
3. Then under "OII.EA1/2c", go to all the way down to "PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ" ==> Stand for PLU Game Entertainment and Media
Voila, that's the stream you want to watch.
:-)
Edit: With this, you can probably watch every GSL to come. Not sure if it works though. Let me know.
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On November 20 2010 09:45 Crt wrote:
Ok
1. Download and install ppstream
2. On the left, click the 6th item bottom up, start with "OII.EA1/2c"
3. Then under "OII.EA1/2c", go to all the way down to "PLU-DC1/4EOuOxUIIoIAEuuA"
Voila, that's the stream you want to watch.
:-)
kind of random, but is this the crt that plays wow on mal'ganis?
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On November 20 2010 09:14 AndAgain wrote:
I'm looking forward to Tester vs Genius the most. These guys are just so solid, I don't care what Tyler and Day9 say,
Eh I don't think Tyler or Day were saying that the players themselves were bad or anything, obviously they're both great players. I think what they're trying to get at is their builds are unnecessarily greedy and risky, and therefore it isn't surprising that they can be "upset" in a Bo3 qualifier.
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On November 20 2010 09:45 Crt wrote:
Ok
1. Download and install ppstream
2. On the left, click the 6th item bottom up, start with "OII.EA1/2c" ==> Stand for Games
3. Then under "OII.EA1/2c", go to all the way down to "PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ" ==> Stand for PLU Game Entertainment and Media
Voila, that's the stream you want to watch.
:-)
Edit: With this, you can probably watch every GSL to come. Not sure if it works though. Let me know.
So i downloaded this and currently am seeing a socke vs mardow game, not sure if it will switch to the allstar ro8. If it does switch, I will gladly restream for those that are having trouble.
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Ok, from what I am hearing, these games are just being shown before the allstar matches, here is my stream link for those that can't get it working using the two above methods.
http://www.livestream.com/trunxs
Edit: I don't have a verified channel so if the person that mentioned earlier that they would be able to lend it, i will need it to restream.
Edit2: games will be streamed on this channel
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On November 20 2010 09:48 Aquafresh wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 09:14 AndAgain wrote:
I'm looking forward to Tester vs Genius the most. These guys are just so solid, I don't care what Tyler and Day9 say, Eh I don't think Tyler or Day were saying that the players themselves were bad or anything, obviously they're both great players. I think what they're trying to get at is their builds are unnecessarily greedy and risky, and therefore it isn't surprising that they can be "upset" in a Bo3 qualifier.
The last time Genius was "upset" in a bo3 was DAVIT release patch proxy reaper nonsense.
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Ok, i got a new channel
http://www.livestream.com/trunxs
edit: my stream's video isn't working so i'm having my friend try, will update soon if i have a solution
2nd edit: fixed, will be streaming on this channel
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How long until this starts?
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On November 20 2010 10:21 Pekkz wrote:You gonna stream it ?
yes, currently they have other games going on but the all star games should start in about an hour and 10 mins
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awww. only 2 P and they have to play each other
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will tester game be soon or one of the latter ones ? if you know what i mean.
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Foxer vs Fruitdealer in in about an hour.
Following Genius vs Tester
TheWind vs Maka
Kyrix vs SlayerSBoxer
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On November 20 2010 10:25 Truefire wrote:yes, currently they have other games going on but the all star games should start in about an hour and 10 mins
you da man.
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On November 20 2010 07:54 cablesc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 07:49 Raiden X wrote:
I thought it was free all you needed was to sign up.
Am i wrong? It's only available in korea. They're locking out non-korean IP's.
Why? I never get this, why not World Wide? No need to give us English commentators, some of us may decide to buy the HQ stream.
While on topic, does anyone know how many foreigners paid for GSL HQ stream?
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This is totally Plants vs Zombies. On starcraft 2 though.... Looks pretty damn fun.
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Can't wait for the games to start ! GO FOXER !
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15 minutes or something like that?
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I kind of want to bet on the games. What sites are you guys betting on?
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Yeah, if anyone wants to be entertained for the next 15 minutes, feel free to watch that. But the games will be streamed at http://www.livestream.com/trunxs tonight. Just making sure everyone understands.
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On November 20 2010 11:17 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
I kind of want to bet on the games. What sites are you guys betting on?
You can bet on xlbet but i can give you no guarantee that site is actually reliable.
I've made a small deposit so we'll see after if i can actually make a profit and clear the bonus
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what's wrong with that stream, offline??
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Korean pop yay!
Marshmellow!
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How to watch SC2 and GSL all seasons
In case there's no restream, to watch original stream:
1. Download and install PPStream from ppstream.com
2. On the left, click the 6th item bottom up, start with "OII.EA1/2c" ==> Stand for Games
3. Then under "OII.EA1/2c", go to all the way down to "PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ" ==> Stand for PLU Game Entertainment and Media
Enjoy
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aw no female caster today?
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On November 20 2010 11:32 mtvacuum wrote:
aw no female caster today?
yeah, sad face :/
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On November 20 2010 11:31 Crt wrote:
How to watch SC2 and GSL all seasons
In case there's no restream, to watch original stream:
1. Download and install PPStream from ppstream.com
2. On the left, click the 6th item bottom up, start with "OII.EA1/2c" ==> Stand for Games
3. Then under "OII.EA1/2c", go to all the way down to "PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ" ==> Stand for PLU Game Entertainment and Media
Enjoy
Follow these steps and it will work. Watching right now!!!!
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Are you ready to go are you ready to go are you ready to go are you ready to go go go go go go
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might be a dumb question, and i dont know where to ask it... but wtf does
"kero sa me da" mean they must say it like 10x a game.. and yes i know my spelling is probably way off or w/e
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Why do they keep playing LT in TvZ?
At least it's cross this time..
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Fruitdealer vs. MarineKing Gm1 on Lost Temple cross positions
Fruitdealer spawns at the 12 o'clock and MarineKing spawns at 6 o'clock
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On November 20 2010 11:39 lim1017 wrote:
might be a dumb question, and i dont know where to ask it... but wtf does
"kero sa me da" mean they must say it like 10x a game.. and yes i know my spelling is probably way off or w/e
im not korean but i think its basically just acknowledging what the other person just said, like "ok"
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I've got $100 down that foxer thor drops.....for the 4th time in a row >_______>
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What will be the 2nd game of today?
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MarineKing aka Foxer goes for double gas early, looks to probably be going for a thor drop.
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that's not foxer, wtf is this?!
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dammit...where are the sweet sweet sounds, screams and sighs of spring24
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WTF FoxeR built a factory?!?~
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im streaming on livestream.com/spades if anyone needs it
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2 banshees into thor drop?
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Really cant find PLU-ÐǼ... on that program
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Double starport, feels good for FD. It was the early rine pressure he had problems with in GSL2, not banshee play.
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On November 20 2010 11:39 lim1017 wrote:
might be a dumb question, and i dont know where to ask it... but wtf does
"kero sa me da" mean they must say it like 10x a game.. and yes i know my spelling is probably way off or w/e
me da = nida which is like a way of talking, showing respect to elders etc... from what i understand.
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Fruitdealer's spire going up, one banshee on the way more building
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On November 20 2010 11:43 Daray wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 11:39 lim1017 wrote:
might be a dumb question, and i dont know where to ask it... but wtf does
"kero sa me da" mean they must say it like 10x a game.. and yes i know my spelling is probably way off or w/e me da = nida which is like a way of talking, showing respect to elders, being polite etc... from what i understand.
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Lol boxer fail with banshee + repair, didn't focus fire well enough
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Fruitdealer easily defends banshees being repaired by scvs with his queens
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factory doesnt produce marines
im confused
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mass banshee = fail, knew fd was going to rush for spire.
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enable the chat, it doesn't cause lag.
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FD shuts down the banshee play completely only losing a queen. 2 base to 1 base. Big advantage for FD. Spire up, mutas causing havok.
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Bye Foxer. Your cheese failed.
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They're using the Razer SC2 set. Do you think they were forced to? :D
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Mutalisks now wreaking havoc in Boxer's base, this looks to be all but over
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No, FoxeR's strategy was really clever, and probably would've caught many a player off guard.
This wasn't FoxeR being that bad, it was FruitDealer being that good.
GG. Fruit Dealer so gooooooooooodd
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.. not a really good build :S! I want to see him use the strategy Artosis talked about.
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completely owned that match by fruit
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Fruitdealer's revenge!
tbh, the 2port banshee repair was a decent build idea.
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Interesting strat by Foxer, but doesnt work against FD!
Stick to making marines, foxer
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I am rooting for Foxer, but that was pathetic. You know he is so far away, why don't you just expand man. Fucking cheesy gimmicky build.
I hate these Banshees. Really, banshees are easy win bullshit. In this case, easy lose, because Foxer went for it despite the fact.
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Great play by FD totally deflected
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Nope foxer does his standard double port banshee rush
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time for Foxer to do a marine push
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Not horrible, just "all in"
And it failed, so he lost. PRetty standard game of SC2 if you ask me.
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Bad bo? Or good counter bo? I dont understand TvZ so dont flame me ^^
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Does anyone know the score between them now? I just tuned in to watch TinyBoxer loose a game..
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Cross positions metal 12 6
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Haven't really seen FoXeR win on Lost Temple.
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FD at 6oclock and Foxer at 12oclock
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Gm2 Metalopolis cross positions again
Boxer in the 12 o'clock this time and Fruitdealer in the 6 o'clock
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What bugs me is that he tries cheese in such a big map so far apart. In the first game of the set. I could understand if he was 1 up.
Foxer, get your act together!
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So much hate on Foxer, it was a really smart build. Normally, against thor drop, FD goes roach drops, not mutas. He wanted FD to think he was going thors then destroy FD with banshees, which is why he got a tech lab on his factory without building anyhting from it. It was a smart build but FD played differently than he normally did and Foxer got Crushed.
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anyone have a different stream with korean version... the stream I am on started dubbing in chinese
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Is that typical Foxer Marine-Rush or that unstoppable (as in really hard to stop) Artosis style rush... we'll see.
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On November 20 2010 11:48 SoL[9] wrote:
Bad bo? Or good counter bo? I dont understand TvZ so dont flame me ^^
BO was interesting.
Put tech lab on factory to feign Thor drop. Went double starport banshees (no cloak), and medvac to drop SCV's for repair. FD dropped Spire, made 4 queens, and used perfection transfusion to only lose 1 queen.
Then counter pushed, and used Overseer to stop production of starport for Vikings.
Great hold by FD
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Fruitdealer goes hatch first, Boxer going for 2 rax orbital
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and 2 rax UNfrigginBEATABLE build coming up
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Foxer going 2 rax Expo into 4 rax.
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On November 20 2010 11:50 Severus_ wrote:and 2 rax UNfrigginBEATABLE build coming up
Nope, that involves a proxy and some scvs.
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2 rax tech labs and 2 rax reactored, FD takes 3rd with banes coming in/
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Nope, just as Artosis said, the Terran can start to force you to commit to ground, and drop a fast expo.
FD scouts and drops a fast 3rd.
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wahhh, 3 hatch asap. FD is insane.
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On November 20 2010 11:50 Durp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 11:48 SoL[9] wrote:
Bad bo? Or good counter bo? I dont understand TvZ so dont flame me ^^ BO was interesting. Put tech lab on factory to feign Thor drop. Went double starport banshees (no cloak), and medvac to drop SCV's for repair. FD dropped Spire, made 4 queens, and used perfection transfusion to only lose 1 queen. Then counter pushed, and used Overseer to stop production of starport for Vikings. Great hold by FD
Ty good
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Lol at restream guy. 1200 viewers... is that real? WHAT?
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On November 20 2010 11:53 MisterFred wrote:
Lol at restream guy. 1200 viewers... is that real? WHAT?
That's what happens when korea blocks everyone else out for no reason :/
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Foxer breaks into natural hatch, it goes down.
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bad idea to restream off this guy imo. well esp for me because I can understand korean... is there any restreamers without the dubbed cast?
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Sheesh these games are one sided
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FoxeR has evolved, he has learned to make MARAUDERS, OH GOD.
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Fruitdealer really needed that lair up earlier to get speed on those banelings.
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Slow banelings are absolutely useless against Foxer
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He accidentally made Marauders, but that worked to his advantage.
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wonder if they've been told to extend games, there's been some really bad GG timings in this tournament
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WOOOOOW!
FoxeR attacks with marines and marauders. Engages on creep, but no bling speed, perfectly micro's the marines behind the marauders. FD tries to reposition but FoxeR re adjusts and loses no marines. Runs in and snipes the spawning pool!
FD extends, finally GGs.
FoxeR > Slow Banelings
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No sunkens or baneling speed or roaches
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Nice second set by Foxer.
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Has fruitdealer heard of typing gg?
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Now, this is Foxer I love. Go Foxer!
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This is what foxer did in GSL2 RO32 game 2 against FD, glad he went back to it.
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How to get rid of the chinese guy????
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On November 20 2010 11:58 bjdj wrote:
How to get rid of the chinese guy????
Turn your sound off?
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Top 2 positions spawn on Shak.
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Fruit's timing was completely off that game. He had Banelings outside Foxer's base at the perfect time right before all the Tech Lab upgrades finished, but then decided to pull back. And his Baneling control in the deciding battle was uncharacteristically poor...
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On November 20 2010 11:58 Durp wrote:Turn your sound off?
Yeah =) But I want the gamesound + koreans
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FoxeR should stick to his marine and maurauder play
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On November 20 2010 11:59 FuRong wrote:
Fruit's timing was completely off that game. He had Banelings outside Foxer's base at the perfect time right before all the Tech Lab upgrades finished, but then decided to pull back. And his Baneling control in the deciding battle was uncharacteristically poor...
Wasn't anything wrong with his baneling control. He knew he could never hit the marines with them so he decided to just hit the marauders instead of letting them die w/o doing anything.
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On November 20 2010 11:59 bjdj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 11:58 Durp wrote:On November 20 2010 11:58 bjdj wrote:
How to get rid of the chinese guy???? Turn your sound off? Yeah =) But I want the gamesound + koreans
Well sir, you're f*cked then =(
I agree though, it's hard to watch with that going non-stop in the backround. I do love listening for the occasional ALLINDEHKUH and a BANERING and such though
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Foxer learning to produce other Terran units one series at a time?
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On November 20 2010 11:59 FuRong wrote:
Fruit's timing was completely off that game. He had Banelings outside Foxer's base at the perfect time right before all the Tech Lab upgrades finished, but then decided to pull back. And his Baneling control in the deciding battle was uncharacteristically poor...
Foxer already had several marauders out and could have seen that attack off pretty handily in my opinion.
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Foxer, forget banshees, stick to marines!!!
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On November 20 2010 11:59 FuRong wrote:
Fruit's timing was completely off that game. He had Banelings outside Foxer's base at the perfect time right before all the Tech Lab upgrades finished, but then decided to pull back. And his Baneling control in the deciding battle was uncharacteristically poor...
Yes but he correctly backed off as he would be attacking an army bigger than he could handle.
FD tried to regroup and get more stuff but couldnt in time.
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On November 20 2010 11:59 bjdj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 11:58 Durp wrote:On November 20 2010 11:58 bjdj wrote:
How to get rid of the chinese guy???? Turn your sound off? Yeah =) But I want the gamesound + koreans
Then watch the Korean stream. OH WAIT YOU CAN'T. Thanks for restreaming the Chinese stream Trunxs, saves us from having to install ppstreamer. <3
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On November 20 2010 11:59 FuRong wrote:
Fruit's timing was completely off that game. He had Banelings outside Foxer's base at the perfect time right before all the Tech Lab upgrades finished, but then decided to pull back. And his Baneling control in the deciding battle was uncharacteristically poor...
He had no bling speed about to push into 4 rax and a bunker at the natural, he would've lost all his banes.
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Fruitdealer vs. Foxer Gm3 Shakuras Plateau
Foxer in the top left and Fruit in the top right
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Tester and NexGenius watching.
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On November 20 2010 11:59 FuRong wrote:
Fruit's timing was completely off that game. He had Banelings outside Foxer's base at the perfect time right before all the Tech Lab upgrades finished, but then decided to pull back. And his Baneling control in the deciding battle was uncharacteristically poor...
There's nothing he could've done with slow banelings. Especially vs Foxer
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FD Had to pull back during the attack, there was a wall of marauders by foxer blocking the marines.
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2 rax UNfrigginBEATABLE again
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On November 20 2010 12:00 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 11:59 FuRong wrote:
Fruit's timing was completely off that game. He had Banelings outside Foxer's base at the perfect time right before all the Tech Lab upgrades finished, but then decided to pull back. And his Baneling control in the deciding battle was uncharacteristically poor... Wasn't anything wrong with his baneling control. He knew he could never hit the marines with them so he decided to just hit the marauders instead of letting them die w/o doing anything.
he was moving his banelings back in forth really indecisively... instead of doing mininum damage they did no damage.
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Guys, may be it's just that FD was greedy. Going for 3rd without proper army to defend against marines, controlled by none other than MarineKing!
Insolence!
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FoxeR tries to pressure with early SCV marine. FD pulls 4 drones, and micro's to wait for 8 lings.
Foxer massing some marines, kills most of the zlings
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Can anybody tell me how to get rid of these ads on livestream?
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On November 20 2010 12:04 Xxavi wrote:
Can anybody tell me how to get rid of these ads on livestream?
There's a little X in the bottom right of the feed. Click the X
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Can someone upload ppstream to mediafire or something I can't download from anywhere in the OP. pm me if you do?
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FoxeR preparing to push with some marines/marauders. FD getting banelings and ling speed.
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lol 2nd season FoxeR builds only scv,marines 3rd season scv,marines,marauders 4th scv,marines,marauders,medivac? I bet 4th season of GSL no one will stop foxer
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HOLY EFFING SHIT BATMAN.
FD baits FoxeR up his ramp and runs his banelings into the marauders. Then brings a few hidden banelings from the back and kills the entire marine force.
FoxeR in retreat
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6 rax with starport, Foxer going for the destructable rocks.
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On November 20 2010 12:07 PartyBiscuit wrote:
6 rax with starport, Foxer going for the destructable rocks.
Which stream are you watching?
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FoxeR going for back door rocks. FD's Ovie spots it.
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FD barely holding his main
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arrgghhhg research burrroooooww fruitdeallerrrrrrrrrrr
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Korean obs is very good at rotating the camera, hopefully we'll see similar skills form Tasteless
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FoxeR does huge damage to mineral line. FD is trying to hold
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oh god, if I were FD I'd be breaking my keyboard in half around now
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If only FD had baneling speed
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Fruit Dealer only just started his Lair 12 min into the game :/ Why in the world would he wait so long for bling speed/infestors and the like.....
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foxer is such a monster ...
On November 20 2010 12:12 Tachion wrote:
Fruit Dealer only just started his Lair 12 min into the game :/ Why in the world would he wait so long for bling speed/infestors and the like.....
coz he puts so much pressure that fd has to spend all money in lings ?
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Foxer is going to be such a consistent player because he relies on such undeniably sound mechanics and fundamentals.
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Wow. WOW. Foxer. That was impressive. Next GSL Champion?
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FOOOXEEEEEER!
MARINEKING!
That was great. Foxer should forget banshees. He's great with marines.
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On November 20 2010 12:12 Tachion wrote:
Fruit Dealer only just started his Lair 12 min into the game :/ Why in the world would he wait so long for bling speed/infestors and the like.....
to get a 3rd hatch quicker...
