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On November 17 2010 05:00 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 04:58 Shiragaku wrote:
Who is Aya exactly? I am assuming he has a lot of late due to the OP's 6233478347875389 rank. He knocked out HuK.
Yes we all know that but who IS Aya? Like is he just some high diamond dude, what is his real ranking cause there isn't 6233478347875389 people in the world as of yet. Is he some small scene korean player?
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sorry but SelecT, i never thought would qualify instantly.. give it another season
both HuK and SelecT will
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Is that aya being rank 6233478347875389 thing a dig at huk for losing to a no namer? That's not very nice.
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On November 17 2010 05:03 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 04:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:On November 17 2010 04:29 FabledIntegral wrote:
What? Why would you miss a single GSL tourney to go attend a single foreign tourney with significantly less stakes? Am I missing something? It is a valid argument. MLG and IEM often happen over the span of 3 days and the competitor field is much smaller. Yet winning them gets you a lot of recognition and thus not just prize money but also sponsorship potential. There is a lot to be said to choosing the foreign tournaments over the GSL if you are not capable of winning GSL. Shoot for the stars try to achieve the highest possible means you play GSL. Realize you won't win GSL but are very good; you could make a choice to play foreign tournaments because there are more of them, the level is lower and the exposure is still good, and who doesn't like winning over getting knocked out in Ro16s. There are many factors to consider and it's not as simple as looking at the prizepool. Another factor thing to consider is that being in Korea will raise your level of play giving you more chance to win stuff in the long run, whether it's foreign or Korean. One more thing is variance. GSL you have one shot per month. No matter how good you are there is a chance you will fail at that shot. The more tournaments you play the less variance and the more security in your life. So maybe in a month where there are two major tournies in a single month, but honestly how often does that happen (fyi, I have NO idea)? And if they aren't in the same location, they're having to pay travel fares, etc. while GSL is free, no? And don't you also make money from merely getting into the Ro64 in the GSL? So at least it's some income, opposed to having to pay for flight costs to travel across the globe to compete in something where although you have a better chance, you're guaranteed nothing (also, assuming).
living in korea is fairly expensive also going from canada to korea costs a lot more than going to USA for a tournament like MLG, also more foreigner's expected value is prob higher at MLG than GSL
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On November 17 2010 04:51 Ocedic wrote:The level of play at MLG is a joke compared to GSL.
You're kidding, right?
The average level of play throughout the tournament might favor GSL, but not by any significant amount to justify calling it a "joke".
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On November 17 2010 05:14 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 04:51 Ocedic wrote:The level of play at MLG is a joke compared to GSL. You're kidding, right? The average level of play throughout the tournament might favor GSL, but not by any significant amount to justify calling it a "joke".
To say the skill levels don't vary by any significant amount is equally ridiculous.
The MLG skill level was very high, definitely not a "joke", but there's definitely a significant difference between that and the GSL. This makes complete sense when you compare the locations and prize pools of each tournament
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On November 17 2010 05:14 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:03 FabledIntegral wrote:On November 17 2010 04:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:On November 17 2010 04:29 FabledIntegral wrote:
What? Why would you miss a single GSL tourney to go attend a single foreign tourney with significantly less stakes? Am I missing something? It is a valid argument. MLG and IEM often happen over the span of 3 days and the competitor field is much smaller. Yet winning them gets you a lot of recognition and thus not just prize money but also sponsorship potential. There is a lot to be said to choosing the foreign tournaments over the GSL if you are not capable of winning GSL. Shoot for the stars try to achieve the highest possible means you play GSL. Realize you won't win GSL but are very good; you could make a choice to play foreign tournaments because there are more of them, the level is lower and the exposure is still good, and who doesn't like winning over getting knocked out in Ro16s. There are many factors to consider and it's not as simple as looking at the prizepool. Another factor thing to consider is that being in Korea will raise your level of play giving you more chance to win stuff in the long run, whether it's foreign or Korean. One more thing is variance. GSL you have one shot per month. No matter how good you are there is a chance you will fail at that shot. The more tournaments you play the less variance and the more security in your life. So maybe in a month where there are two major tournies in a single month, but honestly how often does that happen (fyi, I have NO idea)? And if they aren't in the same location, they're having to pay travel fares, etc. while GSL is free, no? And don't you also make money from merely getting into the Ro64 in the GSL? So at least it's some income, opposed to having to pay for flight costs to travel across the globe to compete in something where although you have a better chance, you're guaranteed nothing (also, assuming). living in korea is fairly expensive also going from canada to korea costs a lot more than going to USA for a tournament like MLG, also more foreigner's expected value is prob higher at MLG than GSL
Thing is apparently GSL is very accomodating for the players going over, and some are sponsored to go over, no?
I also believe the cost of living in S. Korea is lower than the US, but that's only a guess going from how the average salary is lower.
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MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/
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Good to see ret !
I think he can fastly be the best foreigner
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sad i wanted select to make it =[
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On November 17 2010 05:23 CrAzEdBaDgEr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:14 Talin wrote:On November 17 2010 04:51 Ocedic wrote:The level of play at MLG is a joke compared to GSL. You're kidding, right? The average level of play throughout the tournament might favor GSL, but not by any significant amount to justify calling it a "joke". To say the skill levels don't vary by any significant amount is equally ridiculous. The MLG skill level was very high, definitely not a "joke", but there's definitely a significant difference between that and the GSL. This makes complete sense when you compare the locations and prize pools of each tournament
so your argument against making easy money is that the money is too easy?
