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Go NrG?
lol i will never root for EG.
by the way who is in NrG?
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kurt kurt kurt kurt kurt nrg<3
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What is the team roster for NrG?
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EG will probably win. NrG has a few decent players, but I don't really see them beating EG. Good luck to both teams though! Hopefully all the games are good. I might be able to tune in!
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Thanks for linking our roster I forgot to. Our members are pretty unknown but this cw is kinda hoping to change that thanks for showing interest!
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Will be fun to watch. You'll probably get the roster as we get closer to the time. Often it depends who's available for the match.
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No problem! I cant wait to to watch, good luck to everyone playing!
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Go NrG!!!! Kvz and cheese all da way!
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Wow kvz has a fan? I don't believe this..
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Recognize AhhBoxxahh and ViBE from the top 200.
GL dudes.
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On October 27 2010 03:55 IPA wrote: Recognize AhhBoxxahh and ViBE from the top 200.
GL dudes. NrG.dde was ranked 11th in top 200 according to blizzard's list yesterday Oo.
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lol, NrG.
I was in nrg a pretty darn long time ago for I joined [siege] on west server.
I am so happy that fcuk still plays!
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ahhboxahh incredibly bm. wont ever root for his team
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On October 27 2010 04:03 Terrifyer wrote: lol, NrG.
I was in nrg a pretty darn long time ago for I joined [siege] on west server.
I am so happy that fcuk still plays! What was ur ID?
Always fun catching up with old Members. Siege era was like 4-5 years ago so that was a fucking long time haha
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so by EG, are we talking the good member? or the not so good ones?
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I don't totally remember what it was
NrG.Proxa maybe?
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On October 27 2010 04:12 SUSUGAM wrote: so by EG, are we talking the good member? or the not so good ones?
yeah iNc will be there
o u said good? i highly doubt idrA will play
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NrG has got this, stev/deph/dde hwaiting~~!
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and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!"
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EG's CW lineup usually consists of "hey are you available at 7 pm?"
"yeah i think i wont be busy"
"cool can i put you in the lineup"
"sure"
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holyshit CrY is on NRG? He's good friends with my cousin lol
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ppl not knowing NrG makes me sad. entire clan was sick life in BW during the BWCL days 
idunno how into sc2 they are though so my money's on EG
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Gogo NrG. Good to see that Viktor still playing
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On October 27 2010 04:22 mOnion wrote:ppl not knowing NrG makes me sad. entire clan was sick life in BW during the BWCL days  idunno how into sc2 they are though so my money's on EG
I heard of them from BW since I've seen a ton of people with that tag during WCG qualifiers, but I just wasn't sure of their roster in SC2 lol.
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Should be good tonight, it will be Vincere and myself shoutcasting to the lot of ya!
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very nice, gonna check it live!
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On October 27 2010 04:06 RyanRushia wrote: ahhboxahh incredibly bm. wont ever root for his team
This. I've only heard bad things from this guy.
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Lol if u dunno him u shudnt really talk. He's a good guy.
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NeverExpo is the king of BM
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On October 27 2010 06:04 Arcanne wrote: NeverExpo is the king of BM And you are my Queen <3
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On October 27 2010 04:48 Aeyn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 04:06 RyanRushia wrote: ahhboxahh incredibly bm. wont ever root for his team This. I've only heard bad things from this guy.
EDIT: Hi ^.^
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Rooting for NrG, just because you have a estonian on your team :p is Viktor playing?
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On October 27 2010 04:16 _Darwin_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 04:12 SUSUGAM wrote: so by EG, are we talking the good member? or the not so good ones? yeah iNc will be there o u said good? i highly doubt idrA will play
InC is pretty good. His game sense is not on par with his mechanics and execution though.
There are probably over 1000 people on TL who could take 1 game out of 30 off InC. But he's still pretty good.
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On October 27 2010 07:05 maidu wrote: Rooting for NrG, just because you have a estonian on your team :p is Viktor playing? Unfortunately not this time, doubt he will be up at around 3:00 am his time.
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Is there anyone EG hasn't played recently. They long for a NA proleague.
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I'll root for some good matches, because that makes everyone involved better
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On October 27 2010 04:40 DreamScaR wrote: Should be good tonight, it will be Vincere and myself shoutcasting to the lot of ya!
DreamScaR, Virtue, and Micro...
You need to get your names straight :-P
I'm very much looking forward to casting this in 2.5 hours!