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On November 20 2010 12:12 zzaaxxsscd wrote:oh god, if I were FD I'd be breaking my keyboard in half around now
You can tell he really didnt want to lose to foxer again
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GG.
FoxeR goes for marauders and medvacs. The StarCraft 2 scene explodes- and it seems here that FoxeR is actually unbeatable now.
FD thoroughly outplayed- not just outmicro'ed.
Baneling speed would've helped (and will be criticized often) doubtful there was ever time to do it.
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I missed the beginning. How did Foxer get into such a lead? Where are the speed banes?
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Yea, somehow Fruitdealer needed to mix baneling speed in there faster. He delayed lair for a super long time in both games for more economy and faster expos.
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Id like to see Foxer on a macro game to see how good his macro is. His micro is insane.
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Fruit Dealer needs to fix his strats against Foxer. If he techs Lair earlier for banneling speed, he would rape the army so hard.
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People are still gonna say Foxer/MarineKing/whatever is bad. He can win this GSL and the next and he'll still have more haters than any other player.
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how does he make bio work. I don't freaking get it
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GUYS! How do you watch these matches? Is there anyway I can watch? VODs?!?!
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Foxer is like my favorite Terran right now. So good.
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Will no one use an infestor vs this guy?
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I don't see why people would be "surprised", thats just being ignorant and disrespectful.
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On November 20 2010 12:14 dambros wrote:
Id like to see Foxer on a macro game to see how good his macro is. His micro is insane.
GSL finals game 2, sure he gets an early advantage but he produces units pretty much non-stop.
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If anyone has any other streams available WITHOUT CHINESE
please share~~~!!!
I'm sure his good if he's the day9 equivalent in china, but I don't understand chinese.
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Foxer will be the first Sc2 bonjwa you heard it here first! :D
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cuz you are already dead before infestor ?
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On November 20 2010 12:15 Cyanocyst wrote:
Will no one use an infestor vs this guy?
You don't make it to Infestors vs Foxer. 
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Game 3 was pretty much a repeat of Game 2 on different maps. Heavy marine marauder pressure from Foxer completely countering Fruitdealers speedlings and slowbanes. Fruitdealer seemed to get his lair way too late in both games, perhaps got a bit too greedy grabbing an early third, and simply just got out-microed by the MarineKing.
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Folks, it's not fluke. May be some thought it was fluke, including me, when Foxer beat FD first time. No, it's not fluke. Kyrix had more chance than FD.
FD is greedy. He probably thinks every terran will let him expand all over the place like Top did. No buddy, if you are greedy like that, then you die.
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In case there's no restream, to watch original stream:
1. Download and install PPStream from ppstream.com
2. On the left, click the 6th item bottom up, start with "OII.EA1/2c" ==> Stand for Games
3. Then under "OII.EA1/2c", go to all the way down to "PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ" ==> Stand for PLU Game Entertainment and Media
Enjoy
I don't see anything named PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ under the OII.EA1/2c channel list in ppstream .. am I missing something here ... all ic is like PLU DNF and .. PLU EUEU or something like that
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On November 20 2010 12:15 Cyanocyst wrote:
Will no one use an infestor vs this guy?
It would be really hard to get infestors with all the pressure FoxeR puts on you.
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On November 20 2010 12:15 Cyanocyst wrote:
Will no one use an infestor vs this guy?
Getting infestors would be really hard but he just needs to get baneling speed... can't win against foxer without it.
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only reason people dont like foxer is because none of the games he's in last more than 10 minutes, gets old after a while...
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On November 20 2010 12:13 Durp wrote:
GG.
FoxeR goes for marauders and medvacs. The StarCraft 2 scene explodes- and it seems here that FoxeR is actually unbeatable now.
FD thoroughly outplayed- not just outmicro'ed.
Baneling speed would've helped (and will be criticized often) doubtful there was ever time to do it.
Hardly unbeatable. All FD had to do was opt for a lair before his third and he would have what he needed.
It's probably that a fast 3rd works against most all terrans, but not Foxer.
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foxer dealing terrible, terrible damage to fruitdealer
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On November 20 2010 12:14 kNyTTyM wrote:
how does he make bio work. I don't freaking get it
He puts pressure early, trades small armies which is better in early game for Terran, since usually Zerg wants to saturate the expansion - but he can't. While Terran can and build an army. If you trade armies in late game its better for Zerg since he can replace his army faster when his bases are saturated, not even speaking about you losing a fight - you won't catch up again.
but yeah.. basically its the pressure and the army trading in the beginning, that forces Zerg to make nonstop units instead of what he wants - drones. /delaying his tech etc while you slowly 'creep' ahead in your advantage.
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On November 20 2010 12:15 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:14 dambros wrote:
Id like to see Foxer on a macro game to see how good his macro is. His micro is insane. GSL finals game 2, sure he gets an early advantage but he produces units pretty much non-stop.
The biggest problem is that FoxeR tries to apply constant pressure, and as soon as he sees his opening he attacks and never stops.
Each time when he pulled back to expand, FD dropped a third to stay ahead. FoxeR timed his pushes right as his second was starting to satuate- seemed to be exactly when FD droned up. That, with FoxeR's micro, AND MARAUDERS (Seriously, I thought he hated them?), seemed unbeatable.
It's not terran or zerg or protoss imba. It's FoxeR imba.
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On November 20 2010 12:15 Cyanocyst wrote:
Will no one use an infestor vs this guy?
Yeah, you're right, it's like Zenio, ZergBong, Kyrix, and FruitDealer (twice) just forgot about infestor tech when playing Foxer. They would have all instantly won if they just remembered.
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I wonder how Idra would manage against this MarineKing..
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On November 20 2010 12:16 Synk wrote:Show nested quote +In case there's no restream, to watch original stream:
1. Download and install PPStream from ppstream.com
2. On the left, click the 6th item bottom up, start with "OII.EA1/2c" ==> Stand for Games
3. Then under "OII.EA1/2c", go to all the way down to "PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ" ==> Stand for PLU Game Entertainment and Media
Enjoy I don't see anything named PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ under the OII.EA1/2c channel list in ppstream .. am I missing something here ... all ic is like PLU DNF and .. PLU EUEU or something like that
just go to website
http://2.plu.cn/
use internet explorer.
click ppsteam and install and add-ons and it should work... that's what I did anyways, better qual stream.
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On November 20 2010 12:15 Cyanocyst wrote:
Will no one use an infestor vs this guy?
He already said in the interview that people who tried infestors against him usually die because of his pressure.
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a couple burrowed banelings wouldve really changed things
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The first game was mostly a result of FruitDealer knowing what was coming, I think. He did a good job there. But the next two games showed how strong Foxer is when he's just going for it and not trying to win based on mind games. He just played straight up and his marines shucked and jived into FruitDealer's base.
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Yeah, I want to see him on a 25+ min match >/ Maybe we may see it against Tester if Tester goes through.
Tester is a beast defending, so who knows.
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can anyone restream the fruitdealer marineking games?
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lol 1.2k persons on trunx stream that was only announced on this thread
gom is losing chance to make money =x
On November 20 2010 12:18 MiNDtriX wrote:
can anyone restream the fruitdealer marineking games?
its over oredy
u can watch vods on sc2rep.com
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You realize if FoxeR uses drops or something or attacks at 2-3 fronts even flying infestedBattlecruiserUltraliskBanelingDropingMarauder won't stop him ?
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On November 20 2010 12:18 seaofsaturn wrote:
a couple burrowed banelings wouldve really changed things
he pretty much always scanned before moving in... ;-)
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Best terran player in the entire World for SC2, go MarineKing :D
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Jsa7N.jpg)
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On November 20 2010 12:13 seaofsaturn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:12 Tachion wrote:
Fruit Dealer only just started his Lair 12 min into the game :/ Why in the world would he wait so long for bling speed/infestors and the like..... to get a 3rd hatch quicker...
Fruit Dealer had 3 bases for quite awhile before he went lair. There's no way he couldn't have afforded it. It just......It makes no sense ;( FD was constantly on the defensive, and you can't stim kite speed banes on creep, and Foxer's strategy 90% relies on his marine micro.
I....I don't understand you FD
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On November 20 2010 12:19 Severus_ wrote:
You realize if FoxeR uses drops or something or attacks at 2-3 fronts even flying infestedBattlecruiserUltraliskBanelingDropingMarauder won't stop him ?
no , he relies on micro and you cant possibly micro 3 locations at the same time .
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On November 20 2010 12:17 Kimoto wrote:
I wonder how Idra would manage against this MarineKing..
Idra gives up quickly. Always. Sometimes it's embarrassing. Did you watch Nony-Idra matches?
I feel like Idra will see army of marines from Foxer and just type gg without even trying for a second.
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That series for FoxeR seemed like:
Game 1: I'm going to try a new build so people think I'm not a one-trick pony. Fruit Dealer scouts my build, and perfectly holds.
Game 2: Shit. Okay, going to my old strategy, except this time I'm going to use marauders to catch him off guard. My Micro wins.
Game 3: Same thing. Oh wait, he still didn't rush baneling speed? I win.
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You can tell Foxer has learned a lot from the GSL final against Nestea. He's using the same 2 rax build but he's not going all-in with it. He's just using it to pressure and force lots of Lings, then he backs off and expands to stay even on economy.
Attacking through the back entrance was also smart play in game 3, he was able to use the ramp really effectively to prevent Fruit from ever being able to get a surround. But I agree with whoever said that Fruit needed a much faster Lair, I think he got a bit too greedy in both games and it cost him in the end.
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On November 20 2010 12:16 Synk wrote:Show nested quote +In case there's no restream, to watch original stream:
1. Download and install PPStream from ppstream.com
2. On the left, click the 6th item bottom up, start with "OII.EA1/2c" ==> Stand for Games
3. Then under "OII.EA1/2c", go to all the way down to "PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ" ==> Stand for PLU Game Entertainment and Media
Enjoy I don't see anything named PLU-ÐǼÊÕù°Ô×ÛIIºÏƵµÀ under the OII.EA1/2c channel list in ppstream .. am I missing something here ... all ic is like PLU DNF and .. PLU EUEU or something like that
I searched for "PLU" (search is top left) and then I find it. Works fine! So thanks for the advice with PPStream.
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I want to see Tester-Foxer match. Marines would be useless vs Colossi, I wonder what Foxer will do. In fact, I can't remember his vP match as yet.
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I would love the option to at least pay for an English version of this. Heck, even the Korean commentators are better than quiet Korean with Chinese dubbed over.
Still, great play. Anyone who dislikes Foxer simply can't appreciate good play. People have had all the time in the world to figure him out but he's still making his style work because he's simply good.
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On November 20 2010 12:20 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:13 seaofsaturn wrote:On November 20 2010 12:12 Tachion wrote:
Fruit Dealer only just started his Lair 12 min into the game :/ Why in the world would he wait so long for bling speed/infestors and the like..... to get a 3rd hatch quicker... Fruit Dealer had 3 bases for quite awhile before he went lair. There's no way he couldn't have afforded it. It just......It makes no sense ;( FD was constantly on the defensive, and you can't stim kite speed banes on creep, and Foxer's strategy 90% relies on his marine micro. I....I don't understand you FD
I cant
foxer can =x
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On November 20 2010 12:21 Xxavi wrote:
I want to see Tester-Foxer match. Marines would be useless vs Colossi, I wonder what Foxer will do. In fact, I can't remember his vP match as yet.
Kill him before he has Colossi! :D
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Tester will STOMP Foxer.
FoxeR is the king of early game pressure. Tester is immune to all early game harass (RE: GSL 1)
I think FoxeR would be in for a rude awakening- but only because I'm a huge Tester fanboy T_T
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Is it over or there'll be more games?
I just tuned in and see commercials
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On November 20 2010 12:18 McDonalds wrote:
The first game was mostly a result of FruitDealer knowing what was coming, I think. He did a good job there. But the next two games showed how strong Foxer is when he's just going for it and not trying to win based on mind games. He just played straight up and his marines shucked and jived into FruitDealer's base.
I wondered: How did FD knew banshes were coming in the first game? i thought the tech lab on the factory placed on the choke (was it just a mind game?) would have been a sign for a thor-drop for FD.
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are there going to be more games tonight?
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On November 20 2010 12:22 Durp wrote:
Tester will STOMP Foxer.
FoxeR is the king of early game pressure. Tester is immune to all early game harass (RE: GSL 1)
I think FoxeR would be in for a rude awakening- but only because I'm a huge Tester fanboy T_T
except if the early pressure includes 1 raven 2 banshee and a handful of infantry ?
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On November 20 2010 12:16 Beardedclam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:15 Cyanocyst wrote:
Will no one use an infestor vs this guy? It would be really hard to get infestors with all the pressure FoxeR puts on you.
That was the latest lair possible, idk why FD would think that would be a good idea. Maybe he felt behind and just want to get a 3rd up as quick as possible.
However part of me also thinks, that FD probably wouldn't want to show his full hand vs Foxer. Just in case they meet in GSL3.
Though after that fail cheese, foxer looked good. He was using the marauders like super scvs, to block and tank dmg from Banes.
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On November 20 2010 12:22 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:21 Xxavi wrote:
I want to see Tester-Foxer match. Marines would be useless vs Colossi, I wonder what Foxer will do. In fact, I can't remember his vP match as yet. Kill him before he has Colossi! :D
What about sick sick Tester defense with FF? :D
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Next game starting soon! Genius vs. Tester for Protoss supremacy!
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That was awesome how Foxer used the factory in FD's base for defense
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On November 20 2010 12:22 Durp wrote:
Tester will STOMP Foxer.
FoxeR is the king of early game pressure. Tester is immune to all early game harass (RE: GSL 1)
I think FoxeR would be in for a rude awakening- but only because I'm a huge Tester fanboy T_T
Yea where is Tester now?
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The Chinese commentary is HORRENDOUS.
I actually mute the sound just so that I can enjoy the game.
Nothing that he says is remotely interest or contributory.
Bless those who can not understand what he is saying, because what he is saying hurts my head.
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On November 20 2010 12:20 Xxavi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:17 Kimoto wrote:
I wonder how Idra would manage against this MarineKing.. Idra gives up quickly. Always. Sometimes it's embarrassing. Did you watch Nony-Idra matches? I feel like Idra will see army of marines from Foxer and just type gg without even trying for a second.
Yes, that's probably true. Tyler didnt have THAT much of a lead yet he GG'ed. Made me sad
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On November 20 2010 12:22 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:21 Xxavi wrote:
I want to see Tester-Foxer match. Marines would be useless vs Colossi, I wonder what Foxer will do. In fact, I can't remember his vP match as yet. Kill him before he has Colossi! :D
have you seen tester ever he has like a sentry a zealot and kills a 50 food terran army haha but it would be freiking epic go go tester vs foxer in the finals would be sooooo amazing tester hwaiting.
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On November 20 2010 12:24 noD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:22 Durp wrote:
Tester will STOMP Foxer.
FoxeR is the king of early game pressure. Tester is immune to all early game harass (RE: GSL 1)
I think FoxeR would be in for a rude awakening- but only because I'm a huge Tester fanboy T_T except if the early pressure includes 1 raven 2 banshee and a handful of infantry ?
LOL True. Isn't that how he didn't qualify for the second GSL? Probably the third too?
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Both games FD lost, he always tried to expand early 3rd expo. I wonder if that money went to early Lair for banneling speed, it might help him holding the base better. Let see how FD gonna do GSL3.
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tester's game, then boxer then in 4 hours ro4 ...
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oh god i just love how they say "protoss-uh" :D
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On November 20 2010 12:23 SoJeN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:18 McDonalds wrote:
The first game was mostly a result of FruitDealer knowing what was coming, I think. He did a good job there. But the next two games showed how strong Foxer is when he's just going for it and not trying to win based on mind games. He just played straight up and his marines shucked and jived into FruitDealer's base. I wondered: How did FD knew banshes were coming in the first game? i thought the tech lab on the factory placed on the choke (was it just a mind game?) would have been a sign for a thor-drop for FD.
Not sure about the earliest moment, but he saw the first banshee leave Foxer's base, so he had a bit of time to prepare at that point.
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Foxer is the form player of the world and the best Terran for me. I also think losing to NesTea was probably the best thing that could have happened to him for his play, it taught him that he can be hyper-aggressive without being high risk cheese (delayed marine scv all-in).
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So pumped for this shit! When is it not exciting watching tester play?
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On November 20 2010 12:25 Kimoto wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:20 Xxavi wrote:On November 20 2010 12:17 Kimoto wrote:
I wonder how Idra would manage against this MarineKing.. Idra gives up quickly. Always. Sometimes it's embarrassing. Did you watch Nony-Idra matches? I feel like Idra will see army of marines from Foxer and just type gg without even trying for a second. Yes, that's probably true. Tyler didnt have THAT much of a lead yet he GG'ed. Made me sad
Yeah i really would love to see Idra vs Foxer. Idra seemed very confident on SotG and criticized Kyrix for loosing to him.
I like Idra, tho i don't think beating Foxer is all that easy, as he makes it out to be.
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On November 20 2010 12:24 positron. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:22 Durp wrote:
Tester will STOMP Foxer.
FoxeR is the king of early game pressure. Tester is immune to all early game harass (RE: GSL 1)
I think FoxeR would be in for a rude awakening- but only because I'm a huge Tester fanboy T_T Yea where is Tester now?
Playing NexGenius. ^_^
On November 20 2010 12:28 Cyanocyst wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:25 Kimoto wrote:On November 20 2010 12:20 Xxavi wrote:On November 20 2010 12:17 Kimoto wrote:
I wonder how Idra would manage against this MarineKing.. Idra gives up quickly. Always. Sometimes it's embarrassing. Did you watch Nony-Idra matches? I feel like Idra will see army of marines from Foxer and just type gg without even trying for a second. Yes, that's probably true. Tyler didnt have THAT much of a lead yet he GG'ed. Made me sad Yeah i really would love to see Idra vs Foxer. Idra seemed very confident on SotG and criticized Kyrix for loosing to him. I like Idra, tho i don't think beating Foxer is all that easy, as he makes it out to be.
True, though I bet he gets lair tech in time...
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Tester looks like he is ready to go postal when he is just chilling, imagine how he looks after failing to qualify for the GSL.
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On November 20 2010 12:17 Kimoto wrote:
I wonder how Idra would manage against this MarineKing..
Idra will meet MVP if they both win the first round. MVP is also a micro style terran player. He is kinda like Foxer with very good marine micro.
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How do I discover the name of different channels in this program for tomorrow matches for example?
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Alright, Tester v NexGenius. The race to Colossus begins!
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Tester vs. NexGenius Gm1 on Xel'Naga
Genius in the bottom left and Tester in the top right
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Tester dropping 3 gateways
EDIT; TESTER IS 4GATING.
REEDIT: NEXGENIUS IS ALSO 4GATING. ROFLFLFLFL
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theyre both 4 gating. this will be fun.
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Wowowow it's about to get ugly.
4gate vs 4gate
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except tester is defending with his 4 gate
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They're basically identical
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On November 20 2010 12:26 McDonalds wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:23 SoJeN wrote:On November 20 2010 12:18 McDonalds wrote:
The first game was mostly a result of FruitDealer knowing what was coming, I think. He did a good job there. But the next two games showed how strong Foxer is when he's just going for it and not trying to win based on mind games. He just played straight up and his marines shucked and jived into FruitDealer's base. I wondered: How did FD knew banshes were coming in the first game? i thought the tech lab on the factory placed on the choke (was it just a mind game?) would have been a sign for a thor-drop for FD. Not sure about the earliest moment, but he saw the first banshee leave Foxer's base, so he had a bit of time to prepare at that point.
