Beeline, one of the largest Russian internet and mobile service provider is hosting, fittingly, one of the largest Starcraft II tournaments the world has ever seen! reportedly the trophy the winner will recieve will look like that
will be hosted every monday, wednesday, friday, starting 11.11.2010 at 19:00 Moscow time on the Russian server. Single elimination, up to 1024 people. Beeline clients will get a special loser bracket(lol) I don't know if there are any restrictions regarding foreign participants- the only restriction listed on teh website is that you have to be 16 years of age.
Finals:
12.12.2010 8 people will qualify Will be held live in Moscow, Club "Pipl" (as far as i was able to find out that is a proper night club, not a computer cafe which are often titled as clubs in russian- http://piplclub.ru)
For some reason I find it kind of funny that first place actually gets you two computers, even though one seems to be a laptop and the other a desktop.
Restrictions regarding participants: it's clearly stated (in Russian) that you need to be >16 and have Russian citizenship and have an SC2 license
Servers: They posted schedule for qualification rounds and it stated that there will be games on both EU and RU server (but it probably means that participants with EU SC2 will not play against RU SC2 players in qualification)
The whole thing is a promo for an internet provider, though with such prizes it is a very nice promo.
Wish I could have seen BratOK's face when someone told him about this new tournament with $10k for first place which was only open to Russian citizens.
On November 04 2010 08:30 cuppatea wrote: Wish I could have seen BratOK's face when someone told him about this new tournament with $10k for first place which was only open to Russian citizens.
A lot of qualifying tourneys with a big 8 person event at end.
Hopefully with this we will see some higher level Russian players. 10k is a lot of money in Russia, unless of course you live in Moscow or St Petersburg where cost of living is insane.
I took a some time to skim the site, I did not read anything about streams or casting unfortunately.
There is a few words about streams, it states that everyone can watch 8 qualifying rounds via stream video, link will be posted on site of the tournament.
half of quali tournaments are on EU server half on Ru. Only russians(not Russian speakers, only who life in Russia) older than 16 can take part.
Streams are on gamer-beeline.ru or goodgame.ru (the same streams)
They will be: 29.11.10--6quali on RU serv 19:00(finals on 4.12.10--15:00) 01.12.10--7quali on EU 19:00(finals 05.12--10:00) 03.12.10--8quali on RU 19:00(finals 05.12--15:00) All time is Moscow time.
10k is a lot of money in Russia, unless of course you live in Moscow or St Petersburg where cost of living is insane
Even in Moscow or Saint Petersburg its a lot of money. the normal salary in Moscow is 1500-2000$ dollars a month.
And you need to pay tax if you win a computer(35%) from the cost of computer.
Way to overshoot with the prize pool imo. With that much money you could get participants from all over the world, so it seems uneccessarily big for a Russia only tournament.
On December 06 2010 01:41 Grend wrote: Way to overshoot with the prize pool imo. With that much money you could get participants from all over the world, so it seems uneccessarily big for a Russia only tournament.
no that's actually marketing done right. That's what happens when professionals run tournaments. There is just a difference in return for the sponsor between situations where a teenager runs a tournament and where people from advertising industry do. They know how to earn every penny from it. here's, by comparasion, the extent of marketing campaign for a random 600 euro tournament(there were 2 ran already): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169623.
On December 06 2010 01:56 SmoKim wrote: would epic if old players like Androide,Ex and Advokate would play for old time sakes
ahhh a man can dream
advokate failed to qualify, he was in EU top 200 from last week as advKT. I think he's really promising because he's top 200, right, and the game i saw him in Beeline qualifier he went 15 expand against zerg. So he's good enough to crack top 200 while having a 100% SCBW mentality.
On December 06 2010 01:56 SmoKim wrote: would epic if old players like Androide,Ex and Advokate would play for old time sakes
ahhh a man can dream
advokate failed to qualify, he was in EU top 200 from last week as advKT. I think he's really promising because he's top 200, right, and the game i saw him in Beeline qualifier he went 15 expand against zerg. So he's good enough to crack top 200 while having a 100% SCBW mentality.
NICE!, didn't know he was playing SC2, glad to hear he is still active and plays awesome :D
guess that's the trouble when old players don't use their excat old names(looking at you, koreans!)
On December 06 2010 01:41 Grend wrote: Way to overshoot with the prize pool imo. With that much money you could get participants from all over the world, so it seems uneccessarily big for a Russia only tournament.
no that's actually marketing done right. That's what happens when professionals run tournaments. There is just a difference in return for the sponsor between situations where a teenager runs a tournament and where people from advertising industry do. They know how to earn every penny from it. here's, by comparasion, the extent of marketing campaign for a random 600 euro tournament(there were 2 ran already): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169623.
To be fair that was only the post on TL... we don't know how that tourney is being advertised elsewhere, although it was really lackluster.