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ahhhhhhboxah is pretty good,
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NrGNrGNrGNrGNrGNrGNrG hwaiting!!!
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This should be a good matchup :D
Edit: I've always thought that NeverExpo was one of the sickest names tbh
GL to both sides
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On October 27 2010 07:49 emperorchampion wrote: This should be a good matchup :D
Edit: I've always thought that NeverExpo was one of the sickest names tbh
GL to both sides lol thanks :D I picked it hoping it would be memorable
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EG's CW lineup usually consists of "hey are you available at 7 pm?"
"yeah i think i wont be busy"
"cool can i put you in the lineup"
"sure"
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holyshit CrY is on NRG? He's good friends with my cousin lol
Hi, who is your cousin?
no one mind ahhboxxah, hes just passionate.
thx for support, also im from japan ~
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ahhboxxah is gonna get raped. vibe will win a game. nobody else on nrg will win.
eg wins 4-1.
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NRG FOR LIFE! This will be an exciting CW! GL to all~
CrY, what does being from Japan have to do with anything o.o?
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What is NrG's line-up?
EG's line-up will be Machine LzGaMeR StrifeCro iNcontroL
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Ill put lineups in OP. 1st game is machine vs ahhboxxah gl guys!
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yea streamer relogged in hopes to fix.
Game 1 was NrG.AhhBoxxah > EG.Machine. On to game 2 now between boxxah and LzGaMeR!
Lineups and results are in OP!
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On October 27 2010 04:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote: and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!"
oh shit you have to be as good as the person you're criticizing? I'll let ESPN, AM/FM radio, and analysts around the world know this is the case, thanks for the update.
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it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though.
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and I hate the attitude of your post rofl.
It isn't like the guy is saying "I disagree with some of the decisions he makes I feel like X" etc where constructive criticism is the case I'm fine with that. But people coming around here to just say "X PLAYER FUCKING SUCKS" or "X PLAYER CAN'T WIN EVER" it's fucking pointless and bad.
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Since you're reading this thread, you need to cast more with LZ, incontrol. You two are seriously one of the best and funniest combo's i've seen, easily as good as Tastetosis and Day9/Dj.
Looks like boxxah is seiging up in LZs nat. Never a good thing lol.
Edit: LZ loses after both his expos are rolled over by tanks. 2-0 nrg.
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On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though.
You're right there is definitely no place for people being negative, shit talking retards but that's the internet. I guess I was surprised to see you bring it up given your attitude on SOTG. Don't take offense to that, I love the SOTG and I'm a fan of your antics 99.9% of the time.
The major players likely don't talk as much shit publically due to anonymity reasons. Nobody knows the random troll accounts or no name flamers on forums. However, most 'famous' players (I'd imagine) would prefer to be well liked on the internets in their community since they are actual recognizable figures. I know when I was a former sponsored LAN player in FPS (TFC 3rd place @ CPL :D) my team would talk MAD shit about other top teams, just not so much publically. I'd imagine it's the same with the SC/SC2 teams. Anyway, it's smart to be mindful of what you say when you're in the spotlight but then you have IdrA, .
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On October 27 2010 10:42 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 04:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote: and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" oh shit you have to be as good as the person you're criticizing? I'll let ESPN, AM/FM radio, and analysts around the world know this is the case, thanks for the update. You kind of miss the point. Most of the expert commentators and analysts are former players of very high skill level or people who have been involved closely with the sport since very very young age. The people you see here complaining are just random no-names with basically no prior skill or knowledge to justify their judgment/argument.
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blaming it on smurf accounts or anonymity issues is hog wash man. They don't do it because they aren't as dumb as the people that spend their time doing that.
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they also dont say people suck :p
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On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG.
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kk guys lets be friends! Game 3 going~
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On October 27 2010 11:01 ZpuX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 10:42 crms wrote:On October 27 2010 04:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote: and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" oh shit you have to be as good as the person you're criticizing? I'll let ESPN, AM/FM radio, and analysts around the world know this is the case, thanks for the update. You kind of miss the point. Most of the expert commentators and analysts are former players of very high skill level or people who have been involved closely with the sport since very very young age. The people you see here complaining are just random no-names with basically no prior skill or knowledge to justify their judgment/argument.
No i got the point, I was pretty much fucking around with him. I had the opportunity to address a progamer and it felt SO GOOD.