I think he had knew about it before, because there were 4 queens already in his base when foxer arrived and also he made no defense (spine crawler) at his expansion (maybe he even dont when he prepares for thor drop, who knows).
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ROFL this chinese commentator is fucking hilarious. for anyone that doesnt speak chinese, youre missing out rofl
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Wow. Tester micro's stalkers brilliantly, focus firing down of all Genius's stalkers and defending the push!
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On November 20 2010 12:33 lao wrote:
ROFL this chinese commentator is fucking hilarious. for anyone that doesnt speak chinese, youre missing out rofl
yeah he is
and tester's micro is sick, though it is kinda hard to tell who is who
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Tester makes it look SOOOOO easy lol
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Tester getting blink, containing at main- Genius gets sentries to FF ramp
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Sooo boring, same build same play, tier1 all the way (
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Anyone restreaming the Korean feed? This Chinese guy is making my ears bleed...
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I expect a gg in 20s fro Genious
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The two best Protoss players in the world 4 gating each other, epic stuff.
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LOL at chinese commentator he loves tester
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That was pretty cool using the warp-in for sight up the ramp O.O
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Tester blinks up the ramp, focus fires everything, destroys NexGenius.
While they both pulled Rock in the rock-paper-scissors that is PvP, Tester looked in every way the better player.
GG from Genius
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On November 20 2010 12:35 cuppatea wrote:
Anyone restreaming the Korean feed? This Chinese guy is making my ears bleed...
i prefer to hear korean commentator as well. sigh....
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On November 20 2010 09:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hoping genius vs tester is a good series to learn some PvP from.
fuck. my. life.
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On November 20 2010 12:36 FuRong wrote:
The two best Protoss players in the world 4 gating each other, epic stuff.
good stuff is how they do that 4gate
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No guardian shield from Genius's 4 sentries?
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Awesome game, very fun viewing.
Tester looking slightly better mechanically and having the defensive advantage at the start.
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I guess the decisive moment was then tester decided to move down his own ramp and micro with stalkers... i would've never done that i guess that's why he is tester and im mid diamond lol ^^
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Tester vs. Genius Gm2 on Shakuras
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tester looks like if he loses he'll walk out and kill someone
never seen anyone look so intense
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Who beat tester at this gsl qualifiers? Damn I cant imagine this guy getting beat and I hate Ps lol
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On November 20 2010 12:38 Daray wrote:
I guess the decisive moment was then tester decided to move down his own ramp and micro with stalkers... i would've never done that i guess that's why he is tester and im mid diamond lol ^^
Yep Tester put it on the line there, trusting in his micro being superior, and it paid off.
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On November 20 2010 12:34 zzaaxxsscd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:33 lao wrote:
ROFL this chinese commentator is fucking hilarious. for anyone that doesnt speak chinese, youre missing out rofl yeah he is and tester's micro is sick, though it is kinda hard to tell who is who
I disagree here, he is making my ears bleed.
And yes, I can understand what he is saying.
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On November 20 2010 12:37 Ftrunkz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 09:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hoping genius vs tester is a good series to learn some PvP from. fuck. my. life.
Reiteration of PvP 101: Having a lot of units is cool.
:<
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On November 20 2010 12:37 shire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:35 cuppatea wrote:
Anyone restreaming the Korean feed? This Chinese guy is making my ears bleed... i prefer to hear korean commentator as well. sigh....
same...
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On November 20 2010 12:39 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:37 Ftrunkz wrote:On November 20 2010 09:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hoping genius vs tester is a good series to learn some PvP from. fuck. my. life. Reiteration of PvP 101: Having a lot of units is cool. :<
I will explain PvP for you. 1600 diamond.
Rock: 4 gate
Paper: Void ray rush
Scissors: 2 gate robo to colossus.
Good luck. I prefer scissors.
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4 Gate vs 1 Gate Robo, Genius about to get hammered i think.
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On November 20 2010 12:40 zzaaxxsscd wrote:works, thank you !!!
Does it? I just opened it and its way too slow to watch..
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where is the stream/replays?
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That pseudo aggression from Genius probably just saved him from a brutal loss.
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Epic fake 4 gate with proxy pylon by Genius
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I tried that link and its so choppy and slow, is there a setting that I have wrong?
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where do i get gom tv player?
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ahahah Jay Wilson from D3 team making a cameo.
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Tester destroying back door rocks. Has a colossus, making a second.
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i dont get why they dont have live streams of such epic games
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Genius out of position, this is gonna be ugly.
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On November 20 2010 12:44 Durp wrote:
Tester destroying back door rocks. Has a colossus, making a second.
That's Genius, attacking through the backdoor.
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On November 20 2010 12:40 Durp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:39 Dfgj wrote:On November 20 2010 12:37 Ftrunkz wrote:On November 20 2010 09:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hoping genius vs tester is a good series to learn some PvP from. fuck. my. life. Reiteration of PvP 101: Having a lot of units is cool. :< I will explain PvP for you. 1600 diamond. Rock: 4 gate Paper: Void ray rush Scissors: 2 gate robo to colossus. Good luck. I prefer scissors.
tyty you have opened my eyes
Brutal backdoor action taking place in this game.
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Thx, works, but lags too much.
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Nooooo Tester! Game 3 on LT.
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pvp is such a stupid matchup
but seriosuly where can i watch? i dont know what gom tv player is and i dont want to download anything
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Wow, fake 4 gate into Collosus rush...soooooooooooo good from Genius. I'm surprised Tester played so passively though, he seemed to sit there waiting for such a long time.
I wish these series were bo5 instead of bo3~
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Tester... what? Why weren't your 5 stalkers attacking his colossus? What....
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Wow NEXGenius collossus micro...
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God... That was sooooooooooooo close. So freaking close. A little better micro might have held that off.
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On November 20 2010 12:45 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:40 Durp wrote:On November 20 2010 12:39 Dfgj wrote:On November 20 2010 12:37 Ftrunkz wrote:On November 20 2010 09:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hoping genius vs tester is a good series to learn some PvP from. fuck. my. life. Reiteration of PvP 101: Having a lot of units is cool. :< I will explain PvP for you. 1600 diamond. Rock: 4 gate Paper: Void ray rush Scissors: 2 gate robo to colossus. Good luck. I prefer scissors. tyty you have opened my eyes Brutal backdoor action taking place in this game.
voidray rush doesnt beat 4 gate, i think it has to do with immortals
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On November 20 2010 12:46 Durp wrote:
GG. Tester dominates.
Needs a "not sure if serious" picture
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How the hell do you guys discover those channles in this ppstream?
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Tester lost game 2 guys....
Genius with a Genius strategy =D Fake 4gate into colossus, holy crap. Many solutions indeed!
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What was tester thinking going 4 gate and then switching to colossi? Did he seriously expect that to work?
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On November 20 2010 12:46 Oscatron wrote:
pvp is such a stupid matchup
but seriosuly where can i watch? i dont know what gom tv player is and i dont want to download anything
Can you do anything yourself? Read the op or this thread for re streams and streams and you can simply google gom player.
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On November 20 2010 12:47 GobIin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:45 Dfgj wrote:On November 20 2010 12:40 Durp wrote:On November 20 2010 12:39 Dfgj wrote:On November 20 2010 12:37 Ftrunkz wrote:On November 20 2010 09:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hoping genius vs tester is a good series to learn some PvP from. fuck. my. life. Reiteration of PvP 101: Having a lot of units is cool. :< I will explain PvP for you. 1600 diamond. Rock: 4 gate Paper: Void ray rush Scissors: 2 gate robo to colossus. Good luck. I prefer scissors. tyty you have opened my eyes Brutal backdoor action taking place in this game. voidray rush doesnt beat 4 gate, i think it has to do with immortals
HAHAHA Whoops. Good call, I totally gave the wrong one to each. MY BAD.
EDIT:
Rock: 4 gate
Paper: 2 gate robo
scissors: voidrays
my bad, Tester lost. Fucking Korean, all looks like Chicken scratch to me. Sorry
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Truly risky play from Genius, but with a bit of luck he pulled it off.
Bizarre passive 4-gate from Tester and questionable micro ignoring the colossus with stalkers.
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On November 20 2010 12:46 FuRong wrote:
Wow, fake 4 gate into Collosus rush...soooooooooooo good from Genius. I'm surprised Tester played so passively though, he seemed to sit there waiting for such a long time.
I wish these series were bo5 instead of bo3~
Tester was expecting a 4 gate because of the fake pylon so he didn't attack.
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It's either watch the Chinese stream on mute or Gom with a shit load of lag. KevinAce, where are you?
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On November 20 2010 12:47 Telcontar wrote:
What was tester thinking going 4 gate and then switching to colossi? Did he seriously expect that to work?
it's pvp man if he has colossi with range and you don't its pretty much gg :/
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On November 20 2010 12:45 dukethegold wrote:Thx, works, but lags too much.
Yeah, super choppy for me, too. Thanks anyway though.
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Does anyone else hear an English conversation?
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On November 20 2010 12:47 Telcontar wrote:
What was tester thinking going 4 gate and then switching to colossi? Did he seriously expect that to work?
Didn't Genius do the same? He just got more zealots and colossi instead of stalkers.
Even in that uneven fight, I felt Genius was about to lose. Tester clearly has the better micro.
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Blink stalker VS blink stalker, can't wait
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This is the worst stream commentary EVER! Holy crap I tried listening to it but my ears started bleeding.
EDIT: I was talking about Spades.
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Hindsight is always 20/20, but Tester should have gone straight for blink stalkers instead of trying to produce so much off of 1 base.
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Both going Blink Stalkers in game 3, mirror builds. I thought it was gonna be mirror DT rush for a second =P
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On November 20 2010 12:48 pigscanfly wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:47 Telcontar wrote:
What was tester thinking going 4 gate and then switching to colossi? Did he seriously expect that to work? it's pvp man if he has colossi with range and you don't its pretty much gg :/
Unless you have substantially more units in the first place, which is possible - see oGsMC in the clanleagues before GSL2 where he cut lances to get a few more units out and break the backdoor vs a Werra player.
However you still have to go colo eventually in almost all situations :/
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Those headphones they are wearing look sick, any idea who makes them?
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On November 20 2010 12:48 pigscanfly wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:47 Telcontar wrote:
What was tester thinking going 4 gate and then switching to colossi? Did he seriously expect that to work? it's pvp man if he has colossi with range and you don't its pretty much gg :/
That's what he is saying exactly. If the other guy in some miracle way went x gate + robo he needs to put pressure rather than be 1-2 colossus behind.
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On November 20 2010 12:50 Poyo wrote:
Those headphones they are wearing look sick, any idea who makes them?
Those are the Razer Banshee
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On November 20 2010 12:50 Poyo wrote:
Those headphones they are wearing look sick, any idea who makes them?
it's the razer banshee
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Mirror builds. Both going 3gate blink stalkers.
This is funny. More micro battles to come!
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On November 20 2010 12:50 Poyo wrote:
Those headphones they are wearing look sick, any idea who makes them?
http://www2.razerzone.com/sc2/banshee.php
For the low, low price of only $120, you can have a flashing "SC2" on your ears while you play.
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On November 20 2010 12:49 Xxavi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:47 Telcontar wrote:
What was tester thinking going 4 gate and then switching to colossi? Did he seriously expect that to work? Didn't Genius do the same? He just got more zealots and colossi instead of stalkers. Even in that uneven fight, I felt Genius was about to lose. Tester clearly has the better micro.
Genius got colossi tech before he got additional gateways. Getting 4 gates before even getting a robo is a pretty long winded way of doing things.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
Where is the Results and recommended games section.This is supposed to be an LR thread right?
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On November 20 2010 12:51 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 12:50 Poyo wrote:
Those headphones they are wearing look sick, any idea who makes them? Those are the Razer Banshee
Thanks!
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is there a site where i can watch this without the need to download anything?
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LOL what the heck is going on, 0 workers for Tester, 2 for Genius
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Someone is going to get blunk.
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this reminds me EXACTLY of Genius vs Inca in gsl 2.
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god almighty there needs to be some sort of defenders advantage put in this matchup before it becomes worth watching. :[
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lol these guys really are pretty evenly matched - this is like Genius vs Inca deja vu also
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On November 20 2010 12:53 Oscatron wrote:
is there a site where i can watch this without the need to download anything?
there is a list of streams on your right under the Calander
Stream:Spades
Click on that.
You do know how to click right?
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0 workers for each player, 2 DTS vs 7 blinkstalkers and a cannon
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This is the worst case scenario for a game of rock-paper-scissors.
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omg if he only killed pylon
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haha this base trade is ridiculous
so awesome
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If Tester puts his 2 DTs on his ramp - its a draw since Genius can't blink up.
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HAHA this isnt going to end!
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Well that's a draw... What happens now
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Yup, think they need to regame. WOW epic.
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On November 20 2010 12:55 SiDX wrote:
omg if he only killed pylon
I really thought he was going to kill it too.
Seems like a mistake.
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"you gg!"
"no, you gg!!"
haha
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On November 20 2010 12:56 Raine wrote:
Well that's a draw... What happens now
Awesomeness.
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i dont think tester can ever break that cannon+stalker ball... but can Genius move out to kill tester off? If not... its a draw lol
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first televised stalemate?
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Draw. LOL GG
If only Tester's DT attacked the pylon instaed of the cannon earliar.
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Tester is the most frustrating player in the world, if he took an Idra-like approach to playing he could be very successful (because is mechanically as good as anyone), instead he has the most stupid aggressive decision making processes.
I mean who builds a Dark Shrine when they see a 4-gate Blink Stalker push with superior numbers coming?
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I wish he went for the pylon he would have won if he did.
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Hero DT (30kills) killing Genius base on his own.
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On November 20 2010 12:57 Tachion wrote:
first televised stalemate?
In Korean Starcraft 2 - I think so..
In Broodwar there were quiet a lot :D
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Holy shit, this game is amazing. Tester techs DTs but Genius attacks and wins the Blink Stalker battle because Tester invested resources in DTs. Genius kills Tester's base, but meanwhile there are DTs in his mineral line killing everything. Genius makes a proxy Forge and two Cannons to protect it in a faraway position, but Tester finds it and kills one before it finishes.
Current situation: both players have no Probes, it's 7 Stalkers vs 2 DTs, but the Stalkers are standing guard by the Forge/Cannon so Tester can't kill it.
I think they just declared it a draw?
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lolz
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did genius not have enough gas to go robo+obs? seems like he would have won if he did
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Someone translate what they said.
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My 2 favorite players forcing a game 4 in a best of 3?
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On November 20 2010 12:58 Chaoz wrote:
Someone translate what they said.
They both agreed on a draw, rematch inc.
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can a ref plz rule it a tie already.. -_-
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He had 100 gas from the looks of it, so can build a Robo but no obs.
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He wouldn't had gotten the pylon i think. 150/150 vs 200/200 and the DT barely escaped?
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There's always a first for everything.
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iv never seen that before.
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That was awesome. I want them both to win so I can't complain with a draw
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Genius could have won that game quite easily from that stalemate with micro, if he loses the next game he should be so bitter.
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first official draw of televised sc2, pretty cool to personally witness it live tho =]
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They are too good to actually defeat each other lol
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Tester couldve got it if he really tried.
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Hilarious. That's the first draw I've seen in Sc2.
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being revealed should show all of their units aswell, and if they're invisible they should be see-able.
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On November 20 2010 12:57 Imperfect1987 wrote:
I wish he went for the pylon he would have won if he did.
a pylon has more hp than a cannon, he wouldn't have finished it off before losing his dt, which escaped one shot away from dying.
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Genius still could have won for sure... I couldn't see tester doing the same...
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Seemed like Genius could have won that by hit and moving on the buildings without taking hits from the DT. Would have taken a while but it's not too hard to avoid taking damage from a single DT when you have blink stalkers.
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He could have at least sent 2 Stalkers out to try taking some buildings down. It's not like he needed all 8 of them to defend his cannon.
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On November 20 2010 12:57 konaman wrote:
Tester is the most frustrating player in the world, if he took an Idra-like approach to playing he could be very successful (because is mechanically as good as anyone), instead he has the most stupid aggressive decision making processes.
I mean who builds a Dark Shrine when they see a 4-gate Blink Stalker push with superior numbers coming?
Why you so worked up? Genius won't win either.
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Why didn't tester go for that pylon?
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On November 20 2010 13:00 adeezy wrote:
Tester couldve got it if he really tried.
How?
Genius could have left 2 Stalkers at the Cannon and just blink micro kill Testers buildings?
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On November 20 2010 12:59 konaman wrote:
Genius could have won that game quite easily from that stalemate with micro, if he loses the next game he should be so bitter. He could've, but he didn't want to. He was just sitting next to his cannon with all of his units. He had no interest in playing.
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On November 20 2010 12:57 konaman wrote:
Tester is the most frustrating player in the world, if he took an Idra-like approach to playing he could be very successful (because is mechanically as good as anyone), instead he has the most stupid aggressive decision making processes.
I mean who builds a Dark Shrine when they see a 4-gate Blink Stalker push with superior numbers coming?
If he delayed genius a little bit he would have won. If he doesnt, he base trades and ties. Which is what happened.
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genius shouldn't have taken the draw. he shouldn't at least TRIED to win with blink stalker micro. i don't understand his decision to accept the draw :/
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first time i saw a draw in a pro game xD
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On November 20 2010 13:00 cuppatea wrote:
Seemed like Genius could have won that by hit and moving on the buildings without taking hits from the DT. Would have taken a while but it's not too hard to avoid taking damage from a single DT when you have blink stalkers.
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On November 20 2010 13:00 Kettchup wrote:
He could have at least sent 2 Stalkers out to try taking some buildings down. It's not like he needed all 8 of them to defend his cannon.
He does if he doesn't know how many DTs there are on the map.
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here we go again on our owwnnnnn, like a drifter we were born to walk aloooooneeee
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Well, could it have been possible to wait until Genius moves some of his stalkers up, and bumrush the cannon with his 2 DTs? Cause if the cannon dies, as long as one DT is alive, he wins.
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On November 20 2010 13:00 cuppatea wrote:
Seemed like Genius could have won that by hit and moving on the buildings without taking hits from the DT. Would have taken a while but it's not too hard to avoid taking damage from a single DT when you have blink stalkers.
Tester could also have put both DTS on his ramp and prevent blinking
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On November 20 2010 13:00 wolfe wrote:
Why didn't tester go for that pylon?
No, he barely killed the cannon before the second came up. Pylons have more life.
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On November 20 2010 13:00 wolfe wrote:
Why didn't tester go for that pylon?
He probably knew he didn't have enough time to kill that pylon. The only option was to try and kill the first cannon and hope he had enough time to kill the other one before it warped in.
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It's scary though, Genius doesnt know how many DTs are out. If Tester has 3 or more, Genius is risking a loss. But yeah he might have been able to poke a little more.
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I will clarify since nobody gets this.
NexGenius has no idea of how many DTs were on the map.
Tester could put DTs on Hold Position at the bottom of his ramp, and Genius would not be able to blink into the main because he had NO SIGHT.
More importantly: Tester's DT had 30 kills. Zeratul?
