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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
November 16 2010 21:03 GMT
#5681
Damn... a lot of known players not qualifying: Loner, HuK, Cella, Tester, SelecT, etc. Hopefully Tester doesn't get fed up and decide to just do his military service now.


pencilcase
Profile Joined September 2007
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 21:11:03
November 16 2010 21:10 GMT
#5682
On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote:
MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/

Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right?
Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG.
k20
Profile Joined September 2010
United States342 Posts
November 16 2010 21:12 GMT
#5683
On November 17 2010 05:59 Gumbeez wrote:
So did July Zerg make it or not?

I am assuming he did not?

Which you'd be wrong because in the list of those who qualified, it says VealSteak ((Z)July)
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
November 16 2010 21:13 GMT
#5684
On November 17 2010 06:03 DaemonX wrote:
Wait, why are Boxer and NaDa having to qualify?

Didn't they get CodeS last season?


Code-S is for the 2011 GSL season
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
thesauceishot
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada333 Posts
November 16 2010 21:14 GMT
#5685
Who did TesteR lose to?
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
November 16 2010 21:14 GMT
#5686
On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote:
MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/

Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right?
Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG.

Huk? heh.

Better as in, more interesting to watch.

I can count on 1 hand how many games at the end of this GSL went past 20 minutes. If short timing pushes are the way of the future and winning large tourneys, whatever, but it will never be as interesting to watch for the masses as the "Terrible mlg players" long, macro games.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
November 16 2010 21:15 GMT
#5687
800000 views O:

TL is scary. Foreigners have power, I guess.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 21:22:28
November 16 2010 21:18 GMT
#5688
Loner
Huk (lost to Aya)
Cella (lost to TankboyPrime)
Tester
sanZenith (lost to KyrixZenith)
SeleCT

That list depresses me to no end.

Not only do more good protoss get spanked, many of the top foreigners are out.

Edit: Oh and what is a joke is comparing the GSL to the MLG. The MLG had a lot of great players, but as you can see a lot of those players who win western tournies, or consistently beat top foreigners, can't even get past the ro128. That is pretty significant.
pencilcase
Profile Joined September 2007
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 21:19:42
November 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#5689
On November 17 2010 06:14 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote:
On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote:
MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/

Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right?
Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG.

Huk? heh.

Better as in, more interesting to watch.

I can count on 1 hand how many games at the end of this GSL went past 20 minutes. If short timing pushes are the way of the future and winning large tourneys, whatever, but it will never be as interesting to watch for the masses as the "Terrible mlg players" long, macro games.

Oh then I agree, but that's totally Blizzard's fault and not the players. Zerg is just way too OP in the late game right now, so until Terran and Protoss are buffed at the end and Zerg is buffed in the beginning we will keep having these 10 minute marine rush fests.

Honestly Blizzard is in a lot of trouble because they don't have enough time to implement changes without disrupting tournaments, but the current state of the game is pretty broken. Maybe they'll get out a patch this week before the Round of 64 starts so that Protoss can actually win some games.
Darhaja
Profile Joined September 2010
United States108 Posts
November 16 2010 21:19 GMT
#5690
Tester didn't qualify again.. SIGH
out4blood
Profile Joined July 2010
United States313 Posts
November 16 2010 21:22 GMT
#5691
On November 17 2010 04:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 04:29 FabledIntegral wrote:
What? Why would you miss a single GSL tourney to go attend a single foreign tourney with significantly less stakes? Am I missing something?

It is a valid argument. MLG and IEM often happen over the span of 3 days and the competitor field is much smaller. Yet winning them gets you a lot of recognition and thus not just prize money but also sponsorship potential. There is a lot to be said to choosing the foreign tournaments over the GSL if you are not capable of winning GSL.

Put this in the context of the original comment. The guy was asking why Tester (or someone like him) doesn't play elsewhere. For him the best tournament and sponsorship opportunities will be in Korea, not elsewhere. Nowhere else does it pay to be a pro-gamer like it does in Korea.
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Rebornlife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada224 Posts
November 16 2010 21:31 GMT
#5692
I was cheering for Huk not only because he would be the first Canadian in (not 100% sure of this, back me up?) but also because he is a good TOSS player that might have gone far, and most likely would have given us very entertaining, and fun games to see, as he usually does. I guess 3/4 liquid players made it through however, so that is an upside.
dutpotd
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada49 Posts
November 16 2010 21:34 GMT
#5693
On November 17 2010 06:22 out4blood wrote:
Nowhere else does it pay to be a pro-gamer like it does in Korea.