I also disagree with your post, I'd say the vast majority of sports radio/tv talk show hosts etc. don't have any professional athletic experience. I think thats a fairly good analogy to random people on teamliquid who follow starcraft. The difference is I agree with incontrol there is constructive criticism ie 'he shouldn't have opened 15 hatch when he saw 10 gateway" and "holy shit this guy fucking blows he can never win." the latter unfortunately is what happens in almost all of these threads.
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On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying Show nested quote +and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG.
Motbob you are retarded lol
Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says.
jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it.
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aahboxxah is my favorite player and my only love. ALL KILL GOGOGOGO!
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On October 27 2010 11:02 {88}iNcontroL wrote: blaming it on smurf accounts or anonymity issues is hog wash man. They don't do it because they aren't as dumb as the people that spend their time doing that.
I don't think anonymity is the only reason but are you saying EG doesn't talk shit about other teams or players on vent/irc etc? Maybe RTS clans are WAY more respectful than FPS clans. We used to come up with entire strategies based on our opponents 'terrible' players and mercilessly make fun of them in our private channels/vents.
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aahboxxah making me eat my words. LOL
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DO THEY TASTE GOOD? EAT ALL OF THEM.
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there is a world of difference between talking shit privately on your own vent and coming into a public thread you have no affiliation with just to shit on players.
Please PM me if you want to discuss the nuances of shit talking publicly vs privately. I don't want to completely derail this thread any further.
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ahhboxah goin for the all kill!
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Strifeco loses to Boxxah with his tank/marine push.
3-0 nrg.
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motbob
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On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment.
Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?"
If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this.
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On October 27 2010 08:18 CrY. wrote: EG's CW lineup usually consists of "hey are you available at 7 pm?"
"yeah i think i wont be busy"
"cool can i put you in the lineup"
"sure"
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holyshit CrY is on NRG? He's good friends with my cousin lol
Hi, who is your cousin?
no one mind ahhboxxah, hes just passionate.
thx for support, also im from japan ~
I'll PM you
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will eg get all killed again?!
really impressed with ahhboxahh's play so far.
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On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this.
Ad hominem attack at the general shit talking people are doing makes me irrelevant? wtf roflfl
Nah. If people are being pricks unprovoked I'm cool callingn it out.
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On October 27 2010 11:06 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:01 ZpuX wrote:On October 27 2010 10:42 crms wrote:On October 27 2010 04:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote: and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" oh shit you have to be as good as the person you're criticizing? I'll let ESPN, AM/FM radio, and analysts around the world know this is the case, thanks for the update. You kind of miss the point. Most of the expert commentators and analysts are former players of very high skill level or people who have been involved closely with the sport since very very young age. The people you see here complaining are just random no-names with basically no prior skill or knowledge to justify their judgment/argument. No i got the point, I was pretty much fucking around with him. I had the opportunity to address a progamer and it felt SO GOOD. I also disagree with your post, I'd say the vast majority of sports radio/tv talk show hosts etc. don't have any professional athletic experience. I think thats a fairly good analogy to random people on teamliquid who follow starcraft. The difference is I agree with incontrol there is constructive criticism ie 'he shouldn't have opened 15 hatch when he saw 10 gateway" and "holy shit this guy fucking blows he can never win." the latter unfortunately is what happens in almost all of these threads. You are totally right about most of the hosts not being the most knowledgeable but then again, they are hosts not because of their knowledge or experience in the very field but because they are good at introducing, have a good voice or are decent looking. Then we have the analysts and expert commentators who are the ones to bring in the strategy and criticism.
You rarely see the hosts or main commentators do any final analyses. They might come up with something but will always turn to the expert to verify the assumptions he made.
Anyway, how come there are players you barely heard of being able to take 3 games off of EG just like that? Feels surreal somehow.
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What's the program called where they overlay the score/race/colours of the teams?
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On October 27 2010 11:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. Ad hominem attack at the general shit talking people are doing makes me irrelevant? wtf roflfl Nah. If people are being pricks unprovoked I'm cool callingn it out. If you're willing to do that, you should expect that any the next few pages in whatever thread you're posting in might become a shitstorm, like this one. Good luck in your match.
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On October 27 2010 11:19 LuckyFool wrote: will eg get all killed again?!
really impressed with ahhboxahh's play so far.
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gogogo NrG !!!! EG OVER RATED ~
besides idra ofc ~ =}
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Great play Incontrol. I'm not even toss and I'm loving it.