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maybe NEX didnt know how many DT's tester had. perhaps he though there were 3 maybe 4? and if he didnt keep alot of stalkers /w the cannon they could have just ramobo'd and killed it
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On November 20 2010 13:00 BennyTurner wrote:
Genius still could have won for sure... I couldn't see tester doing the same...
If he blocked his ramp with DT's genious can not finish the game...
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On November 20 2010 13:00 konaman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:00 adeezy wrote:
Tester couldve got it if he really tried. How? Genius could have left 2 Stalkers at the Cannon and just blink micro kill Testers buildings?
Can't blink to high ground if you don't have vision. If Tester put a DTs on map, DTs won't let in.
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Yeah i suppose the issue of not knowing how many DTs were in play is probably the defining factor. I think if the roles were reversed you would have seen Tester have a crack at it, as he is a more risk-based player.
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Tester wins the rematch with blinkstalkers against 2gate robo
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Can't you blink past a force field onto the ramp and then run the rest of the way up? If so he could blink one stalker up and then the rest follow.
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On November 20 2010 13:05 lao wrote:
shit tester on a BO loss
Tester is blue
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On November 20 2010 13:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
Can't you blink past a force field onto the ramp and then run the rest of the way up? If so he could blink one stalker up and then the rest follow.
That's what you are supposed to do yes
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Good. I hope tester wins the whole thing.
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TESTER WINS!!!!!
With blink stalkers.
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see how broken pvp is. rock/paper/scissors lol
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Holy crap Tester sick timing blinking into Genius' base right before the first immortal comes out.
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Tester vs Foxer next round, cool.
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On November 20 2010 13:06 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
Can't you blink past a force field onto the ramp and then run the rest of the way up? If so he could blink one stalker up and then the rest follow. That's what you are supposed to do yes
Well if it can be done with a force field it can be done past DT's.
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Fucking get in. Love Tester. He clearly has better micro than Genius. It's there to see for everybody.
Not to mention that he is >cheese.
Genius, go train you standard BS shit against average players.
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On November 20 2010 13:05 JinDesu wrote:Tester is blue
oh fuck got confused. i wish they put these dudes faces up there. i dont be understanding that hangul.
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On November 20 2010 13:06 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
Can't you blink past a force field onto the ramp and then run the rest of the way up? If so he could blink one stalker up and then the rest follow. That's what you are supposed to do yes
And that's how he won. GG tester, focus fire micro, great series. Everyone asks for a bo5 from FoxeRvFruitDealer so Tester and Genius give us 4 games lol!
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Fuck yes Tester. Beautiful play.
That draw game really emphasized the difference between the two players. Genius is safe and boring. Tester plays this game in a way that's just brilliant to watch.
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Tester <3 i love this guy , even if he plays like crap time to time
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zzzzzz pvp rock paper scissors
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On November 20 2010 13:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
Can't you blink past a force field onto the ramp and then run the rest of the way up? If so he could blink one stalker up and then the rest follow.
And thats what happened
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PVP / PVT so fucked up cause of many bo loses.
so retarded.
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Tester is so happy, was rooting for both but I'm glad that he won over Genius since he won't get the chance to play in this GSL3.
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I hope tester wins the tourny to make up for the GSL prelim losses; would be nice to see.
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FK YEAH TESTER
Proving to all the doubters that he is still one of the top 3 protoss in the world.
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Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that?
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Wow... blinking in between the forcfields for sight... I didn't think it was possible.
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On November 20 2010 13:07 Weasel- wrote:
Holy crap Tester sick timing blinking into Genius' base right before the first immortal comes out.
I dont think you can really call the standard 3 gate blink stalker build 'sick timing'....
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On November 20 2010 13:07 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
Can't you blink past a force field onto the ramp and then run the rest of the way up? If so he could blink one stalker up and then the rest follow. And thats what happened
Except I am referring to the Draw not the last game.
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On November 20 2010 13:07 Xxavi wrote:
Fucking get in. Love Tester. He clearly has better micro than Genius. It's there to see for everybody.
Not to mention that he is >cheese.
Genius, go train you standard BS shit against average players.
bullshit shit?
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On November 20 2010 13:07 Uncultured wrote:
Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that?
He beat SangHo last season.
Tester is better than SangHo though, would be interesting to watch.
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Hmmm...if you guys need another streamer of the Korean broadcast for this afternoon's games then I might be able to do it. I have fast internet (obviously, it's Korean).
I have no idea how to setup a stream though, is there a thread anywhere with step by step instructions?
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gg tester and i cant wait to see tester vs foxer next round this will be awsome
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On November 20 2010 13:06 Oscatron wrote:
see how broken pvp is. rock/paper/scissors lol
Yes, it's close to 50/50, but micro influences a lot. In the very first match, Tester won a micro battle. Also, even in the second match, he was a step away from defeating Genius' colossi push.
I root for protosses, but I cannot see Genius winning battle against top Ts and Zs. So I am rooting for Tester.
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On November 20 2010 13:07 Uncultured wrote:
Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that?
I actually don't recall.....
EDIT: Oh yeah, sangho
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On November 20 2010 13:08 Kraz.Del wrote:
Wow... blinking in between the forcfields for sight... I didn't think it was possible.
lol? that's how you're supposed to use blink to get up their ramp vs. FFs and is pretty much the whole point of his build
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On November 20 2010 13:07 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:06 JinDesu wrote:On November 20 2010 13:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
Can't you blink past a force field onto the ramp and then run the rest of the way up? If so he could blink one stalker up and then the rest follow. That's what you are supposed to do yes Well if it can be done with a force field it can be done past DT's.
Sort of. If you have two dts blocking the bottom of the ramp, I don't believe you can blink past them. I'm not entirely sure though.
However, if you have more than 2 (which is key because Genius didn't know how many there are), I don't think it's possible to blink past them to get vision.
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On November 20 2010 13:07 Xxavi wrote:
Fucking get in. Love Tester. He clearly has better micro than Genius. It's there to see for everybody.
Not to mention that he is >cheese.
Genius, go train you standard BS shit against average players.
His micro is as good as anyones really, nipping at the heels of Foxer.
He can be so frustrating to watch though, Tester and Genius are my two favourite players, however i feel Genius uses the ability he has better. Tester is a big underachiever, and i think the hugely risky DT tied game outcome epitomises that.
Tester plays like a guy who isn't actually as sound a player as his opponent, so he takes huge risks, but he IS as fundamentally sound as anyone, so it hurts his consistency and level of success.
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On November 20 2010 13:07 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:06 JinDesu wrote:On November 20 2010 13:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
Can't you blink past a force field onto the ramp and then run the rest of the way up? If so he could blink one stalker up and then the rest follow. That's what you are supposed to do yes Well if it can be done with a force field it can be done past DT's.
IF there were 3-4 dts and considering each do 60 damage (i think) it is kind possible for a stalker be sniped before blinking ...
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On November 20 2010 13:08 netherDrake wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:07 Uncultured wrote:
Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that? He beat SangHo last season. Tester is better than SangHo though, would be interesting to watch.
Not to mention, Sang-Ho lost that game on a miss-micro'ed forcefield. After watching this series, I don't think mis-micro will be a problem for Tester.
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Pretty intense matches. They are so similar in skill they had to go to a game 4 in a bo3. These guys may be the ones to carry protoss in the future GSL's.
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Hellyeah Foxer vs Tester!
Hope Boxer represents now and kick that zerg ass, the emperor needs to win this and hell Tester vs Boxer finals!
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On November 20 2010 13:08 netherDrake wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:07 Uncultured wrote:
Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that? He beat SangHo last season. Tester is better than SangHo though, would be interesting to watch.
They both play pvt the exact same though with phoenix/colossus and foxer rolled over it np
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On November 20 2010 13:09 Durp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:08 netherDrake wrote:On November 20 2010 13:07 Uncultured wrote:
Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that? He beat SangHo last season. Tester is better than SangHo though, would be interesting to watch. Not to mention, Sang-Ho lost that game on a miss-micro'ed forcefield. After watching this series, I don't think mis-micro will be a problem for Tester.
u watched gsl1 tester x hopetorture ?
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When is the next match guys?
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On November 20 2010 13:07 Uncultured wrote:
Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that?
He knocked SangHo out in Ro16 of GSL2. It didn't tell us much about his TvP though because SangHo misplaced a force field in each game and lost to pre-colossus pressure.
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Someone has the FD vs Foxer VoDs?
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So when does the next game start?
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On November 20 2010 13:11 noD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:09 Durp wrote:On November 20 2010 13:08 netherDrake wrote:On November 20 2010 13:07 Uncultured wrote:
Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that? He beat SangHo last season. Tester is better than SangHo though, would be interesting to watch. Not to mention, Sang-Ho lost that game on a miss-micro'ed forcefield. After watching this series, I don't think mis-micro will be a problem for Tester. u watched gsl1 tester x hopetorture ?
Yes, but a couple of those games were lost on bad impulsive decisions, against a smart patient player. Pretty much the major anti-Tester complaint you see all over this thread.
The advantage for Tester, is that FoxeR is an equal risk taker, so this is shaping up to be an incredible series!
FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW, THE NEXT GAMES WILL BE AT 2:00 AM EST
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Any idea when the next set of matches start?
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Tester is definitely capable of winning this whole tournament, I think Genius could have as well. Definitely happy to see Tester win though
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On November 20 2010 13:13 Durp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:11 noD wrote:On November 20 2010 13:09 Durp wrote:On November 20 2010 13:08 netherDrake wrote:On November 20 2010 13:07 Uncultured wrote:
Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that? He beat SangHo last season. Tester is better than SangHo though, would be interesting to watch. Not to mention, Sang-Ho lost that game on a miss-micro'ed forcefield. After watching this series, I don't think mis-micro will be a problem for Tester. u watched gsl1 tester x hopetorture ? Yes, but a couple of those games were lost on bad impulsive decisions, against a smart patient player. Pretty much the major anti-Tester complaint you see all over this thread. The advantage for Tester, is that FoxeR is an equal risk taker, so this is shaping up to be an incredible series! FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW, THE NEXT GAMES WILL BE AT 2:00 AM EST
why must there be a 3 hour intermission
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On November 20 2010 13:07 Xxavi wrote:
Fucking get in. Love Tester. He clearly has better micro than Genius. It's there to see for everybody.
Not to mention that he is >cheese.
Genius, go train you standard BS shit against average players.
Where did you see he had better micro? Blink stalkers will always out micro zealots...
When they both had blink stalkers Genius won.
Plus, Tester does Korean4gates's that's cheesy.
Nice try though.
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On November 20 2010 13:11 AndAgain wrote:
Can 2 DTs kill a cannon?
Yerp, without losing a dt too.
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On November 20 2010 13:11 noD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:09 Durp wrote:On November 20 2010 13:08 netherDrake wrote:On November 20 2010 13:07 Uncultured wrote:
Foxer versus a protoss player.... Have we seen that? He beat SangHo last season. Tester is better than SangHo though, would be interesting to watch. Not to mention, Sang-Ho lost that game on a miss-micro'ed forcefield. After watching this series, I don't think mis-micro will be a problem for Tester. u watched gsl1 tester x hopetorture ?
Imo ITR is a lot more solid player for mid game than foxer (mostly because i didnt see him mid game ^^ ) and if Tester wont make stupid decisions , it will be really nice games .
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On November 20 2010 13:15 Beardedclam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:07 Xxavi wrote:
Fucking get in. Love Tester. He clearly has better micro than Genius. It's there to see for everybody.
Not to mention that he is >cheese.
Genius, go train you standard BS shit against average players. Where did you see he had better micro? Blink stalkers will always out micro zealots... When they both had blink stalkers Genius won. Plus, Tester does Korean4gates's that's cheesy. Nice try though.
He had way better micro in game 1 , and lost blink fight because was getting Dt's . now saying that genius did bs isnt true too .
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On November 20 2010 13:15 Beardedclam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:07 Xxavi wrote:
Fucking get in. Love Tester. He clearly has better micro than Genius. It's there to see for everybody.
Not to mention that he is >cheese.
Genius, go train you standard BS shit against average players. Where did you see he had better micro? Blink stalkers will always out micro zealots... When they both had blink stalkers Genius won. Plus, Tester does Korean4gates's that's cheesy. Nice try though.
In the very first match, it was stalker army vs stalker army, without blink or anything. Tester won that battle, and after that he got blink to blink up the ramp.
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Watch a couple of Testers Terran play games and you will see how solid his micro is, even though his Terran play overall might have a number of flaws.
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Wait a sec, about game 3...
Couldn't Genius win by leaving a couple stalkers by the cannon, and then send the rest to kill Tester's buildings? Even if he wouldn't manage to kill the buildings, it would still be a tie because 2 DTs can't kill a cannon and 2 stalkers.
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On November 20 2010 13:17 Xxavi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:15 Beardedclam wrote:On November 20 2010 13:07 Xxavi wrote:
Fucking get in. Love Tester. He clearly has better micro than Genius. It's there to see for everybody.
Not to mention that he is >cheese.
Genius, go train you standard BS shit against average players. Where did you see he had better micro? Blink stalkers will always out micro zealots... When they both had blink stalkers Genius won. Plus, Tester does Korean4gates's that's cheesy. Nice try though. In the very first match, it was stalker army vs stalker army, without blink or anything. Tester won that battle, and after that he got blink to blink up the ramp.
High ground more units beats less units low ground.
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On November 20 2010 13:18 AndAgain wrote:
Wait a sec, about game 3...
Couldn't Genius win by leaving a couple stalkers by the cannon, and then send the rest to kill Tester's buildings? Even if he wouldn't manage to kill the buildings, it would still be a tie because 2 DTs can't kill a cannon and 2 stalkers.
He didn't know how many DTs Tester had.
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On November 20 2010 13:18 AndAgain wrote:
Wait a sec, about game 3...
Couldn't Genius win by leaving a couple stalkers by the cannon, and then send the rest to kill Tester's buildings? Even if he wouldn't manage to kill the buildings, it would still be a tie because 2 DTs can't kill a cannon and 2 stalkers.
That was what i thought but in hindsight he didn't know how many DTs Tester had so backed himself to win the final game.
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On November 20 2010 13:07 Xxavi wrote:
Fucking get in. Love Tester. He clearly has better micro than Genius. It's there to see for everybody.
Not to mention that he is >cheese.
Genius, go train you standard BS shit against average players.
average players= white-ra, loner, select ?
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On November 20 2010 13:18 konaman wrote:
Watch a couple of Testers Terran play games and you will see how solid his micro is, even though his Terran play overall might have a number of flaws.
Yeah. IMO if he's good he's clearly the best protoss in the world and maybe the best player, pity he's inconsistent. I think he has the best chance to take this tourney though, I don't see him losing to anyone else on the other side of the bracket if he beats Foxer.
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On November 20 2010 13:09 Xxavi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:06 Oscatron wrote:
see how broken pvp is. rock/paper/scissors lol Yes, it's close to 50/50, but micro influences a lot. In the very first match, Tester won a micro battle. Also, even in the second match, he was a step away from defeating Genius' colossi push. I root for protosses, but I cannot see Genius winning battle against top Ts and Zs. So I am rooting for Tester.
Blind fan boy.
User was warned for this post
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Genius could've won by micro in game 3, but he didn't even try to. That's why it went to draw. He was just sitting on his cannon at 0apm.
Also, if anyone wants to question Tester's micro, go watch the GSL ro16 Game 3 of Tester where he has insane zealot micro to fight off a perfectly conditioned proxy zealot rush.
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I am a fan boy. Good Protoss are so scarce that I am a huge Tester fanboy.
In fact, in BW, I am a Bisu fanboy. I want somebody to be mentioned in the same way as they mention Jaedong and Flash, or even historically, Nada, Boxer, oov, Savior, July. Freaking annoying that there is no one. I think Bisu has the potential, so I am a Bisu fan boy, although would root for any other protoss as well if they play other races.
Similarly, if Genius played any other Z or T player, or even a P player, I would root for him, because I consider him the second best P. Come on PROTOSS!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
What are the results....Any Recommendation?
LR Threads without Results or Recommendation is not right.
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On November 20 2010 13:32 TMTurtle wrote:
Genius could've won by micro in game 3, but he didn't even try to. That's why it went to draw. He was just sitting on his cannon at 0apm.
Also, if anyone wants to question Tester's micro, go watch the GSL ro16 Game 3 of Tester where he has insane zealot micro to fight off a perfectly conditioned proxy zealot rush.
How is he supposed to know how many DTs Tester had. He couldn't leave the cannon.
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Fruitdealer losses to foxer again?
Hopefully Fruitdealer will come up with some awesome defense for season 3.
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On November 20 2010 13:09 Xxavi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:06 Oscatron wrote:
see how broken pvp is. rock/paper/scissors lol Yes, it's close to 50/50, but micro influences a lot. In the very first match, Tester won a micro battle. Also, even in the second match, he was a step away from defeating Genius' colossi push. I root for protosses, but I cannot see Genius winning battle against top Ts and Zs. So I am rooting for Tester.
You do know that he just beat the winner of GSL2, right? As well as a bunch of other Top tier T Z and P players.
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GO KYRIX!!!! Kyrix fighting~
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On November 20 2010 13:42 Beardedclam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:32 TMTurtle wrote:
Genius could've won by micro in game 3, but he didn't even try to. That's why it went to draw. He was just sitting on his cannon at 0apm.
Also, if anyone wants to question Tester's micro, go watch the GSL ro16 Game 3 of Tester where he has insane zealot micro to fight off a perfectly conditioned proxy zealot rush. How is he supposed to know how many DTs Tester had. He couldn't leave the cannon. 1) Had he been paying attention, he very much could've known how many DTs there were.
2) Theoretically, he could've left even all but 1 stalker at the cannon and microed a single stalker at a time to take out Tester's base. He didn't try.
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On November 20 2010 13:13 Truefire wrote:We will be streaming the next set of games at 11 PST and we will also be streaming the ro4 and finals tomorrow http://www.livestream.com/trunxs
i really prefer korean commentator over chinese commentator though... that chinese commentator was hurting my ears
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Tester might have bluffed something good, scared Genius into thinking Tester had more DT's than he originally thought.
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On November 20 2010 13:43 Beardedclam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:09 Xxavi wrote:On November 20 2010 13:06 Oscatron wrote:
see how broken pvp is. rock/paper/scissors lol Yes, it's close to 50/50, but micro influences a lot. In the very first match, Tester won a micro battle. Also, even in the second match, he was a step away from defeating Genius' colossi push. I root for protosses, but I cannot see Genius winning battle against top Ts and Zs. So I am rooting for Tester. You do know that he just beat the winner of GSL2, right? As well as a bunch of other Top tier T Z and P players.
Correct, my bad.
Genius is a great player. IMO, still the second best to Tester.
Genius fighting! I will root for Genius every time except vs Tester. Sorry for fanboism.
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That series made me sad that Tester hasn't made it, he clearly has still been training hard. First 3 set tie weve seen in GSL. Both of them play protoss to the max.
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On November 20 2010 13:55 TMTurtle wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:42 Beardedclam wrote:On November 20 2010 13:32 TMTurtle wrote:
Genius could've won by micro in game 3, but he didn't even try to. That's why it went to draw. He was just sitting on his cannon at 0apm.
