EPT[GSL] S3 Qualifiers D2 - Page 285
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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pencilcase
United States330 Posts
On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote: MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/ Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right? Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG. | ||
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k20
United States342 Posts
On November 17 2010 05:59 Gumbeez wrote: So did July Zerg make it or not? I am assuming he did not? Which you'd be wrong because in the list of those who qualified, it says VealSteak ((Z)July) | ||
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javy_
United States1677 Posts
On November 17 2010 06:03 DaemonX wrote: Wait, why are Boxer and NaDa having to qualify? Didn't they get CodeS last season? Code-S is for the 2011 GSL season | ||
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thesauceishot
Canada333 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote: Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right? Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG. Huk? heh. Better as in, more interesting to watch. I can count on 1 hand how many games at the end of this GSL went past 20 minutes. If short timing pushes are the way of the future and winning large tourneys, whatever, but it will never be as interesting to watch for the masses as the "Terrible mlg players" long, macro games. | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
TL is scary. Foreigners have power, I guess. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Huk (lost to Aya) Cella (lost to TankboyPrime) Tester sanZenith (lost to KyrixZenith) SeleCT That list depresses me to no end. Not only do more good protoss get spanked, many of the top foreigners are out. Edit: Oh and what is a joke is comparing the GSL to the MLG. The MLG had a lot of great players, but as you can see a lot of those players who win western tournies, or consistently beat top foreigners, can't even get past the ro128. That is pretty significant. | ||
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pencilcase
United States330 Posts
On November 17 2010 06:14 Fa1nT wrote: Huk? heh. Better as in, more interesting to watch. I can count on 1 hand how many games at the end of this GSL went past 20 minutes. If short timing pushes are the way of the future and winning large tourneys, whatever, but it will never be as interesting to watch for the masses as the "Terrible mlg players" long, macro games. Oh then I agree, but that's totally Blizzard's fault and not the players. Zerg is just way too OP in the late game right now, so until Terran and Protoss are buffed at the end and Zerg is buffed in the beginning we will keep having these 10 minute marine rush fests. Honestly Blizzard is in a lot of trouble because they don't have enough time to implement changes without disrupting tournaments, but the current state of the game is pretty broken. Maybe they'll get out a patch this week before the Round of 64 starts so that Protoss can actually win some games. | ||
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Darhaja
United States108 Posts
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out4blood
United States313 Posts
On November 17 2010 04:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: It is a valid argument. MLG and IEM often happen over the span of 3 days and the competitor field is much smaller. Yet winning them gets you a lot of recognition and thus not just prize money but also sponsorship potential. There is a lot to be said to choosing the foreign tournaments over the GSL if you are not capable of winning GSL. Put this in the context of the original comment. The guy was asking why Tester (or someone like him) doesn't play elsewhere. For him the best tournament and sponsorship opportunities will be in Korea, not elsewhere. Nowhere else does it pay to be a pro-gamer like it does in Korea. | ||
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Rebornlife
Canada224 Posts
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dutpotd
Canada49 Posts
On November 17 2010 06:22 out4blood wrote: Nowhere else does it pay to be a pro-gamer like it does in Korea. Correct, this is also the answer to some of the comparisons earlier in the thread between MLG/GSL, namely it does not come as a surprise that the Korean scene is more competitive (note how I don't say Korean's are flat out better), money is what drives competitive play as it is strongly correlated to the time any player can invest into getting better. Really looking forward to seeing if/how MLG, Dreamhack, ESL, etc. and non-Korean Esports evolves around Starcraft 2 in the near and distant future, as patches/expansions are released. I think as many of our favorites didn't make the top 64 GSL cut, foreigners did pretty well this season relatively speaking. It isn't possible for everyone to make it, 64 is a pretty limited number of spots, and we all know by now the qualifiers and their groupings/pools can often pit top players against one another well before they would otherwise meet if seeding was in place. I'm not complaining though, this makes things quite interesting, and throws us observers out when trying to figure out 'who is better than who'. I hope that Huk, Select, Kiwi, Torch, and all of the other foreigners take their failed qualifying attempt constructively because I'd love to see them all continue to compete in Korea and around the world in future high calibre events. I'm sure they will. | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote: Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right? Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG. "random average terran" he's 51st on korean ladder, qualified for gsl2, he's no slouch this compares to QXC 2-0ing hopetorture (the only person to get to the ro8 of both GSLs) in KotB. | ||
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Gorguts
Canada254 Posts
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CrAzEdBaDgEr
Canada166 Posts
On November 17 2010 05:37 Sfydjklm wrote: so your argument against making easy money is that the money is too easy? Not sure what you're talking about, I was just talking about the skill gap (not huge, but significant). As for easy money, traveling from Korea to the USA, staying a few days, winning a few thousand bucks that's not 100% guaratneed even if you're the strong favorite, then traveling back doesn't sound like easy money to me even if the tournament win was essentially a lock. | ||
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Delamos
United States32 Posts
Close to 60% of protoss. 38% Terran. 25% Zerg.............Seems a tad bit sad for the toss fan boys...... Started out as - Terran : 39.5% Protoss : 33% Zerg : 23.9% Random : 3.6% Ended as......- Terran : 39% Protoss : 18.75% Zerg : 40.6% Random : 1.5% | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
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DaRkFrosT
United States407 Posts
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CrAzEdBaDgEr
Canada166 Posts
On November 17 2010 06:14 Fa1nT wrote: Huk? heh. Better as in, more interesting to watch. I can count on 1 hand how many games at the end of this GSL went past 20 minutes. If short timing pushes are the way of the future and winning large tourneys, whatever, but it will never be as interesting to watch for the masses as the "Terrible mlg players" long, macro games. Not sure why people think games where each side builds up a huge force and it's an insta-gg when the single large battle is over are the most entertaining. I find the micro-intense GSL games to be far more entertaining than most games from MLG. Not saying there weren't any good games at MLG, because there definitely were some, but none put me on the edge of my seat like some GSL series did. Did you see Foxer vs. Kyrix? Best series I have ever seen. Boxer vs. Nada was an awesome display of TvT. To each his own I guess. | ||
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