Wouldn't they get a bigger showing though if they allowed people from all over the world, instead of just Russians? I mean its cool that they have a massive tournament, but with that much money you could have like a mini GSL for foreigners.
On December 06 2010 01:41 Grend wrote: Way to overshoot with the prize pool imo. With that much money you could get participants from all over the world, so it seems uneccessarily big for a Russia only tournament.
no that's actually marketing done right. That's what happens when professionals run tournaments. There is just a difference in return for the sponsor between situations where a teenager runs a tournament and where people from advertising industry do. They know how to earn every penny from it. here's, by comparasion, the extent of marketing campaign for a random 600 euro tournament(there were 2 ran already): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169623.
To be fair that was only the post on TL... we don't know how that tourney is being advertised elsewhere, although it was really lackluster.
Wouldn't they get a bigger showing though if they allowed people from all over the world, instead of just Russians? I mean its cool that they have a massive tournament, but with that much money you could have like a mini GSL for foreigners.
BeeLine is a russian-only internet company they don't benefit from an international event. And i'm not trying to somehow belittle Cerberus Cup efforts, i'm just saying that as a community we should desire more from the sponsors and 15k is not a lot for any sport.
On December 06 2010 01:41 Grend wrote: Way to overshoot with the prize pool imo. With that much money you could get participants from all over the world, so it seems uneccessarily big for a Russia only tournament.
no that's actually marketing done right. That's what happens when professionals run tournaments. There is just a difference in return for the sponsor between situations where a teenager runs a tournament and where people from advertising industry do. They know how to earn every penny from it. here's, by comparasion, the extent of marketing campaign for a random 600 euro tournament(there were 2 ran already): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169623.
To be fair that was only the post on TL... we don't know how that tourney is being advertised elsewhere, although it was really lackluster.
Wouldn't they get a bigger showing though if they allowed people from all over the world, instead of just Russians? I mean its cool that they have a massive tournament, but with that much money you could have like a mini GSL for foreigners.
But the sponsor is a Russian internet company. How do they benefit from outsiders participating? Their entire target audience is in Russia.
On December 06 2010 01:41 Grend wrote: Way to overshoot with the prize pool imo. With that much money you could get participants from all over the world, so it seems uneccessarily big for a Russia only tournament.
no that's actually marketing done right. That's what happens when professionals run tournaments. There is just a difference in return for the sponsor between situations where a teenager runs a tournament and where people from advertising industry do. They know how to earn every penny from it. here's, by comparasion, the extent of marketing campaign for a random 600 euro tournament(there were 2 ran already): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169623.
To be fair that was only the post on TL... we don't know how that tourney is being advertised elsewhere, although it was really lackluster.
Wouldn't they get a bigger showing though if they allowed people from all over the world, instead of just Russians? I mean its cool that they have a massive tournament, but with that much money you could have like a mini GSL for foreigners.
BeeLine is a russian-only internet company they don't benefit from an international event. And i'm not trying to somehow belittle Cerberus Cup efforts, i'm just saying that as a community we should desire more from the sponsors and 15k is not a lot for any sport.
Ahhh alright that makes sense... I didn't know Beeline was only Russian... 15k is quite a bit for esports... we can't compare it to Football or Hockey... but this is a great start. I'm glad Russian companies are starting off the big prize pools.
Well, the sponsors would benifit from outsiders participating in that it would create even more attention on the event within Russia, making it more of a spectacle. However, I think it's great that it's only Russians, because it motivates the good Russian players to make even more of an effort, since they will not participate just for the heck of it, but actually have a chance of winning enough money to make it worthwhile.
I feel a bit sad as I had observed the same decline in top players within the Russian community as I sad at the "end" of SC:BW. I mean, initialy, as I understand it, USA and Russia were the two big and significant non-Korean communities, but while the North Americans are playing quite a dominant role at the current, less established, stage of Starcraft 2 (where competition is still very open), Russians don't really seem to have much going for them. BratOK might eventually do reall well, but it's very up and down with him - just like you can never trust Pomi to be a top player. And there doesn't seem to be any great amount of interesting talent. It might still be on the steps, though. From the numbers, there appears to be a decent amount of Russians playing the game, actually. Just saw a game from Aristeo recently, where he beat someone (HuK? Cannot remember) - might be upcoming. Meanwhile, we know Abver was really good earlier, and his recent results definitely makes him a contender for this tournament.
as an interesting tidbit, this idea started out as a minesweeper tournament and went through several other options before realizing that SC2 most accurately represents their target audience? Can you imagine a 20k minesweeper tourney? lol
They actually even sent a text message to one of my friends about the tournament, I guess it's quite convenient to be both a mobile service provider and an internet provider at the same time. On a side note, I was really surprised they didn't include CIS countries, only letting Russians participate. It would be great to see Ukranian players like Dimaga and White-ra there, because no matter how you look at it, Brat_ok is probably going to win this in a one-sided fashion.