Also, if anyone wants to question Tester's micro, go watch the GSL ro16 Game 3 of Tester where he has insane zealot micro to fight off a perfectly conditioned proxy zealot rush. How is he supposed to know how many DTs Tester had. He couldn't leave the cannon. 1) Had he been paying attention, he very much could've known how many DTs there were. 2) Theoretically, he could've left even all but 1 stalker at the cannon and microed a single stalker at a time to take out Tester's base. He didn't try.
No, he could have been hiding them. Yes he could have sent 1 at a time but I'm sure he respects Tester and is not going to BM him like that when there is not huge prize.
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On November 20 2010 14:16 Beardedclam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 13:55 TMTurtle wrote:On November 20 2010 13:42 Beardedclam wrote:On November 20 2010 13:32 TMTurtle wrote:
Genius could've won by micro in game 3, but he didn't even try to. That's why it went to draw. He was just sitting on his cannon at 0apm.
Also, if anyone wants to question Tester's micro, go watch the GSL ro16 Game 3 of Tester where he has insane zealot micro to fight off a perfectly conditioned proxy zealot rush. How is he supposed to know how many DTs Tester had. He couldn't leave the cannon. 1) Had he been paying attention, he very much could've known how many DTs there were. 2) Theoretically, he could've left even all but 1 stalker at the cannon and microed a single stalker at a time to take out Tester's base. He didn't try. No, he could have been hiding them. Yes he could have sent 1 at a time but I'm sure he respects Tester and is not going to BM him like that when there is not huge prize.
Trying to win a game is bad manners?
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THANK YOU Tester.
What a baller.
Just shows that not qualifying for the GSL twice doesn't change the fact that he deserves to be in the competition at least.
In my eyes you are the best Protoss player at the moment and if you practice hard enough the best player in the world. Please bring Protoss out of it's current dark age and show us the way.
Damn man I sure as hell hope you beat Foxer next round and go on to win this thing.
Good luck man, the entire race is behind you.
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Not a huge prize? GSL has a bigger prize, but 15k is nothing to scoff at.
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Ppl complain about Foxer's cheesy play. Yes, but almost everyone is defeated by his 'cheesy' play. When you know that Foxer is going to early rush and you still cannot hold off, it simply means that Foxer outplays you.
Remember when Flash began to win a ton of games in 2008, people also hated his cheesy playing style, considered him as a boring player. "It wasn't until later when his genius in relation to economic timings, defensive play, came out. .. Flash went on to have one of the most dominant winning sprees in progaming history, ..."(wiki teamliquid) .
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I am pretty damn sure that the players are giving everything they got, with slightly less pressure and less intense practice schedule.
For individuals like Tester and Inca who got knocked out of GSL, this is pretty much the only thing on their schedule for the next month.
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This took me forever to do, and had to download some ghetto ass programs haha
![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8331498/tester.gif)
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kyrix vs BOXERRRRR
meh, anyone else rooting for kyrix like me?
I think if he brings his sc2 philosophy into RL fighting, although he's skinny and all...but he can probably kill someone twice his size lol
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This dude has the most baller Jaedong vs Flash shirt....
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No, but did you really expect him to bring a stalker out one by one and start shooting building while everyone watches and waits. It's disrespectful to someone he is probably buddies with.
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On November 20 2010 14:51 Mioraka wrote:
kyrix vs BOXERRRRR
meh, anyone else rooting for kyrix like me?
I think he brings his sc2 philosophy into RL fighting, although he's skinny and all...but he can probably kill someone twice his size lol
I really like Kyrix but I still have to root for boxer. With that being said I can't see any way it won't be 2-0 to Kyrix.
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Where is a stream for this? I arrived late Don't want to download anything:-p
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It's in intermission for another hour. The stream should be up again then.
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how are you guys watching this?
edit: nvm found it
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whos playing next? kryxis vs foxer?
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it looks like the Chinese stream has some Chinese player playing on the Korean server
Chinese player looks to be playing pretty fast, but got owned by storms in a PvZ
next game Chinese player gets owned by proxy pylon warp-in on Scrap Station :D
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On November 20 2010 15:18 Suffo wrote:
whos playing next? kryxis vs foxer?
kyrix vs slayersboxer and maka vs ogsthewind
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On November 20 2010 14:40 lao wrote:This took me forever to do, and had to download some ghetto ass programs haha
Wow really sums him up lol.
Guys BEAST and looks badass in real life.
Looks like he's going to go on a killing spree lol.
<3 Tester.
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On November 20 2010 14:36 dukethegold wrote:
I am pretty damn sure that the players are giving everything they got, with slightly less pressure and less intense practice schedule.
For individuals like Tester and Inca who got knocked out of GSL, this is pretty much the only thing on their schedule for the next month.
Yes, add Nada into the mix, who also failed to qualify. Then there's Ensnare, who also failed, AFAIK.
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The matches start in half an hour, by my calculations.
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On November 20 2010 14:58 Beardedclam wrote:
No, but did you really expect him to bring a stalker out one by one and start shooting building while everyone watches and waits. It's disrespectful to someone he is probably buddies with.
Also, Protoss buildings regenerate shields. It's not like he could just chip away at the buildings slowly, because the DTs will come to chase him, meaning he has to run away, and then the shields regenerate some more etc. It would be impossible to kill the buildings without bringing at least 3-4 Stalkers imo, and it would be too risky to leave only 2-3 behind to defend considering that he didn't know how many DTs were out there.
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Will these ever be released as VoDs? I really wish they would have just lumped this in with the S3 ticket.
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I really like watching Tester play. Sure, what he does is not solid at all and sometimes just plain foolish, but its still entertaining as hell to watch and he just seems to not get flustered by anything.
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Sorry I haven't been in here yet. Where do I go to watch the Tester vs Foxer game?
Ps. GO TESTER!
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Folks, if anybody can stream with Korean commentary and in-game sound, it will be great, but so far, people who posted links have very laggy stream, it's unwatchable.
trunxs stream is still the smoothest.
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Who's still to play tonight?
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On November 20 2010 15:53 rysecake wrote:
Sorry I haven't been in here yet. Where do I go to watch the Tester vs Foxer game?
Ps. GO TESTER!
If it's like past games the chinese vod will pop up on yoku in a few hours and possibly found at sc2rep.com
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trouble trouble shoo shoo shoo koo koo koo
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I am so excited! beats physics homework anyday
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If GOM was generous enough to offer the prelim vods, they should have offered the GSL All-Star vods as well. At least, the ticket purchasers should be able to enjoy it. -___-
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no results in OP makes me a sad panda, time to filter through 30 pages.
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Crapstation first map, bad for T.
IMO when it's this far in the tournament more balanced maps like XNC/Metal should be played more often.
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I feel like GOM put that Chinese guy in just to troll everyone. Like, even if I could understand what he was saying, the Korean announcers just sound way more knowledgeable and exciting.
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Works, but so laggy for me
thanks anyway
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On November 20 2010 16:09 netherDrake wrote:
Crapstation first map, bad for T.
IMO when it's this far in the tournament more balanced maps like XNC/Metal should be played more often.
Fruitdealer had to play Foxer on Lost Temple, and still won. Good players can adapt their styles to different maps, even if one is more balanced towards one race than another. Makes for more interesting games to watch that way, even if it may not be totally fair for the guys competing.
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It works for me too, but it is very laggy, maybe someone who doesn't get the stream laggy can restream? It would very nice not to have to listen that chinese guy -.-
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On November 20 2010 16:09 netherDrake wrote:
Crapstation first map, bad for T.
IMO when it's this far in the tournament more balanced maps like XNC/Metal should be played more often.
Well it is Bo3, so 3 mapes need to be used. Except for those two all other maps favore one race or another.
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It's really laggy for me as well. I wish I could restream without the dub D:
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THE FUCK IS with the chinese guy in the background SIGH
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Thank you very much Stream's fine for me. I hope it's legal though haha
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How come my player goes black when I try to full screen at trunx's stream? Anyone else getting this?
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On November 20 2010 16:16 Weirdkid wrote:Thank you very much Stream's fine for me. I hope it's legal though haha
wtf where do u put the URL..... , open file?
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On November 20 2010 16:16 Weirdkid wrote:Thank you very much Stream's fine for me. I hope it's legal though haha
Maybe you can restream for all of us? please
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oh maka that was bad ... should pay more attention .. the wind got this
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That Chinese guy's voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
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On November 20 2010 16:17 Suffo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 16:16 Weirdkid wrote:Thank you very much Stream's fine for me. I hope it's legal though haha wtf where do u put the URL..... , open file?
Open your gomplayer, right click the screen, mouse over open, should see URL, then just paste it in there.
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Maka top 5 terran in the world? Nah, he is far from Foxer, Boxer and many others.
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man that chinese commentary is horrendous...no offense to anyone but.
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My com isn't good enough to do streaming I'm sorry.
Open -> URL
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Maka stimming all his infantry to chase after mutas... including marauders.
Not good.
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On November 20 2010 16:18 Smoogle wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 16:17 Suffo wrote:On November 20 2010 16:16 Weirdkid wrote:Thank you very much Stream's fine for me. I hope it's legal though haha wtf where do u put the URL..... , open file? Open your gomplayer, right click the screen, mouse over open, should see URL, then just paste it in there.
TY NO MORE CHINESE GUY WHOOOO
but wtf, it lags shitless
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And it's not like TheWind is playing great.
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Man Maka is getting rolled.
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On November 20 2010 16:18 Smoogle wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 16:17 Suffo wrote:On November 20 2010 16:16 Weirdkid wrote:Thank you very much Stream's fine for me. I hope it's legal though haha wtf where do u put the URL..... , open file? Open your gomplayer, right click the screen, mouse over open, should see URL, then just paste it in there.
If your player is in korean and you cant read it, use CTRL + U to open up the url open
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its frustrating watching him contained by Muta harass on scrap, makes for boring one-sided games that last long after its "over" He should have pushed a lot earlier though with the mm but pulled back for some reason.
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who won between FD/FoxeR earlier? spoiler it if someone can for me :D
also anyone know what happened to the korean chick caster that usually sits in the middle
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OP needs to put results
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This works! Thanks! Quoting so people can see!
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but really no one who can restream T___T
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I can't believe they call the mutalisk a flying dragon in chinese -_-, funny translations
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Are there any restreams? Using the gomplayer is lagging terribly for me.
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tbh these new krn commentators aren't as good as the official commentators for the gsl
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Man, TheWind suicided so many mutas, it's not even funny. Yet, he won the game. Maka is just dieing to banelings.
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On November 20 2010 16:22 floorboard wrote:
who won between FD/FoxeR earlier? spoiler it if someone can for me :D
also anyone know what happened to the korean chick caster that usually sits in the middle
+ Show Spoiler +Foxer 2:1
Fruitdealer really needs to sit down and figure out his lair timings vs such aggression.
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Seeing those tanks attack +1 defense lings instead of baneling balls makes me cringe. People are prolly seeing this and thinking terran imba but he is missing crucial things from his marine tank play.
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On November 20 2010 16:23 X_SePHirOtH wrote:
I can't they call the mutalisk a flying dragon in chinese -_-, funny translations
Baneling= Bomb
Mutalisk= Flying Dragon
Zergling= Small Dog
In Chinese, hopefully my chinese isn't too bad.
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On November 20 2010 16:22 floorboard wrote:
who won between FD/FoxeR earlier? spoiler it if someone can for me :D
+ Show Spoiler +
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On November 20 2010 16:22 floorboard wrote:
who won between FD/FoxeR earlier? spoiler it if someone can for me :D
also anyone know what happened to the korean chick caster that usually sits in the middle
+ Show Spoiler +
Female Caster has day off I think, they have a rotation of caster/commentators.
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Interesting Maka doing Foxer tactics while not microing his marines. I can lose with terran like this :D
Also we seen today Foxer start to use Marauders as well to tank blings (and he has as great control with them as with his marines), but other terrans are still making only marines :D
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Guys, can anybody help with the sound of livestream? After the first ad, it goes mute. Every freaking time. I don't have sound. I have it, then the first ad starts and after that, I don't.
What's wrong with livestream/my comp?
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I got this, I got this. Fucking livestream.
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On November 20 2010 16:26 Xxavi wrote:
Guys, can anybody help with the sound of livestream? After the first ad, it goes mute. Every freaking time. I don't have sound. I have it, then the first ad starts and after that, I don't.
What's wrong with livestream/my comp?
Try using the livestream controls to mute and unmute. Worked for me. Chrome, Win7.
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what the heck is Maka doing? Walking up and down ain't gonna win the game.
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On November 20 2010 16:23 Psychatog wrote:This works! Thanks! Quoting so people can see!
lags like sheet though
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Is there a livestream right now? If i use the link, just nothing happens.
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On November 20 2010 13:13 Truefire wrote:We will be streaming the next set of games at 11 PST and we will also be streaming the ro4 and finals tomorrow http://www.livestream.com/trunxs
best stream right now
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TheWind that was ugly (not) dealing with that drop.
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sick building placements.. never seen foreigners do that before! the koreans shock me again!
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wow those drops won the game.
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I'm digging the simcity. That definitely saved him.
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Two good players, but not top of the line. Both are terribly passive. Both had enough time to attack. Both have gaping holes in their play.
Really, not very impressive games, IMO.
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God, the wind is so painful to watch.
I was hoping for him and rainbow to die together yesterday so i dont have to watch them play ever again.
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So what's the score right now. Was that the first game?
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On November 20 2010 16:40 cablesc wrote:
So what's the score right now. Was that the first game?
1-1 now
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Cannot believe the lack of scouting from TheWind. He was expecting an attack for long periods and ended up being always 2 bases vs 2 making a lot of zerglings and banelings. Never got air defense, couldn't do anything to dropships.
From Maka's stand point, he had good moments to attack, but probably he isn't as confident in his micro as Foxer, so he just waited and tried to keep equal base vs TheWind. Still, a better zerg will beat that.
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are there any streams without some random chinese dude talking over it, i like listening to the korean casters much more than him
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On November 20 2010 16:39 Xxavi wrote:
Two good players, but not top of the line. Both are terribly passive. Both had enough time to attack. Both have gaping holes in their play.
Really, not very impressive games, IMO.
I thought maka played extremely well in G2, constantly in a forward position to force little amount of drone production, not suiciding his armies and always denying the third. I think not sending his whole army in on the creep to either win it right there or be in a bad position is what made it really high level play.
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Can you call that a Makarax? Or is it just part of the new Terran early rax builds?
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On November 20 2010 16:41 Xxavi wrote:
Cannot believe the lack of scouting from TheWind. He was expecting an attack for long periods and ended up being always 2 bases vs 2 making a lot of zerglings and banelings. Never got air defense, couldn't do anything to dropships.
From Maka's stand point, he had good moments to attack, but probably he isn't as confident in his micro as Foxer, so he just waited and tried to keep equal base vs TheWind. Still, a better zerg will beat that.
well maka just kept faking attacks, which forces zerg to make units instead of drones. basic play right there, and he kept feigning attacks in order to get ahead while denying expansions. his play was actually extremely good there.
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I think Foxer/MVP are the only top Korean terrans with a good TvZ.
Rainbow/Maka/Ensnare seem to struggle against Zerg.
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i hate chinese voice... they translate zergling as doggy...
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WOW! Apparently the Chinese call the Starport an Airport. I find this very starange, I figured they'd have a different word for starport but i guess 飛機場is all they got.
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omg who is this chinese guy? i can't stand him. don't like the way he speaks, or the things he says. its ruining the show. I have to watch it on mute but i want game sounds!! I don't watch the VODs either because it has the chinese commentary. man im so annoyed
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Thank you so much for non chinese-guy stream. Chinese guy makes me contemplate suicide as a means of ending the ruin my life has become.
Korean commentators are so much better.
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Oh man.... a hard night to be a sc fan...
GomTV oh why, oh why...
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When did this start?
I thought it said 3 AM for the next match, but it's been going on? :\
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Maka is so far behind, but TheWind cannot control his units effectively. What are roaches doing there idly?
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I'm sure both of these guys will roll me in an actual match, but damn are they both making terrible plays right now....
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Why are all restreams and even official stream laggy and near unwatchable? wasn't like this on the other all stars tournament days.
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That seemed to take a long time for TheWind to capitalise on a pretty substantial advantage, game felt like it was over a long time before the gg came.
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On November 20 2010 16:57 SovSov wrote:
When did this start?
I thought it said 3 AM for the next match, but it's been going on? :\
11 PST is 2 AM EST.
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Selena Gomez songs during Starcraft II intermission? What's happening!
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please someone get rid of thewind from this tournament......he's decision making and micro are just so painful to watch.
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On November 20 2010 17:02 Mioraka wrote:
please someone get rid of thewind from this tournament......he's decision making and micro are just so painful to watch.
Yet he still wins. What does that mean?
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On November 20 2010 17:03 positron. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:02 Mioraka wrote:
please someone get rid of thewind from this tournament......he's decision making and micro are just so painful to watch. Yet he still wins. What does that mean?
It means he won.
But he's still painful to watch.
Use logic much?
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On November 20 2010 17:04 Mioraka wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:03 positron. wrote:On November 20 2010 17:02 Mioraka wrote:
please someone get rid of thewind from this tournament......he's decision making and micro are just so painful to watch. Yet he still wins. What does that mean? It means he won. But he's still painful to watch. Use logic much?
psst. i think he was doing some blatant zerg-is-OP trolling.
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when is the next match? only so much i can watch of the same commercial lol
NVM
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Could someone be so kind and update me on the games? Who won etc? Thanks!
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Are hydras actually used in SC2? I can't remember the last time I saw them lol.
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wait did Tester and Genius go at it already?
holy check....is there a way to stop this lag when you use the gomplayer?
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On November 20 2010 17:02 Mioraka wrote:
please someone get rid of thewind from this tournament......he's decision making and micro are just so painful to watch.
I thought his desicion making was good, when maka was slow pushing towards the 9o'clock expo he chose to sac it, send his drones to the 3o'clock and counter attack at Maka's main. Ultimately he wasn't in a great position at the time but that desicion definitely won him the game.
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results
+ Show Spoiler +Foxer 2-1 Fruitdealer
Tester 2-1 Genius
TheWind 2-1 Makaprime
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On November 20 2010 17:08 iNversion wrote:
Foxer 2-1 Fruitdealer
Tester 2-1 Genius
TheWind 2-1 Makaprime
Kyrix 2-1 BoxeR?
No offense, but BoxeR's TvZ is pretty bad.
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get to see how Boxer fares against Kyrix's hyper aggressive zerg
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Boxer ain't gonna win this, no way. Maybe if it was a much weaker zerg.
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On November 20 2010 17:08 iNversion wrote:results + Show Spoiler +Foxer 2-1 Fruitdealer
Tester 2-1 Genius
TheWind 2-1 Makaprime
thanks.
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On November 20 2010 17:09 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:08 iNversion wrote:
Foxer 2-1 Fruitdealer
Tester 2-1 Genius
TheWind 2-1 Makaprime Kyrix 2-1 BoxeR? No offense, but BoxeR's TvZ is pretty bad.
I think Kyrix is probably a favourite, but Boxer may have improved his TvZ since the GSL. Kyrix plays completely differently from Nestea, which could work for or against him. Either way, the winner of this game will probably beat TheWind and make it to the finals.
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On November 20 2010 17:09 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:08 iNversion wrote:
Foxer 2-1 Fruitdealer
Tester 2-1 Genius
TheWind 2-1 Makaprime Kyrix 2-1 BoxeR? No offense, but BoxeR's TvZ is pretty bad.
Kyrix might 2-0 him. This guy is known for bling spamming.