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On November 17 2010 05:06 red_hq wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:00 Zzoram wrote:On November 17 2010 04:58 Shiragaku wrote:
Who is Aya exactly? I am assuming he has a lot of late due to the OP's 6233478347875389 rank. He knocked out HuK. Yes we all know that but who IS Aya? Like is he just some high diamond dude, what is his real ranking cause there isn't 6233478347875389 people in the world as of yet. Is he some small scene korean player?
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1964_Aya
he was in GSL2 and took a game off Inca in ro64
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So boxer, foxer and kyrix are in the same group C? So they'll play each other before ro8 ??
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On November 17 2010 05:24 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:14 Fayth wrote:On November 17 2010 05:03 FabledIntegral wrote:On November 17 2010 04:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:On November 17 2010 04:29 FabledIntegral wrote:
What? Why would you miss a single GSL tourney to go attend a single foreign tourney with significantly less stakes? Am I missing something? It is a valid argument. MLG and IEM often happen over the span of 3 days and the competitor field is much smaller. Yet winning them gets you a lot of recognition and thus not just prize money but also sponsorship potential. There is a lot to be said to choosing the foreign tournaments over the GSL if you are not capable of winning GSL. Shoot for the stars try to achieve the highest possible means you play GSL. Realize you won't win GSL but are very good; you could make a choice to play foreign tournaments because there are more of them, the level is lower and the exposure is still good, and who doesn't like winning over getting knocked out in Ro16s. There are many factors to consider and it's not as simple as looking at the prizepool. Another factor thing to consider is that being in Korea will raise your level of play giving you more chance to win stuff in the long run, whether it's foreign or Korean. One more thing is variance. GSL you have one shot per month. No matter how good you are there is a chance you will fail at that shot. The more tournaments you play the less variance and the more security in your life. So maybe in a month where there are two major tournies in a single month, but honestly how often does that happen (fyi, I have NO idea)? And if they aren't in the same location, they're having to pay travel fares, etc. while GSL is free, no? And don't you also make money from merely getting into the Ro64 in the GSL? So at least it's some income, opposed to having to pay for flight costs to travel across the globe to compete in something where although you have a better chance, you're guaranteed nothing (also, assuming). living in korea is fairly expensive also going from canada to korea costs a lot more than going to USA for a tournament like MLG, also more foreigner's expected value is prob higher at MLG than GSL Thing is apparently GSL is very accomodating for the players going over, and some are sponsored to go over, no? I also believe the cost of living in S. Korea is lower than the US, but that's only a guess going from how the average salary is lower.
Yes but a lot of these guys live with their parents back home, so they go from paying no rent to a bunch of rent+expenses.
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no select?!?! 
what happened to carefoot btw?
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So did July Zerg make it or not?
I am assuming he did not?
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On November 17 2010 05:24 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 05:14 Fayth wrote:On November 17 2010 05:03 FabledIntegral wrote:On November 17 2010 04:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:On November 17 2010 04:29 FabledIntegral wrote:
What? Why would you miss a single GSL tourney to go attend a single foreign tourney with significantly less stakes? Am I missing something? It is a valid argument. MLG and IEM often happen over the span of 3 days and the competitor field is much smaller. Yet winning them gets you a lot of recognition and thus not just prize money but also sponsorship potential. There is a lot to be said to choosing the foreign tournaments over the GSL if you are not capable of winning GSL. Shoot for the stars try to achieve the highest possible means you play GSL. Realize you won't win GSL but are very good; you could make a choice to play foreign tournaments because there are more of them, the level is lower and the exposure is still good, and who doesn't like winning over getting knocked out in Ro16s. There are many factors to consider and it's not as simple as looking at the prizepool. Another factor thing to consider is that being in Korea will raise your level of play giving you more chance to win stuff in the long run, whether it's foreign or Korean. One more thing is variance. GSL you have one shot per month. No matter how good you are there is a chance you will fail at that shot. The more tournaments you play the less variance and the more security in your life. So maybe in a month where there are two major tournies in a single month, but honestly how often does that happen (fyi, I have NO idea)? And if they aren't in the same location, they're having to pay travel fares, etc. while GSL is free, no? And don't you also make money from merely getting into the Ro64 in the GSL? So at least it's some income, opposed to having to pay for flight costs to travel across the globe to compete in something where although you have a better chance, you're guaranteed nothing (also, assuming). living in korea is fairly expensive also going from canada to korea costs a lot more than going to USA for a tournament like MLG, also more foreigner's expected value is prob higher at MLG than GSL Thing is apparently GSL is very accomodating for the players going over, and some are sponsored to go over, no? I also believe the cost of living in S. Korea is lower than the US, but that's only a guess going from how the average salary is lower.
yea but that doesnt apply to major cities. by that logic moscow should be dirt cheap when in reality its one of the most expensive cities in the world.
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On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote:
MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/
hmmm im not too sure about that -.-
maybe kinda close though
gap certainly isn't anywhere near that of bw, but nevertheless there is a visible gap
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Wait, why are Boxer and NaDa having to qualify?
Didn't they get CodeS last season?
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EPT