the brackets have been made, its BratOk vs Slivko Pomi vs Noname Avenger vs Abver dSKe vs inNirvana. The games will be streamed tommorow @noon CET @goodgame.ru but tbh don't expect to be able to watch em, i guarantee you the servers will crash even with the powers of russians all on their own
haha looking forward to this :D hope players won't get too nervous and will show us some good games
p.s. and yeah, BratOK is not unbeatable for this period of time when no true standards are set. U may actually beat him in first ~10 mins in PvT or TvT. It'd be hueg trouble for any player in the world if he figures some solid openings though. >_<
On December 06 2010 03:30 Asjo wrote: Well, the sponsors would benifit from outsiders participating in that it would create even more attention on the event within Russia, making it more of a spectacle. However, I think it's great that it's only Russians, because it motivates the good Russian players to make even more of an effort, since they will not participate just for the heck of it, but actually have a chance of winning enough money to make it worthwhile.
I feel a bit sad as I had observed the same decline in top players within the Russian community as I sad at the "end" of SC:BW. I mean, initialy, as I understand it, USA and Russia were the two big and significant non-Korean communities, but while the North Americans are playing quite a dominant role at the current, less established, stage of Starcraft 2 (where competition is still very open), Russians don't really seem to have much going for them. BratOK might eventually do reall well, but it's very up and down with him - just like you can never trust Pomi to be a top player. And there doesn't seem to be any great amount of interesting talent. It might still be on the steps, though. From the numbers, there appears to be a decent amount of Russians playing the game, actually. Just saw a game from Aristeo recently, where he beat someone (HuK? Cannot remember) - might be upcoming. Meanwhile, we know Abver was really good earlier, and his recent results definitely makes him a contender for this tournament.
To be honest Russian players were never that good in BW. White-Ra was probably the only consistently good player from the ex-USSR countries.
EDIT: To clarify this statement, I agree of course that Russian players were great amateurs in BW and pretty notable on the foreigner scene, but I feel like none of them were really at the level to challenge even top amateur Koreans, as players like Ret, Nony (Courage) and Idra, WhiteRa (ESWC) have done.
BratOK's playstyle in SC2 is very weird. Sometimes he pulls unbelievable comebacks with great multitasking, and sometimes he loses games due to silly scouting or control mistakes. It's a huge shame though that he hasn't yet been able to participate in any large international tournaments because of stupid visa problems.
Beeline also is one of many mobile service in Vietnam and they run crazy promotion over here too. I think this is the first tourney they sponsor/run so they may want to make it small and see how it goes.
If this turns out to be a success, I have great faith that they will make an international tourney. Its always nice to see a major company take part in e-sport.
Can't think of anyone else beside Brak_ok that will be able to take this. He'd better watch out for cheese since everybody wants to snipe him:D
Beeline is all over the developing world. They cell cheap phone cards and run internet cafe-type things. However, it is fair to say that the only place where sc2 AND their consumer base intersect is in Russia.
On December 12 2010 21:51 Sfydjklm wrote: man abver vs bratok so epic
but one-sided bratok could incorporate more mobile support instead of tanks cause his style was really aggressive and mech didn't suite it that much ;P
On December 12 2010 20:19 rel wrote: Russia had plenty of great BW players. Adovokate and Androide specifically taking out koreans on multiple occasions.
Can you list those occasions? Except Androide beating Silent_Control I can't remember any that were not thrown games :\
On December 12 2010 20:19 rel wrote: Russia had plenty of great BW players. Adovokate and Androide specifically taking out koreans on multiple occasions.
Can you list those occasions? Except Androide beating Silent_Control I can't remember any that were not thrown games :\
Thats not bad. In all WCG up to date the best any foreigner has achieve is 2nd place, most of WCG foreigners was just fighting for 3rd place or even 4th since Korean dominate so badly. Russia BW has many good player, why are we even arguing about this matter here?
On December 13 2010 00:46 aloT wrote: congratulations bratok! after so much hurt from visa problems im so happy you finally won a major prize money tournament for sc2!
yeah, he invested so much time and efforts also refusing to participate in some lans cause of that. Good that it was worth it
On December 13 2010 01:13 Proto_Protoss wrote: They have the finals in a nightclub so Russian Mafia can rig who wins. But this sounds awesome i hope to see a lot of Russian players ( You BRAT_OK)
Oh man, too much TV for you :D
In any case BratOK not winning would have been huge upset, now I dont see how it is relevant (I hope its sarcasm)
after all the bad luck with visas for both IEM Gamescon and Dreamhack I am very glad BRAT_OK finally was able to get his hands on some well deserved cash, what a champion.
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bratok could incorporate more mobile support instead of tanks cause his style was really aggressive and mech didn't suite it that much ;P
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