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On November 20 2010 17:08 Gezz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:02 Mioraka wrote:
please someone get rid of thewind from this tournament......he's decision making and micro are just so painful to watch. I thought his desicion making was good, when maka was slow pushing towards the 9o'clock expo he chose to sac it, send his drones to the 3o'clock and counter attack at Maka's main. Ultimately he wasn't in a great position at the time but that desicion definitely won him the game.
In G2 he couldnt make up his mind to defend the front of the back so he got his whole base killed by a small amount of units.
And then after losing the game he cant decide to attack or not when he lost his whole fucking base.
In LT against rainbow, he tried to attack the thor healed by SCVs, sure do it, and then he decides to retreat......dude wtf.....
Sure he won, but he's strategic decision making is kind of terrible, kept losing units due to wrong decision.
I'm not talking about the entire game strategy, it just seems like he can't make good split second decisions......a thing that most good players can do, like FD and Foxer.
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The odds for todays matches on Xlbet:
BoxerPrime 2.07 - 1.68 TSL_FruitDealer1.68
NsP_Genius 1.80 - 1.90 TSL_sSKS
oGsTheWind 2.00 - 1.73 MakaPrime
KyrixZenith 2.10 - 1.65 SlayerSBoxeR
Gogo Kyrix!
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when is the next matchup?
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lawl. they pan across the crowd and I see 1 redheaded foreigner. Wonder if its Torch . . . .
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Nooooo ,BOXER should have attacked right away. =[[ big misstake
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God the chinese translator is so annoying.
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What was Boxer doing defending with his 8 hellions =/
Ugh.... Zerg had NO roach warren, NO spine crawlers, nothing but lings and drones at his bases vs. 8 blue-flame hellions and BoxeR didn't even capitalize...
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Fucckkkkk that was such a sick strat by boxer too
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On November 20 2010 17:30 Pekkz wrote:
Nooooo ,BOXER should have attacked right away. =[[ big misstake
I think that build has potential, at least.
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Wow. Classic case of I made all these units and then did NOTHING with them. He could've roasted every drone in both bases before the first roach poped.
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oh no boxer could have won this one...
bad decisionmaking... he attacked too late with his hellions...
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Scrap station
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lol why would he make hellions at all?
Pretty sure all s-class players would never lose to something like that.
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Kyrix showed us why he's kyrix.
Not only banelings, he's also an expert in good old "losing your whole fucking base" transition.
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I was disappointed in Boxer's play. He had 9 blue flame hellions that he danced around the map with instead of crushing Kyrix's economy.
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Made too many and didn't send them right away...
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Hurts seeing Kyrix win games, he's awful.
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On November 20 2010 17:34 klauz619 wrote:
lol why would he make hellions at all?
Pretty sure all s-class players would never lose to something like that.
Because he almost won with it? It completetly countered the baneling/speedling bust that he knew was coming(infamous kyrix style), and if he built bunkers on top of his ramp instead of the bottom he could have won that easily.
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lol, no lag stream? There is a whole ton of lag.... It's watchable but really it's so awful...
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dont get any inspiration watchin this =( dunno if they just show the wrong korean terrans and others play any better but that is depressingly bad
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Boxer gave Kyrix too much credit and kept scouting for a follow up force of banelings / zerglings that never existed
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On November 20 2010 17:35 cuppatea wrote:
Hurts seeing Kyrix win games, he's awful.
haha, you have no idea what terrible is.
Have you watched one of your own replays and compared it with one of Kyrix's?
Anyways go Kyrix, dethrone the Emperor!
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Boxer was painfully late, but his criticism is in hindsight. He had no idea if the ramp is protected and/or if Kyrix had enough roaches already. He wanted a mediavac support.
Though again, he attacked even after seeing roaches, so that does not make much sense.
Anyway, I expected Kyrix to win. Boxer is not very good vZ, and Kyrix is very hard to stop for any Terran, I'd imagine, with his characteristic aggressive style.
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On November 20 2010 17:38 Xxavi wrote:
Anyway, I expected Kyrix to win. Boxer is not very good vZ, and Kyrix is very hard to stop for any Terran, I'd imagine, with his characteristic aggressive style.
Xxavi is right.
Anyways On Scrap station I like the barracks placement. That choke near the destructible debris is a very good spot.
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Damn huge mistake of kyrix with only 2 queens, really atrocious to have only 2 queens, i hope he still defends this :/
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That Ebay might come a bit late, hopefully the Emperor will manage to hold off this Muta harass.
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poor macro by boxer. had like 1000 minerals 500+gas during banshee harass.
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Boxer could have done a lot more damage with those Banshees...it took him forever to actually attack any Drones. I never realised Queens build so fast...Kyrix has too much stuff now, don't think Boxer can come back =/
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That muta split was pretty hilarious
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Kyrix splitting the mutas in order to find Boxer's banshee, but doesn't find it
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Boxer is disappointing me So many muta, think it's over..
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Kyrix's army looks so scary atm.
Millions of lings / banelings / roaches / mutalisks.
Boxer dropping marauders and marines EVERYWHERE at the same time (main, nat, third)
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gg boxers out
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Wow, BoxeRs TvZ in sc2 is disappointing to me but he is still the ultimate harass master-..
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Too many roaches and mutalisks. Boxer is out.
I must say that Kyrix got really good macro.
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Looked like Boxer was wiping off some blood off his nose, when he left the booth. I think Kyrix hit him hard :p
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Boxer... why do you lead with tanks when pushing into Z territory... instead of with marauders? This isn't TvT with a huge no-mans land when its tank vs tank wars.
I've seen him make that mistake so many times, which loses him the tanks instantly and then the battle.
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why the hell did he try to attack? He had killed SO many drones, and had a safe planetary fortress expo up. IT didnt make sence at all.
He lost the game, got into a good position again by some miracle. Then just marches inn with tanks first for no reason=[ Boxer has some amazing strategys , but that game it just wasnt executed very well.
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On November 20 2010 17:52 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
this over?
Just finished for today.
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On November 20 2010 17:52 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
this over?
Yeh for today.
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On November 20 2010 17:51 TheDna wrote:
Looked like Boxer was wiping off some blood off his nose, when he left the booth. I think Kyrix hit him hard :p
that was kyrix actually i think
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Kyrix had the gold for too long i think.. was able to macro all those roaches and mutas.
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Gah, his play was quite epic in the end I must say. Wonderful drops. If he didnt make that error at the end, I think he would of had it
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On November 20 2010 17:52 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
this over?
Can making OP's and then not updating them get a warning? Otherwise, why even have an OP?
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Kyrix had 3000+ minerals when Boxer started harassing him
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Oh yes...moniez for me :-) Thank you Kyrix! awesome games!
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i thought boxer had it with the banshees
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So Foxer vs Tester and TheWind vs Kyrix tomorrow?
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The 2port banshees had the potential for more damage seeing as he researched cloak but apparently never used the ability. Both games boxer actually came really close to beating kyrix but a couple of bad/slow decisions cost him. at least his tvz looks to be improving slightly.
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On November 20 2010 17:53 Terrifyer wrote:
Gah, his play was quite epic in the end I must say. Wonderful drops. If he didnt make that error at the end, I think he would of had it
He never stood a chance at all.
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I think at that point he already lost the game.
The fact is, Kyrix is a great player. He showed much better game than TheWind, who was indecisive with his attacks, timings and just generally passive. Kyrix plays with no fear in his eyes. He was getting killed by banshees, but that didn't stop him from expanding right away once he got mutas. To the gold.
A player like Idra would have ragequitted or gg-ed instantaneously if he saw that many banshees coming to him and killing his queens.
I would rank Kyrix very high up, along with NesTea and Fruitdealer, and higher than TheWind. I don't know where Zenio and Idra rank.
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Yeah you have to give credit to Kyrix, he did play a good series (again).
He's known for aggression, but as we saw in game 2 he can also play a macro style very effectively. I don't think we've ever seen Kyrix play a ZvZ, have we? I think he should be too good for TheWind, but anything can happen in a ZvZ bo3...
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IMO BoxeRs play had too much passivity, maybe it's because of getting all those thors, but yeah I think he shoulda been able to really punish that third earlier.
That's the problem I have when going thors in tvz, after they mass enough roach/muta + shit it is hard to stop. But then again I'm a noob who just likes to theorycraft when his favourite player loses.
Still he even made that a game with his ultimate harass abilities. Really delightful to watch.
Surely going deep in the GSL again.
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On November 20 2010 15:25 udgnim wrote:
it looks like the Chinese stream has some Chinese player playing on the Korean server
Chinese player looks to be playing pretty fast, but got owned by storms in a PvZ
next game Chinese player gets owned by proxy pylon warp-in on Scrap Station :D
that's a 900 diamond Chinese random player, who work for the website(casting). they show the games for fun.
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Random trivia:
Chinese commentator called the banshees "Avatars" referring to the gunships in the movie.
Boxer is referred to as Brother Bao.
Zerg is called the "Bug Race", zerglings "puppies/little dogs"
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TBH I feel vikings are better to harass zerg than banshees. 4-5 vikings can totally screw the zergs supply, and also they are helpful in fighting off mutalisks along with marine support. Plus they cost lower gas as well.
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On November 20 2010 17:58 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
IMO BoxeRs play had too much passivity, maybe it's because of getting all those thors, but yeah I think he shoulda been able to really punish that third earlier.
That's the problem I have when going thors in tvz, after they mass enough roach/muta + shit it is hard to stop. But then again I'm a noob who just likes to theorycraft when his favourite player loses.
Still he even made that a game with his ultimate harass abilities. Really delightful to watch.
Surely going deep in the GSL again.
I am not too sure, but I think once he made all those banshees and lost them, and also Kyrix's mutas killed a bunch of SCVs, Boxer was forced to play defensive. He was already behind. He could risk to go out and attack, but that would be an all in, because mutas can come back and just kill all SCVs,
I though he defended well, even expanded and killed Kyrix's expo. May be he should have continued turtling, but Kyrix was far ahead, may be he was feeling the pressure.
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On November 20 2010 18:00 Piledriver wrote:
TBH I feel vikings are better to harass zerg than banshees. 4-5 vikings can totally screw the zergs supply, and also they are helpful in fighting off mutalisks along with marine support. Plus they cost lower gas as well.
Helpless vs queens, curb stomped by mutas, gimped vs ground.
No, they aren't good vs zerg.
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On November 20 2010 17:58 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
IMO BoxeRs play had too much passivity, maybe it's because of getting all those thors, but yeah I think he shoulda been able to really punish that third earlier.
That's the problem I have when going thors in tvz, after they mass enough roach/muta + shit it is hard to stop. But then again I'm a noob who just likes to theorycraft when his favourite player loses.
Still he even made that a game with his ultimate harass abilities. Really delightful to watch.
Surely going deep in the GSL again.
I feel the same way. Thors are great on Lost temple for drops etc, and for stopping muta harass. But once zerg gets enough roaches/muta they just seem useless. I wonder if we will see couple ghosts to just stop the muta harass again. They are good to snipe banelings aswell.
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On November 20 2010 17:37 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:35 cuppatea wrote:
Hurts seeing Kyrix win games, he's awful. haha, you have no idea what terrible is. Have you watched one of your own replays and compared it with one of Kyrix's? Anyways go Kyrix, dethrone the Emperor!
Obviously I'm comparing Kyrix to world class SC2 players and not myself when I say that he's awful and obviously "awful" is an exaggeration. I just think he's a fairly mediocre semi-pro who is currently being propped up by the state of ZvT and will fall off the map when 1 and 2 base all in'ing every game stops working against competent Terran players (and yes I know he managed to get off 2 base this game and won a somewhat macro game but he was completely unprepared for the banshees and would have lost then if Boxer had just killed queens and drones instead of the spire).
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On November 20 2010 17:56 Xxavi wrote:
I think at that point he already lost the game.
The fact is, Kyrix is a great player. He showed much better game than TheWind, who was indecisive with his attacks, timings and just generally passive. Kyrix plays with no fear in his eyes. He was getting killed by banshees, but that didn't stop him from expanding right away once he got mutas. To the gold.
A player like Idra would have ragequitted or gg-ed instantaneously if he saw that many banshees coming to him and killing his queens.
I would rank Kyrix very high up, along with NesTea and Fruitdealer, and higher than TheWind. I don't know where Zenio and Idra rank.
I think Zenio/Nestea/Fruit are the 3 best Zergs atm, followed by Idra and maybe Ret/Kyrix/theWind.
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On the contrary, I liked Kyrix's games. Watch what Nestea and TheWind had to offer. NesTea was awful against Genius, I felt. Well, at least for a winner of GSL2 he was awful, really terrible games.
TheWind wasn't too bad, but he was not as good as Kyrix, IMO.
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On November 20 2010 18:05 cuppatea wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:37 Shinta) wrote:On November 20 2010 17:35 cuppatea wrote:
Hurts seeing Kyrix win games, he's awful. haha, you have no idea what terrible is. Have you watched one of your own replays and compared it with one of Kyrix's? Anyways go Kyrix, dethrone the Emperor! Obviously I'm comparing Kyrix to world class SC2 players and not myself when I say that he's awful and obviously "awful" is an exaggeration. I just think he's a fairly mediocre semi-pro who is currently being propped up by the state of ZvT and will fall off the map when 1 and 2 base all in'ing every game stops working against competent Terran players (and yes I know he managed to get off 2 base this game and won a somewhat macro game but he was completely unprepared for the banshees and would have lost then if Boxer had just killed queens and drones instead of the spire).
I'm sorry when did Kyrix 1/2 base all-in? Why is it seen by many snobby players as cheesy for a zerg to be aggressive. Kyrix didn't all in at all, he even played a macro game. He wasn't unprepared for the banshees, he held them off with queens until his mutas popped. Sure he could have microd his queens better, but that's splitting hairs. I think it's refreshing to see an aggressive Zerg player. I'm tired of watching games where the Zerg just hold off attacks until they get a max'ed army. Being aggressive while expanding is not all-ining, I'm sorry.
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I think kyrix and Foxer represents the new generation, and they are the same type of players.
Super aggressive, addiction to one certain unit (banelings vs. marines), good split second decision making.
No one seems to give enough credit to their macro, since it's always the endless attacks that get the attention, but I think their macro is actually really solid. Hence why they can keep making streams of units and overrun their opponents.
Of the two, foxer seems to have superior micro, but I'd say kyrix have better macro, with his good expansion timing.
I would LOVE to see both of them duking it out in the final. Due to their super aggressive styles they tend to produce great games in their encounters. Their G5 in GSL is actually the only game that deserved the 5stars.
Although I would still want ssks to make it through, but I want to see some super intense games.
BUT, PLEASE SOMEONE, KILL THAT FREAKING THEWIND GUY, HE"S TERRIBLE.
Oh, final props to kyrix, I think in his dictionary, "defence" never existed, it's replaced by "counter attack". Damn I love him.
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On November 20 2010 18:05 cuppatea wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:37 Shinta) wrote:On November 20 2010 17:35 cuppatea wrote:
Hurts seeing Kyrix win games, he's awful. haha, you have no idea what terrible is. Have you watched one of your own replays and compared it with one of Kyrix's? Anyways go Kyrix, dethrone the Emperor! Obviously I'm comparing Kyrix to world class SC2 players and not myself when I say that he's awful and obviously "awful" is an exaggeration. I just think he's a fairly mediocre semi-pro who is currently being propped up by the state of ZvT and will fall off the map when 1 and 2 base all in'ing every game stops working against competent Terran players (and yes I know he managed to get off 2 base this game and won a somewhat macro game but he was completely unprepared for the banshees and would have lost then if Boxer had just killed queens and drones instead of the spire).
Lol that last game wasn't an all in. He was actually on the brink of death that game (his spire went down), but pulled through with macro to win it.
Id also like to state that going all in with the roaches like that on Metalopolis, was a sound decision. Boxer had invested a lot of money in to his hellions, so he didn't have a particularly strong army. He had a good army for harass but not one to stop push.
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Too bad that TheWind seems to be the better ZvZ player. I'd love to see a Foxer vs Kyrix rematch.
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I want sSKS to win the tourney, but I'd rather watch another Foxer/Kyrix match, that was the most entertaining series in the history of SC2 so far.
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On November 20 2010 18:13 GP wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 18:05 cuppatea wrote:On November 20 2010 17:37 Shinta) wrote:On November 20 2010 17:35 cuppatea wrote:
Hurts seeing Kyrix win games, he's awful. haha, you have no idea what terrible is. Have you watched one of your own replays and compared it with one of Kyrix's? Anyways go Kyrix, dethrone the Emperor! Obviously I'm comparing Kyrix to world class SC2 players and not myself when I say that he's awful and obviously "awful" is an exaggeration. I just think he's a fairly mediocre semi-pro who is currently being propped up by the state of ZvT and will fall off the map when 1 and 2 base all in'ing every game stops working against competent Terran players (and yes I know he managed to get off 2 base this game and won a somewhat macro game but he was completely unprepared for the banshees and would have lost then if Boxer had just killed queens and drones instead of the spire). I'm sorry when did Kyrix 1/2 base all-in? Why is it seen by many snobby players as cheesy for a zerg to be aggressive. Kyrix didn't all in at all, he even played a macro game. He wasn't unprepared for the banshees, he held them off with queens until his mutas popped. Sure he could have microd his queens better, but that's splitting hairs. I think it's refreshing to see an aggressive Zerg player. I'm tired of watching games where the Zerg just hold off attacks until they get a max'ed army. Being aggressive while expanding is not all-ining, I'm sorry.
Agreed, he was a little unprepared for banshees tho. However, boxer played a mind game with that 2 rax opening, he even did have some pretty good overlord scouting, but with boxer's building positions he was unable to scout the starports. No one can really blame him with that.
Also, for game one his decision to counter attack won him the game. It's so pleasant to see someone that has "attack" flowing in his vines. Comparing to TheWind who never seems to be able to make up his mind, kyrix is so much more entertaining to watch.
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On November 20 2010 18:11 netherDrake wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:56 Xxavi wrote:
I think at that point he already lost the game.
The fact is, Kyrix is a great player. He showed much better game than TheWind, who was indecisive with his attacks, timings and just generally passive. Kyrix plays with no fear in his eyes. He was getting killed by banshees, but that didn't stop him from expanding right away once he got mutas. To the gold.
A player like Idra would have ragequitted or gg-ed instantaneously if he saw that many banshees coming to him and killing his queens.
I would rank Kyrix very high up, along with NesTea and Fruitdealer, and higher than TheWind. I don't know where Zenio and Idra rank. I think Zenio/Nestea/Fruit are the 3 best Zergs atm, followed by Idra and maybe Ret/Kyrix/theWind.
I heard only great things about Ret and I cannot wait to see him in GSL3. However, at the moment, it's too early to put him in the same level as Kyrix, who is S class and even in this tourney showing it's no fluke. He took out Ensnare and Boxer pretty one sidedly.
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On November 20 2010 18:11 netherDrake wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 17:56 Xxavi wrote:
I think at that point he already lost the game.
The fact is, Kyrix is a great player. He showed much better game than TheWind, who was indecisive with his attacks, timings and just generally passive. Kyrix plays with no fear in his eyes. He was getting killed by banshees, but that didn't stop him from expanding right away once he got mutas. To the gold.
A player like Idra would have ragequitted or gg-ed instantaneously if he saw that many banshees coming to him and killing his queens.
