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On November 17 2010 06:34 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote:On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote: MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/ Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right? Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG. "random average terran" he's 51st on korean ladder, qualified for gsl2, he's no slouch this compares to QXC 2-0ing hopetorture (the only person to get to the ro8 of both GSLs) in KotB.
lol did you really bring ancient history into this mix? KotB? lmao
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On November 17 2010 06:54 CrAzEdBaDgEr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 06:14 Fa1nT wrote:On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote:On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote: MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/ Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right? Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG. Huk? heh. Better as in, more interesting to watch. I can count on 1 hand how many games at the end of this GSL went past 20 minutes. If short timing pushes are the way of the future and winning large tourneys, whatever, but it will never be as interesting to watch for the masses as the "Terrible mlg players" long, macro games. Not sure why people think games where each side builds up a huge force and it's an insta-gg when the single large battle is over are the most entertaining. I find the micro-intense GSL games to be far more entertaining than most games from MLG. Not saying there weren't any good games at MLG, because there definitely were some, but none put me on the edge of my seat like some GSL series did. Did you see Foxer vs. Kyrix? Best series I have ever seen. Boxer vs. Nada was an awesome display of TvT. To each his own I guess.
I think we need the best from both worlds as well. I did find the GSL s2 finale a bit boring I must admit. Sen vx QXC was pleasent to watch. Jinro vs Socke on Desert Oasis, was pure fun, but if every game was this long, it would also be boring.
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On November 17 2010 07:43 bokeevboke wrote: Foreigners are not bad, considering that only ~50% of them didn't qualify. Koreans had more players and ~75% didn't make it.
That's the most misleading statement ever. Any Korean can sign up for the GSL. Most of the foreigners who signed up for the GSL were players who flew overseas because they thought they had a serious shot of qualifying. If the top 15 Koreans flew to the US to compete in the MLG, I think it's fair to say at least 50% of them would qualify as well.
People need to stop comparing the top foreigners with the entire Korean SC2 community as a basis of skill differences (or lack of).
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On November 17 2010 07:47 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 06:34 Antoine wrote:On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote:On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote: MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/ Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right? Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG. "random average terran" he's 51st on korean ladder, qualified for gsl2, he's no slouch this compares to QXC 2-0ing hopetorture (the only person to get to the ro8 of both GSLs) in KotB. lol did you really bring ancient history into this mix? KotB? lmao MLG raleigh was nearly as long ago
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On November 17 2010 07:52 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 07:43 bokeevboke wrote: Foreigners are not bad, considering that only ~50% of them didn't qualify. Koreans had more players and ~75% didn't make it. That's the most misleading statement ever. Any Korean can sign up for the GSL. Most of the foreigners who signed up for the GSL were players who flew overseas because they thought they had a serious shot of qualifying. If the top 15 Koreans flew to the US to compete in the MLG, I think it's fair to say at least 50% of them would qualify as well. People need to stop comparing the top foreigners with the entire Korean SC2 community as a basis of skill differences (or lack of). That guy was kidding. Or at least I hope he was.
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SeleCt didn't make it? Whoa. And good to see more than 4 non-koreans.
Ret Hwaiting
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On November 17 2010 08:05 k20 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 07:52 MayorITC wrote:On November 17 2010 07:43 bokeevboke wrote: Foreigners are not bad, considering that only ~50% of them didn't qualify. Koreans had more players and ~75% didn't make it. That's the most misleading statement ever. Any Korean can sign up for the GSL. Most of the foreigners who signed up for the GSL were players who flew overseas because they thought they had a serious shot of qualifying. If the top 15 Koreans flew to the US to compete in the MLG, I think it's fair to say at least 50% of them would qualify as well. People need to stop comparing the top foreigners with the entire Korean SC2 community as a basis of skill differences (or lack of). That guy was kidding. Or at least I hope he was.
Its not the first time I've seen someone say that and really mean it.
Glad to see FD qualified again, hope he can redeem himself this time round.
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WOOT WOOT
gogo Sir IdrA!!
hopefully IdrA can take the gold this time or at very least of course earn his s-class rating.
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Cella was so sad on his twitter that he didnt make it T_T
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On November 17 2010 07:47 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 06:34 Antoine wrote:On November 17 2010 06:10 pencilcase wrote:On November 17 2010 05:26 Fa1nT wrote: MLG top8 were better play than the GSL ro 16 :/ Yea, that's why the person with the best overall MLG record this year lost in the qualifiers to a random average terran right? Call me back when Fruitdealer or Nestea loses in the Round of 128 at an MLG. "random average terran" he's 51st on korean ladder, qualified for gsl2, he's no slouch this compares to QXC 2-0ing hopetorture (the only person to get to the ro8 of both GSLs) in KotB. lol did you really bring ancient history into this mix? KotB? lmao foreigners are maintaining over 50% winrate vs koreans in both korean and non-korean tournaments. What more do u want? lets take the ancient history of global gamers inviational for example. Apart from Capoch 4 gating half of korean then-top ten into oblivion we also had Fruitdealer- then World Cup champ, in a few month time GSL1 champ losing in round 1 to Andro.
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no they were talking about that on page 3
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no Nada?
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On November 17 2010 05:14 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 04:51 Ocedic wrote:The level of play at MLG is a joke compared to GSL. You're kidding, right? The average level of play throughout the tournament might favor GSL, but not by any significant amount to justify calling it a "joke".
I would say that the level of play at Raleigh and DC was a bit of a joke, to be honest. It was only barely a step above a stacked CraftCup. Anyone in the top 32 of the first or second GSL would be a clear favorite over all but the very top players in those events.
However, Dallas was quite the tournament, with many incredible games being played. It was not even on the same level as previous MLG events. Level of play is proportionate to the prize pool, usually, which is why people who live in Korea will always be ahead of people who don't. They have more motivation to devote their lives to the game.
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July, Sen, Idra, Fruitdealer, NesTea, Kyrix, and Moon. What more can a zerg player ask for?
:D
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Can't find it in the past pages, but has the person who defeated Tester been found out? Who was it/what race?
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Tester Sen
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