Correct, this is also the answer to some of the comparisons earlier in the thread between MLG/GSL, namely it does not come as a surprise that the Korean scene is more competitive (note how I don't say Korean's are flat out better), money is what drives competitive play as it is strongly correlated to the time any player can invest into getting better.

Really looking forward to seeing if/how MLG, Dreamhack, ESL, etc. and non-Korean Esports evolves around Starcraft 2 in the near and distant future, as patches/expansions are released.

I think as many of our favorites didn't make the top 64 GSL cut, foreigners did pretty well this season relatively speaking. It isn't possible for everyone to make it, 64 is a pretty limited number of spots, and we all know by now the qualifiers and their groupings/pools can often pit top players against one another well before they would otherwise meet if seeding was in place. I'm not complaining though, this makes things quite interesting, and throws us observers out when trying to figure out 'who is better than who'.

I hope that Huk, Select, Kiwi, Torch, and all of the other foreigners take their failed qualifying attempt constructively because I'd love to see them all continue to compete in Korea and around the world in future high calibre events. I'm sure they will.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
November 16 2010 21:34 GMT
#5694
On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote:
MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/

Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right?
Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG.

"random average terran"
he's 51st on korean ladder, qualified for gsl2, he's no slouch
this compares to QXC 2-0ing hopetorture (the only person to get to the ro8 of both GSLs) in KotB.
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Gorguts
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada254 Posts
November 16 2010 21:39 GMT
#5695
gonna be a ZvZ finals.
CrAzEdBaDgEr
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada166 Posts
November 16 2010 21:49 GMT
#5696
On November 17 2010 05:37 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 05:23 CrAzEdBaDgEr wrote:
On November 17 2010 05:14 Talin wrote:
On November 17 2010 04:51 Ocedic wrote:The level of play at MLG is a joke compared to GSL.


You're kidding, right?

The average level of play throughout the tournament might favor GSL, but not by any significant amount to justify calling it a "joke".


To say the skill levels don't vary by any significant amount is equally ridiculous.

The MLG skill level was very high, definitely not a "joke", but there's definitely a significant difference between that and the GSL. This makes complete sense when you compare the locations and prize pools of each tournament

so your argument against making easy money is that the money is too easy?


Not sure what you're talking about, I was just talking about the skill gap (not huge, but significant).

As for easy money, traveling from Korea to the USA, staying a few days, winning a few thousand bucks that's not 100% guaratneed even if you're the strong favorite, then traveling back doesn't sound like easy money to me even if the tournament win was essentially a lock.
Delamos
Profile Joined November 2010
United States32 Posts
November 16 2010 21:50 GMT
#5697
17/29 toss 18/43 Terran 8/34 zerg Didnt qualify.. lol
Close to 60% of protoss. 38% Terran. 25% Zerg.............Seems a tad bit sad for the toss fan boys......

Started out as -
Terran : 39.5%
Protoss : 33%
Zerg : 23.9%
Random : 3.6%

Ended as......-
Terran : 39%
Protoss : 18.75%
Zerg : 40.6%
Random : 1.5%
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
November 16 2010 21:53 GMT
#5698
Huk is out : / hope ret can make it far.
DaRkFrosT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States407 Posts
November 16 2010 21:53 GMT
#5699
What I feel GOM will do, is to have a lot of zvz in the ro64...
Libera me from hell.
CrAzEdBaDgEr
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 21:55:47
November 16 2010 21:54 GMT
#5700
On November 17 2010 06:14 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote:
On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote:
MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/

Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right?
Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG.

Huk? heh.

Better as in, more interesting to watch.

I can count on 1 hand how many games at the end of this GSL went past 20 minutes. If short timing pushes are the way of the future and winning large tourneys, whatever, but it will never be as interesting to watch for the masses as the "Terrible mlg players" long, macro games.


Not sure why people think games where each side builds up a huge force and it's an insta-gg when the single large battle is over are the most entertaining. I find the micro-intense GSL games to be far more entertaining than most games from MLG. Not saying there weren't any good games at MLG, because there definitely were some, but none put me on the edge of my seat like some GSL series did. Did you see Foxer vs. Kyrix? Best series I have ever seen. Boxer vs. Nada was an awesome display of TvT.

To each his own I guess.
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