I would rank Kyrix very high up, along with NesTea and Fruitdealer, and higher than TheWind. I don't know where Zenio and Idra rank. I think Zenio/Nestea/Fruit are the 3 best Zergs atm, followed by Idra and maybe Ret/Kyrix/theWind.
At the moment it's probably too early to put Kyrix amongst the top tier, but his play has impressed me so far. I think our perception of who is the best will change after GSL3 regardless.
I guess Nestea and Fruit have to be considered the two best Zergs at the moment.
In the second tier I would put Kyrix, Zenio and maybe Check.
In the next tier I would put Idra/TheWind and then there are a whole lot of players who may or may not prove themselves in GSL3, namely Ret/Sen/Moon/July/Leenock etc
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On November 20 2010 18:19 FuRong wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 18:11 netherDrake wrote:On November 20 2010 17:56 Xxavi wrote:
I think at that point he already lost the game.
The fact is, Kyrix is a great player. He showed much better game than TheWind, who was indecisive with his attacks, timings and just generally passive. Kyrix plays with no fear in his eyes. He was getting killed by banshees, but that didn't stop him from expanding right away once he got mutas. To the gold.
A player like Idra would have ragequitted or gg-ed instantaneously if he saw that many banshees coming to him and killing his queens.
I would rank Kyrix very high up, along with NesTea and Fruitdealer, and higher than TheWind. I don't know where Zenio and Idra rank. I think Zenio/Nestea/Fruit are the 3 best Zergs atm, followed by Idra and maybe Ret/Kyrix/theWind. At the moment it's probably too early to put Kyrix amongst the top tier, but his play has impressed me so far. I think our perception of who is the best will change after GSL3 regardless. I guess Nestea and Fruit have to be considered the two best Zergs at the moment. In the second tier I would put Kyrix, Zenio and maybe Check. In the next tier I would put Idra/TheWind and then there are a whole lot of players who may or may not prove themselves in GSL3, namely Ret/Sen/Moon/July/Leenock etc
Ret?
I guess we agree completely then.
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On November 20 2010 18:13 GP wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 18:05 cuppatea wrote:On November 20 2010 17:37 Shinta) wrote:On November 20 2010 17:35 cuppatea wrote:
Hurts seeing Kyrix win games, he's awful. haha, you have no idea what terrible is. Have you watched one of your own replays and compared it with one of Kyrix's? Anyways go Kyrix, dethrone the Emperor! Obviously I'm comparing Kyrix to world class SC2 players and not myself when I say that he's awful and obviously "awful" is an exaggeration. I just think he's a fairly mediocre semi-pro who is currently being propped up by the state of ZvT and will fall off the map when 1 and 2 base all in'ing every game stops working against competent Terran players (and yes I know he managed to get off 2 base this game and won a somewhat macro game but he was completely unprepared for the banshees and would have lost then if Boxer had just killed queens and drones instead of the spire). I'm sorry when did Kyrix 1/2 base all-in? Why is it seen by many snobby players as cheesy for a zerg to be aggressive. Kyrix didn't all in at all, he even played a macro game. He wasn't unprepared for the banshees, he held them off with queens until his mutas popped. Sure he could have microd his queens better, but that's splitting hairs. I think it's refreshing to see an aggressive Zerg player. I'm tired of watching games where the Zerg just hold off attacks until they get a max'ed army. Being aggressive while expanding is not all-ining, I'm sorry.
Count how many games he played last season where he would expand, make a handful of drones and then just pump nothing but lings, banelings and roaches and try to kill his 2 base opponent. Of course that's all-in because if you don't at least cause severe damage you're way behind and lose.
It's not even particularly impressive aggression that he does. When Foxer was splitting his marines with incredible micro, how often did you see Kyrix splitting his banelings? And yesterday against Ensnare he was just throwing banelings away, wasting 5 at a time killing empty bunkers and shit.
He doesn't play a defensive macro game because his mechanics are garbage, just keep an eye on his resource count, even when he has barely any drones (which is almost always) his minerals skyrocket.
Apart from having a fairly unique and aggressive style (which is facilitated by the current balance of the game) I don't see anything he does well compared to the best Zergs out there. I'm not a fan of Idra's ultra defensive, pure macro style of play but then I don't like Kyrix's style of spamming the z and b keys and right clicking on his opponent's base either. Long term, for the good of the game, I'd like to think somewhere in between the 2 will yield the best results and guys like Kyrix will be left behind.
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Kyrix is exciting to watch. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Vods not up on sc2rep. Anywhere else? I wanna watch Kyrix vs BoxeR
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so how did these matches end ? (not in OP )
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+ Show Spoiler +Foxer 2-1 Fruit Dealer
Tester 2-1 Genius
oGsTheWinD 2-1 MakaPrime
KyrixZenith 2-0 SlayerSBoxer
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It would be great to see Tester win this, that would bring a ton of confidence to replace the doubt of not qualifying the past two seasons.
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So when is the Ro4 going to be at? I thought I heard it would be tonight, but I'm assuming thats wrong
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G-Star Starcraft II All-Star Match Round of 4
Watch on GOMTV (http://ch.gomtv.com/414)
( 15 hours, 6 minutes )
oh noes wanted boxer/foxer =(
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damn sleeped all the morning :/ any suggest game?
thanks :D
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On November 20 2010 20:40 Ingruz wrote:
damn sleeped all the morning :/ any suggest game?
thanks :D
Foxer last game and genius tester draw game ...
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Any idea where i can watch the vods?
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On November 20 2010 20:46 Ixas wrote:
Any idea where i can watch the vods?
www.sc2rep.com
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wow thanks for this site!
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Thanks for this.If only there wasn't some dumb guy talking over the koreans it would've been perfect :/.
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trying to load from that japanese site from sc2rep... it takes quite long, but sometimes its fast. Anyone knows the trick?
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Add the results in the OP please .
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On November 20 2010 21:15 Holy.BR wrote:
trying to load from that japanese site from sc2rep... it takes quite long, but sometimes its fast. Anyone knows the trick?
it's a chinese site..
and no it's not loading for me either
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Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy.
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www.sc2p.com and http://sc2.replays.net/ are also good chinese sites, usually have streaming with chinese commentary, i'm too lazy to look for this event but maybe u guys can check it out
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On November 20 2010 21:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy.
Yea but tester is not obligated to attack either. They can just sit there forever because Genius cant really kill testers buildings either. I think the draw in that scenario is justified.
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On November 20 2010 21:55 Angelbelow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 21:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy. Yea but tester is not obligated to attack either. They can just sit there forever because Genius cant really kill testers buildings either. I think the draw in that scenario is justified.
Yes he can. Granted it would take a looong time but it would happen.
Edit: I mean obviously he was scared at how many DTs Tester might have, but that was a big mistake he should've known that there was very few from what he was seeing.
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On November 20 2010 21:55 Angelbelow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 21:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy. Yea but tester is not obligated to attack either. They can just sit there forever because Genius cant really kill testers buildings either. I think the draw in that scenario is justified.
Of course Genius could kill the buildings. He had blink stalkers and stalkers run faster than DTs. For me it was BM from Tester and Genius was dumb to let it go.
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On November 20 2010 22:10 Holy.BR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 21:55 Angelbelow wrote:On November 20 2010 21:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy. Yea but tester is not obligated to attack either. They can just sit there forever because Genius cant really kill testers buildings either. I think the draw in that scenario is justified. Of course Genius could kill the buildings. He had blink stalkers and stalkers run faster than DTs. For me it was BM from Tester and Genius was dumb to let it go.
The reason he agreed to a draw (we assume) is because he didn't know how many DTs were out there. If there were say 4 DTs, then it's a huge risk to move his Stalkers to attack. Even if he left say 3 Stalkers to defend and attack with the others, Tester could run 4 DTs in and snipe the Cannon, thus winning the game. Yes, Tester actually only had 2 DTs but Genius didn't know that, and had no way of finding out without risking losing the game. In this case, he probably felt that accepting the draw was his only choice.
And I hate to quote myself, but this is the reasoning I posted earlier in the thread:
You're forgetting that Protoss buildings regenerate shields. It's not like Genius could just chip away at the buildings slowly, because the DTs will come to chase him, meaning he has to run away, and then the shields on the buildings regenerate some more etc. It would be impossible to kill the buildings without bringing at least 3-4 Stalkers imo, and it would be too risky to leave only 2-3 behind to defend considering that he didn't know how many DTs were out there.
Hope this helps to explain.
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On November 20 2010 22:09 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 21:55 Angelbelow wrote:On November 20 2010 21:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy. Yea but tester is not obligated to attack either. They can just sit there forever because Genius cant really kill testers buildings either. I think the draw in that scenario is justified. Yes he can. Granted it would take a looong time but it would happen. Edit: I mean obviously he was scared at how many DTs Tester might have, but that was a big mistake he should've known that there was very few from what he was seeing.
Oh yes because I'm sure Genius was more than happy to risk drawing out the game to at least an hour + just so everyone could watch such mind-numbingly stupid action
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On November 20 2010 22:33 Dakkas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 22:09 Klive5ive wrote:On November 20 2010 21:55 Angelbelow wrote:On November 20 2010 21:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy. Yea but tester is not obligated to attack either. They can just sit there forever because Genius cant really kill testers buildings either. I think the draw in that scenario is justified. Yes he can. Granted it would take a looong time but it would happen. Edit: I mean obviously he was scared at how many DTs Tester might have, but that was a big mistake he should've known that there was very few from what he was seeing. Oh yes because I'm sure Genius was more than happy to risk drawing out the game to at least an hour + just so everyone could watch such mind-numbingly stupid action
No. So he could win the game.
It would be Testers fault for not leaving too.
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Can the OP please update the results? THanks!
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Tester could have just held positioned those DT's at the base of his ramp at sat there 'till Genius left.
The draw was justified imo because not only was it legitimately a stalemate but Genius didn't know how many DT's Tester had.
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On November 20 2010 22:42 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 22:33 Dakkas wrote:On November 20 2010 22:09 Klive5ive wrote:On November 20 2010 21:55 Angelbelow wrote:On November 20 2010 21:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy. Yea but tester is not obligated to attack either. They can just sit there forever because Genius cant really kill testers buildings either. I think the draw in that scenario is justified. Yes he can. Granted it would take a looong time but it would happen. Edit: I mean obviously he was scared at how many DTs Tester might have, but that was a big mistake he should've known that there was very few from what he was seeing. Oh yes because I'm sure Genius was more than happy to risk drawing out the game to at least an hour + just so everyone could watch such mind-numbingly stupid action No. So he could win the game. It would be Testers fault for not leaving too.
You really really really are not thinking on this. You've all been told the exact reasons why a draw was best
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On November 20 2010 23:04 Dakkas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 22:42 Klive5ive wrote:On November 20 2010 22:33 Dakkas wrote:On November 20 2010 22:09 Klive5ive wrote:On November 20 2010 21:55 Angelbelow wrote:On November 20 2010 21:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy. Yea but tester is not obligated to attack either. They can just sit there forever because Genius cant really kill testers buildings either. I think the draw in that scenario is justified. Yes he can. Granted it would take a looong time but it would happen. Edit: I mean obviously he was scared at how many DTs Tester might have, but that was a big mistake he should've known that there was very few from what he was seeing. Oh yes because I'm sure Genius was more than happy to risk drawing out the game to at least an hour + just so everyone could watch such mind-numbingly stupid action No. So he could win the game. It would be Testers fault for not leaving too. You really really really are not thinking on this. You've all been told the exact reasons why a draw was best
Nothing you've said makes any sense at all.
Genius had the game won and took a draw instead. It was a mistake.
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Why is there only three games of tester vs genius? Don't tell me that the draw game isn't uploaded. That would be just idiotic.
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The third game includes both game 3 (draw) and game 4.
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Nothing you've said makes any sense at all.
Genius had the game won and took a draw instead. It was a mistake.
Yes. You're right and everyone else in here and the players themselves are wrong.
Just remember this. Hindsight is 20/20 vision.
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On November 20 2010 21:02 nafta wrote:Thanks for this.If only there wasn't some dumb guy talking over the koreans it would've been perfect :/.
My thoughts exactly.... That chinese (?) caster is so annoying...
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Is there any way to download replays ? tbh i cba watching vods with korean commentators
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anyone with the results? and a short description of the game please!
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On November 20 2010 23:36 Dakkas wrote:Show nested quote +Nothing you've said makes any sense at all.
Genius had the game won and took a draw instead. It was a mistake. Yes. You're right and everyone else in here and the players themselves are wrong. Just remember this. Hindsight is 20/20 vision.
So in hindsight he should have won.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
And plenty of people in this thread agree with me.
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On November 20 2010 23:39 DeseaseR wrote:
anyone with the results? and a short description of the game please!
Results spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +FD 1-2 FoxeR
Genius 1-2 Tester
Maka 1-2 TheWind
BoxeR 0-2 Kyrix
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+ Show Spoiler + Sad to see fruitdealer lose those. Game 3, he could have defended had he had better positioning for the final push. He spent too long undecided on where to put his banelings and they were all in 1 control group :S! Also, the tech building placement near the rocks was just bad!
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On November 20 2010 23:39 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 23:36 Dakkas wrote:Nothing you've said makes any sense at all.
Genius had the game won and took a draw instead. It was a mistake. Yes. You're right and everyone else in here and the players themselves are wrong. Just remember this. Hindsight is 20/20 vision. So in hindsight he should have won. That's exactly what I'm saying. And plenty of people in this thread agree with me.
Tester blocks the ramp with the 2 DTs so the stalkers don't have vision and can't get blink past.
What does Genius do?
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On November 20 2010 23:50 Dakkas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 23:39 Klive5ive wrote:On November 20 2010 23:36 Dakkas wrote:Nothing you've said makes any sense at all.
Genius had the game won and took a draw instead. It was a mistake. Yes. You're right and everyone else in here and the players themselves are wrong. Just remember this. Hindsight is 20/20 vision. So in hindsight he should have won. That's exactly what I'm saying. And plenty of people in this thread agree with me. Tester blocks the ramp with the 2 DTs so the stalkers don't have vision and can't get blink past. What does Genius do?
Which game of the series was this, or rather in between which two? I want to see what all the fuss is about :p
Tester fighting :0
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is there any chance in watching these games instead of this chinese site on sc2rep? its impossible to watch it there
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On November 20 2010 23:50 Dakkas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 23:39 Klive5ive wrote:On November 20 2010 23:36 Dakkas wrote:Nothing you've said makes any sense at all.
Genius had the game won and took a draw instead. It was a mistake. Yes. You're right and everyone else in here and the players themselves are wrong. Just remember this. Hindsight is 20/20 vision. So in hindsight he should have won. That's exactly what I'm saying. And plenty of people in this thread agree with me. Tester blocks the ramp with the 2 DTs so the stalkers don't have vision and can't get blink past. What does Genius do?
You can't block a ramp with 2 DTs vs blink stalkers.
Even if you could Genius had plenty of time to get a stalker into the main with one of the DTs attacking his base. He had 2 stalkers in Testers base for a long time too.
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anyone by chance have vod of the genius / tester matches?
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On November 20 2010 23:57 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 23:50 Dakkas wrote:On November 20 2010 23:39 Klive5ive wrote:On November 20 2010 23:36 Dakkas wrote:Nothing you've said makes any sense at all.
Genius had the game won and took a draw instead. It was a mistake. Yes. You're right and everyone else in here and the players themselves are wrong. Just remember this. Hindsight is 20/20 vision. So in hindsight he should have won. That's exactly what I'm saying. And plenty of people in this thread agree with me. Tester blocks the ramp with the 2 DTs so the stalkers don't have vision and can't get blink past. What does Genius do? You can't block a ramp with 2 DTs vs blink stalkers. Even if you could Genius had plenty of time to get a stalker into the main with one of the DTs attacking his base. He had 2 stalkers in Testers base for a long time too.
How many stalkers did he have though, like 4? He would have to be extremely careful with them and very very slowly kill the buildings while kiting DT's that he can't see. One misstep would cost him the game. Not to mention the game would probably go on forever to finish off tester's base. He probably didnt want to take any chances and decided to take the draw.
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i'm pretty sure he had like 8 blink stalker vs 2 dts? he could've sent 4 to just shoot down all the buiildings, but he didn't risk it, the judges should've told him to either try and split his army or its draw
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On November 21 2010 00:19 happyness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 23:57 Klive5ive wrote:On November 20 2010 23:50 Dakkas wrote:On November 20 2010 23:39 Klive5ive wrote:On November 20 2010 23:36 Dakkas wrote:Nothing you've said makes any sense at all.
Genius had the game won and took a draw instead. It was a mistake. Yes. You're right and everyone else in here and the players themselves are wrong. Just remember this. Hindsight is 20/20 vision. So in hindsight he should have won. That's exactly what I'm saying. And plenty of people in this thread agree with me. Tester blocks the ramp with the 2 DTs so the stalkers don't have vision and can't get blink past. What does Genius do? You can't block a ramp with 2 DTs vs blink stalkers. Even if you could Genius had plenty of time to get a stalker into the main with one of the DTs attacking his base. He had 2 stalkers in Testers base for a long time too. How many stalkers did he have though, like 4? He would have to be extremely careful with them and very very slowly kill the buildings while kiting DT's that he can't see. One misstep would cost him the game. Not to mention the game would probably go on forever to finish off tester's base. He probably didnt want to take any chances and decided to take the draw.
7. More than enough to both defend and attack with. The question is, if he knew exactly how many DT's he was actually fighting. If he was under the impression that 3 DT's could pop at his cannon any second, his defense is totally justified.
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horrible judging in my opinion
ya maybe ur right he didn't know
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You can't block a ramp with 2 DTs vs blink stalkers.
Even if you could Genius had plenty of time to get a stalker into the main with one of the DTs attacking his base. He had 2 stalkers in Testers base for a long time too.
And here's the second part
He doesn't know how many DTs Tester has
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actually... i think he should've blocked the damn cannon with 3 stalkers... he could;ve just used 1 stalker to shoot down building, rest defend then the judges might of saw it differently
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So I installed that Chinese application to watch the stream in the OP, but now I'm getting these Chinese ads pop up. Anyone know how to deal with this?
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Either players have to revolutionize PvP or we have to wait for an expansion to fix this match-up
1base colossus 4 warpgate vs 1base colossus 4 warpgate is fun to watch
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Needs to be in korea to watch.
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An aside, so Foxer legitamately has ID changed to MarineKing? I guess I can call him MK.
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is there any way to check how long until the next match? thanks.
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On November 21 2010 03:31 Ricemagical wrote:
is there any way to check how long until the next match? thanks.
Use the calendar. Eight hours.
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On November 20 2010 23:46 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 23:39 DeseaseR wrote:
anyone with the results? and a short description of the game please!
Results spoiler: + Show Spoiler +FD 1-2 FoxeR
Genius 1-2 Tester
Maka 1-2 TheWind
BoxeR 0-2 Kyrix
Thanks!!!
+ Show Spoiler +Boxer lost nice to see FoxeR advancing at least
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On November 21 2010 02:00 AyJay wrote:
Either players have to revolutionize PvP or we have to wait for an expansion to fix this match-up
1base colossus 4 warpgate vs 1base colossus 4 warpgate is fun to watch
I found it very suspicious that they went the same build as each other in every game. Game 1 both 4 gate, game 2 both fast colossi, game 3 both blink stalker. It's like they talked about it before hand and decided not to use their newer or more creative builds, at least I hope.
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On November 21 2010 00:31 Dakkas wrote:Show nested quote +You can't block a ramp with 2 DTs vs blink stalkers.
Even if you could Genius had plenty of time to get a stalker into the main with one of the DTs attacking his base. He had 2 stalkers in Testers base for a long time too. And here's the second part He doesn't know how many DTs Tester has
So scout the map with 1 Stalker?
He knows it's a low number. He was in Testers base and there was only 1 attacking him. And he can see there's only 1 DT attacking his own base. So if Tester has more then he's hiding them (which would be unlikely).
Leave 6 stalkers initally blocking the cannon while 1 scouts the map and kills buildings.
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OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post.
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Hmm it looks like Nestea may be the more solid zerg than Fruitdealer. Cool kept trying his fast 3rd with no lair or any tech way into mid-game and dying. He skimped too much on defenses vs the aggressive Foxer again.
What I don't get is why zergs don't just pull a Kwanro whenever they scout Foxer doing his 2rax marine rush. They keep throwing low amounts of slow-lings into Foxer's marine micro. It's probably better to get gas, make a bunch of speedlings and Kwanroll Foxer while he's retreating to set up his CC.
Tester vs Genius was pretty close. I can see why Genius regards him highly even though he failed to qualify twice. I lol'ed at how the two absolute top Protosses went 4gate vs each other in the first game.
Kyrix is apparently on his way to becoming a monster. First he perfects lings/banelings, now he's moving on to roaches, and so on... Love this guy.
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Genius deserved the third game more than Tester.
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On November 21 2010 03:47 Moragon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 02:00 AyJay wrote:
Either players have to revolutionize PvP or we have to wait for an expansion to fix this match-up
1base colossus 4 warpgate vs 1base colossus 4 warpgate is fun to watch I found it very suspicious that they went the same build as each other in every game. Game 1 both 4 gate, game 2 both fast colossi, game 3 both blink stalker. It's like they talked about it before hand and decided not to use their newer or more creative builds, at least I hope.
do you not realize protoss doesn't have many viable builds? they both probably decided which builds would be strongest for each map, and both being skilled protoss players came up with similar builds.
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On November 21 2010 04:05 entlassen wrote:
OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post.
Agreed, terrible OP. Take a look at Kevinace's thread, or even take a page from MotBob's GSL 3 Qualifiers. The OP should be updated after every game/set.
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I honestly think Boxer could have won against Kyrix if he had better decision making.
There was a huge timing with the hellion after he fended off the baneling bust. He hesitated for a full half a minute before doing anything. If he was worried that Kyrix may be hiding another baneling group, he should have split his 9 hellions, send 2 to scout the surrounding and 6 to harass. If he was worried about a roach switch, he should have switched to marauder right after pumping 9 hellions out. If he had two bunkers worth of marauders at his nat and teched to banshee faster, he wouldn't have lost like that.
In the second game, Kyrix made the big mistake of having only two queens, one in each base, and not react after seeing the banshees. That was an auto loss right there. Foxer won against Kyrix with the exact same build, there was no excuse for Boxer to have harassed so ineffectively, killing almost no drones and only queens and losing his first two banshees due to poor micro. He had 4 bunkers to defend against that roach push, he didn't need to park 2 banshees at his choke for a full minute. Even if he felt the need to do so, why not just use one banshee to ATTACK that roach army instead? And send the other banshee to harass the main. Wasn't the point of those two barracks and 4 bunkers delaying the roach army till the banshees have essentially killed all the drones and spire? After that, doesn't matter what the Roaches are killing. Boxer can just lift the buildings and kill all the roaches with the banshees.
God, for the first time in my life, I must say that I am disappointed with Boxer. He did incorporate some boxer-esque play with the building placements, the sexy dropship usages. But everything that he did seemed to have missed some sort of timing window. He was always 15 seconds late on everything.
I blame Boxer's poor performance on his lack of a team. He is basically training off only laddering.
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On November 21 2010 04:51 nikj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 04:05 entlassen wrote:
OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post. Agreed, terrible OP. Take a look at Kevinace's thread, or even take a page from MotBob's GSL 3 Qualifiers. The OP should be updated after every game/set.
Need to add a rule that only people with a certain amount of post #'s can create threads for third-party tournaments.
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I think the Genius vs Tester match just goes to show how ridiculously even these two are.
I am a Tester fan myself but play more to Genius' style of somewhat safe somewhat boring.
Genius and MC both knew that Tester was the only competition in terms of naming the top Protoss in the world even though he did not qualify twice. Man I don't understand how people can say he's garbage (close enough), he didn't even qualify twice in a row. By the results he's shown in this tournament he's STILL a RO 8 GSL player, his skill hasn't diminished, he's just been incredibly unlucky. If this tournament has told us anything it's that TesteR deserves to be in the GSL as he's beating really solid opposition CONVINCINGLY. I Just hope that TesteR can sit down and actually focus on the holes in his build, though it is demotivating when Protoss is somewhat underpowered at the moment but that shouldn't stop him from outplaying his opponents. I think he should revert to a more safe playstyle because he is mechanically as good as anyone but chooses to go off into these super risky builds which is why he probably never qualified this GSL.
Ahhh TesteR, when your at your best, I can't see you losing to anyone. But it's so rare people actually think you're overrated. Damn, I sure as heck hope you win this thing man. Protoss and more importantly YOU need this. Good Luck.
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BoxeR is overrated. Again, he's RO32 material, doesn't have the APM/multitasking ability to do what he wants.
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On November 21 2010 04:51 nikj wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 04:05 entlassen wrote:
OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post. Agreed, terrible OP. Take a look at Kevinace's thread, or even take a page from MotBob's GSL 3 Qualifiers. The OP should be updated after every game/set.
You realize the point of a thread is to discuss, not to live update you on everything you're too lazy to look up for yourself?
And also, that if the OP hadn't made this thread, literally hundreds of people wouldn't have been able to watch these games.
Quit being assholes.
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On November 21 2010 10:14 Uncultured wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 04:51 nikj wrote:On November 21 2010 04:05 entlassen wrote:
OP: Please don't start a new thread for future events. If you're not going to take the time to update with results and ratings, then don't post. Agreed, terrible OP. Take a look at Kevinace's thread, or even take a page from MotBob's GSL 3 Qualifiers. The OP should be updated after every game/set. You realize the point of a thread is to discuss, not to live update you on everything you're too lazy to look up for yourself? And also, that if the OP hadn't made this thread, literally hundreds of people wouldn't have been able to watch these games. Quit being assholes.
The point of tournament threads is not only to provide a place for live discussion, but to record results for posterity. The next day, the next week, or even a year from now when somebody wants to find out the results of these matches, this thread will come up first on the list, and its OP should give them everything they need so they have to slog through often 50-200+ pages of crap. This is the hallmark of a good OP, and most TL tournament threads are like this.
If this particular OP hadn't made his post, one of thousands of others in the community would have. There is a tradition on TL where the first thread about a tourney becomes the official discussion thread, but the expectation is that the OP's job is to then make quality updates. The fact of the matter is this OP sniped the creation of this thread hours before the event started but clearly had no intention to update it. The only explanation is that he just wants to seek attention for himself to be "the guy who made the thread." If he's not going to do a proper update, then he should leave it to one of many other willing fans in the community.
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Well don't you feel all entitled. It's great that you think everyone should know these "understood forum rules and traditions". But you're literally kicking a gift horse in the teeth. You're literally complaining about not having information fed to you on a silver platter because you think this is how it should always be done.
The dude made a thread that allowed tons and tons of people to watch this event that wouldn't have been able to; and you say he shouldn't have made the thread at all.
The world doesn't revolve around you and you imaginary rules man.
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On November 21 2010 10:05 Crt wrote:
BoxeR is overrated. Again, he's RO32 material, doesn't have the APM/multitasking ability to do what he wants.
This is just plain stupid and ignorant.
Obviously he is one of the top players right now. He qualified for everything, where is NaDa with his 500 APM? (no offence to NaDa, game is pretty crazy atm!)
There is no distinct best player in StarCraft 2 right now, they all developing, they have to develop because there is so many good players.
Anyway entertaining value is amazing!!! And Kyrix is pretty monstrous, you have to really be cool to hold off his pressure and be able to expand as BoxeR did.
I just started following Starcraft2 two months ago (didnt follow BW) and I'm lovin it!.
ps. Fav players: Genius, SlayerSBoxeR and Kyrix, I guess Kyrix must win now!
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On November 21 2010 10:31 Uncultured wrote:
Well don't you feel all entitled. It's great that you think everyone should know these "understoood" forum rules. But you're literally kicking a gift horse in the teeth. You're literally complaining about not have information fed to you on the silver platter because you think it should be so, because this is "how it's always been done"
The dude made a thread that allowed tons and tons of people to watch this event that wouldn't have been able too. And you say he shouldn't have made the thread at all.
The world doesn't revolve around you and you imaginary rules man.
Do you seriously think that if "the dude" hadn't made this thread nobody else would have? You call a few shitty, lazy lines something from a Gift Horse? If the dude is going to snipe the thread hours before the tourney started to do the most half-assed bare-minimum job possible just to have his name on the first post, then grats to him I guess! But man does it sure suck for the community!
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On November 21 2010 10:40 entlassen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 10:31 Uncultured wrote:
Well don't you feel all entitled. It's great that you think everyone should know these "understoood" forum rules. But you're literally kicking a gift horse in the teeth. You're literally complaining about not have information fed to you on the silver platter because you think it should be so, because this is "how it's always been done"
The dude made a thread that allowed tons and tons of people to watch this event that wouldn't have been able too. And you say he shouldn't have made the thread at all.
The world doesn't revolve around you and you imaginary rules man. Do you seriously think that if "the dude" hadn't made this thread nobody else would have? If the dude is going to snipe the thread hours before the tourney started to do the most half-assed bare-minimum job possible just to have his name on the first post, then grats to him I guess! But man does it sure suck for the community!
The point here, is that this guy made a thread, that was made solely to help people find a re-stream, and let people know the event was going to happen. That purpose was met. Just because you think that things should be added to the OP, doesn't mean that the threads original intended purpose was not met.
What if someone else HAD made the thread? What if it had results but no re-stream to find the games and watch them? There's no way to know what would have happened.
You should be happy with what you got, not unhappy with what you didn't. Because you have no idea what else you would have gotten instead. Hell you might not have gotten anything.
Be happy you got something at all. Don't act all entitled and start defaming the OP.
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On November 21 2010 10:52 Uncultured wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 10:40 entlassen wrote:On November 21 2010 10:31 Uncultured wrote:
Well don't you feel all entitled. It's great that you think everyone should know these "understoood" forum rules. But you're literally kicking a gift horse in the teeth. You're literally complaining about not have information fed to you on the silver platter because you think it should be so, because this is "how it's always been done"
The dude made a thread that allowed tons and tons of people to watch this event that wouldn't have been able too. And you say he shouldn't have made the thread at all.
The world doesn't revolve around you and you imaginary rules man. Do you seriously think that if "the dude" hadn't made this thread nobody else would have? If the dude is going to snipe the thread hours before the tourney started to do the most half-assed bare-minimum job possible just to have his name on the first post, then grats to him I guess! But man does it sure suck for the community! The point here, is that this guy made a thread, that was made solely to help people find a re-stream, and let people know the event was going to happen. That purpose was met. Just because you think that things should be added to the OP, doesn't mean that the threads original intended purpose was not met. What if someone else HAD made the thread? What if it had results but no re-stream to find the games and watch them? There's no way to know what would have happened. You should be happy with what you got, not unhappy with what you didn't. Because you have no idea what else you would have gotten instead. Hell you might not have gotten anything. Be happy you got something at all. Don't act all entitled and start defaming the OP.
You highly underestimate the TL community. Do you actually believe there would be a scenario where out of thousands of fans of this site, nobody would post restream info?
I think you fail to understand that TL is a community, not just some random forums like Blizzard's SC2 forums. Standards for posting aren't imaginary rules. Browse through the Closed Threads section and see many such tourney threads with shitty OPs that were disposed by the admins. This one managed to get away, but if this event were an important GSL/OSL/MSL event, you can be sure that you'd have hundreds of people shitting all over him in a heartbeat!
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If someone can make a post that doesn't have results, it doesn't also seem reasonable for someone to make a post without streams? You're asking for information to be added to the original post, not for other people to update it later in the thread.
You even admit that you're shitting on the OP... Literally flaming him now... Because he forgot to update the thread with results. And then you state that everyone should be flaming him because he forgot to update with results.....
For all you know the poor original poster if dead, and you're flaming a dead man for not posting updates.
I really have to say it again: Feel entitled much?
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the rule that OP should update the post is stupid.
OP posts because no one else made the post, so everyone can discuss a match before hand.
Many times, I want to hype a match, but there's no thread started, so I have to shut my enthusiasm. I thank whoever makes the thread, updated or not.
If someone else want to update, he/she is free to make his/her own posts, and make it early enough so 1) others shouldn't have to make another one and 2) so that people can discuss the posts asap.
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People should dedicate a couple of trusted Moderators who has the responsibility to update their original post.
For normal users, don't expect anyone of us to update ours.
Trusted mods who fail to post the thread early enough, are free to make a new thread, who's stopping you.
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What Crt just said.... That's the ticket.
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On November 21 2010 11:07 Crt wrote:
the rule that OP should update the post is stupid.
OP posts because no one else made the post, so everyone can discuss a match before hand.
Many times, I want to hype a match, but there's no thread started, so I have to shut my enthusiasm. I thank whoever makes the thread, updated or not.
If someone else want to update, he/she is free to make his/her own posts, and make it early enough so 1) others shouldn't have to make another one and 2) so that people can discuss the posts asap.
The TL StarCraft 2 Tournament forum is moderated and the admins would never allow what you propose to happen for the following reasons::
1) If everybody is allowed to make a new thread every time they felt like it, the forums would be filled with multiple threads on the same topic. The result would be garbage, like Blizzard's forums. The strength of the TL SC2 Tournament forum is that each tournament has a consolidated thread for easy access to information.
2) Given that the admins only allow one post per tournament event to exist, telling people to post earlier and earlier and earlier is a slippery slope. Do you really want to force people who want to make quality threads to have to play the sniping game? It would get to the point where the minute after GSL RO64 Day1 ends you'd have to make the Day 2 thread or risk having some shitty poster snipe it.
Better to have it the way it is now: Make a thread if you think you can at least give it the default quality (match results, link to live stream and vods/replays if they exist), and if you're too lazy then leave it to somebody else. Nobody is telling you to go hog-wild with pictures, star ratings, and interviews (though the best posts do, and they are a treat), but at least do the bare minimum. There are tons of people in the community who will gladly do it, as is demonstrated every day.
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On November 21 2010 11:07 entlassen wrote:You seem to think that the expectations of the community are because people feel entitled and that such rules are imaginary. Seriously, the one reason why TL is such a great community is because the members have high standards. Go look at this example, read through the comments including the last post, and then click on the link in the last post by the admin that leads you to a better example. Example of Shitty OP, closed by admins: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165509OP that replaced it, linked by admin on last post of prev link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165676
That one was deleted because the OP promised to do something but didn't follow through. This OP didn't promise antything and simply made the topic because nobody had made it yet.
Get a life man
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On November 21 2010 11:22 happyness wrote:That one was deleted because the OP promised to do something but didn't follow through. This OP didn't promise antything and simply made the topic because nobody had made it yet. Get a life man
No, that one was deleted because the poster had a history of making shitty OPs for tournament events and people caught on and got sick of him ruining it for everyone. Hence my original post telling this thread's OP to post better threads in the future or leave it to somebody else.
Also, most OPs here usually get made because nobody else made it yet. But sniping the creation hours earlier than everybody just to get your name on the first post is lame as hell.
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I understand what you're saying. I still fully disagree. There are lots of solution for not having the thread in time. Normal users who don't see any "quality" thread started should be able to start one without being expected to update. An example of solution is to have a certain time limit. There are times the game has started, but still, no thread in sight, and everyone else is too afraid to get flamed if they start a not-to-be-updated one.
Anyway, I'm one of those who think the Mods are abusing their power and I'm also not interested in this conversation. Later.
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On November 21 2010 11:29 Crt wrote:
I understand what you're saying. I still fully disagree. There are lots of solution for not having the thread in time. Normal users who don't see any "quality" thread started should be able to start one without being expected to update. An example of solution is to have a certain time limit. There are times the game has started, but still, no thread in sight, and everyone else is too afraid to get flamed if they start a not-to-be-updated one.
Anyway, I'm one of those who think the Mods are abusing their power and I'm also not interested in this conversation. Later.
You don't want mods to have power, yet you want to give them more power by making them enforce time limits and shit. Ok.
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Tester 4-gates on Scrap, hides pylon on high ground next to Boxer's nat. Kills CC, Boxer counter-drops, then gg's out when it is cleaned up. 1-0 Tester.
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Map 2, Metal. Close by air.
Foxer proxy rax at his third, scouting probe misses it. NM SCOUTED.
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On November 21 2010 11:49 VikingKong wrote:
Map 2, Metal. Close by air.
Foxer proxy rax at his third, scouting probe misses it. NM SCOUTED.
Foxer vs FruitDealer? FD playing protoss?
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On November 21 2010 12:09 SilverLeagueElite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 11:49 VikingKong wrote:
Map 2, Metal. Close by air.
Foxer proxy rax at his third, scouting probe misses it. NM SCOUTED. Foxer vs FruitDealer? FD playing protoss?
no, tester vs. foxer, FD already lost to foxer.
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hey im sorry if this is already answered somewhere but theres a shit load of pages here to check, can anyone tell me when is the next round gonna be played? what time? who vs who? - -
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has foxer played tester yet?
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Sucks first post hasnt been updated now I have to dig through the topic for results
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On November 21 2010 12:55 dapierow wrote:Sucks first post hasnt been updated now I have to dig through the topic for results
+ Show Spoiler +finals is foxer vs kyrix
foxer won 2-1
kyrix won 2-0
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so I guess most of us have to wait for sc2rep's restream?? is that the only way to watch it
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On November 21 2010 13:24 powerdawg96 wrote:
so I guess most of us have to wait for sc2rep's restream?? is that the only way to watch it
this guy streams it
3rd place match in a hour and finals in 2 hours
http://www.livestream.com/trunxs
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Foxer got this. The games that he lost to Kyrix were to baneling busts. Surely he learned his lesson.
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On November 21 2010 14:50 dukethegold wrote:
Foxer got this. The games that he lost to Kyrix were to baneling busts. Surely he learned his lesson.
You mean surely every zerg should already know that foxer does 2 rax marine+scv push pretty much every game :D
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Why would you attack with your SCV's when your Thors are being focusfired
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wasent worth staying up for. time to go to bed
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On November 20 2010 22:10 Holy.BR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2010 21:55 Angelbelow wrote:On November 20 2010 21:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Wow I can't believe NexGenius took a draw! He had that game won all he has to do is micro his stalkers. Crazy. Yea but tester is not obligated to attack either. They can just sit there forever because Genius cant really kill testers buildings either. I think the draw in that scenario is justified. Of course Genius could kill the buildings. He had blink stalkers and stalkers run faster than DTs. For me it was BM from Tester and Genius was dumb to let it go.
I disagree. Genius does not know how many DTs tester really has. If he moves out and tester kills that cannon then its over. hes not no way to detect.
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hmm, vods? couldnt find any
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EPT
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