Edit:
Strong jinx
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great play from ahhboxxahh i'm not even terran and I'm loving it.
Props to mihai for the all-kill on EG. :D
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All-killed again?
Something clearly needs to change in the EG house since what is happening now isn't working as recent clan-wars and Blizzcon and other tournies have shown. The players are losing games they really shouldn't be.
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Incontrol needs to work on his gg timing.
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hahah all kill I just became NrG fan.
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damn mihai fighting!!!
what's going on with EG? Step up your game :o
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ahhhhhhhhhhboxahhhhhh all kill
pretty embarrassing for team eg
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Damn that was sweet. EG needed Axslav badly.
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GGs, love the AahBoxxah Playstyle
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NrG proving me wrong. Good games and congrats.
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On October 27 2010 08:21 LuckyFool wrote: ahhboxxah is gonna get raped.
eg wins 4-1.
what an amazing prediction!
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surprising result, everyone has off days. On the other end, props to NrG, well played
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On October 27 2010 11:45 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 08:21 LuckyFool wrote: ahhboxxah is gonna get raped.
eg wins 4-1. what an amazing prediction! 
lmao yeah thats pretty bad :p
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Good job to ahhboxah. Congrats NrG
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On October 27 2010 11:45 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 08:21 LuckyFool wrote: ahhboxxah is gonna get raped.
eg wins 4-1. what an amazing prediction!  LOL at least ur a good sport about it. Thanks for everyone who watched. I'll get the reps in a pack and stick em on our site for anyone who is interested.
NrG. 4-0 EG. gg's EG thanks for war~
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Quite the upset. I enjoyed the last game, nice use of the dt's and the proxy pylon.
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he played really well.
I think I had it but got really sloppy and didn't seal the deal when he was retreating the first time I routed the high yield. 
Fun game regardless.. would have obviously wanted to win though.
Gw and gg's Nrg
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just curious. didnt tastless say hes the eg sc2 "manager"? whats the possibiliy of him just firing all of you and picking up some other people? or does EG not care the US version getting raped all the time or about getting idra a white practice partner(s) in korea?
<3 but im just curious
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Manager doesn't mean he has that power. a couple bad clan wars following a few good ones isn't reason to nuke a whole team (unless you're complexity). Not to mention Colbi is the manager of the american players.
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Anyone have insight on EG poor performance lately? (2 all kills in a row)
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AhhBoxxah impressive all kill of EG.
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A lot of mediocre terrans are being exposed these days I think. LzGamer is one example. Good player; undeniably so. Worthy of being a professional? Not even close. Maybe catch a bench role in the WNBA of SC2
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On October 27 2010 11:48 ZlaSHeR wrote: Not to mention Colbi is the manager of the american players.
whats tastless then? just a guy they picked up to relentlessly plug the team as much as possible in GSL?
i really dont mean to be a dick or anything im just curious how EG works, i dont really keep up with them or anything
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On October 27 2010 11:47 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:45 LuckyFool wrote:On October 27 2010 08:21 LuckyFool wrote: ahhboxxah is gonna get raped.
eg wins 4-1. what an amazing prediction!  LOL at least ur a good sport about it. Thanks for everyone who watched. I'll get the reps in a pack and stick em on our site for anyone who is interested. NrG. 4-0 EG. gg's EG thanks for war~
honestly I'm glad I was proven wrong. love seeing underdogs win.
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Great games. Saddest thing about the all-kill is that we didn't get to see how good the rest of the NrG members are. Oh wells!
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On October 27 2010 11:48 ZlaSHeR wrote: Manager doesn't mean he has that power. a couple bad clan wars following a few good ones isn't reason to nuke a whole team (unless you're complexity). Not to mention Colbi is the manager of the american players.
Well when you couple the clan wars with tourny results obviously there becomes questions about the status quo (not saying anyone should be kicked out tho).
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That was incredibly impressive
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AhhhBoxuuuuuu! Grats on the all-kill.
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On October 27 2010 11:50 danson wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:48 ZlaSHeR wrote: Not to mention Colbi is the manager of the american players. whats tastless then? just a guy they picked up to relentlessly plug the team as much as possible in GSL? i really dont mean to be a dick or anything im just curious how EG works, i dont really keep up with them or anything
My guess? he manages the korean side of things if things get going over there,. You don't mean to be a dick but the way you write your posts suggests otherwise, you could easily ask the same question in more polite ways then telling them they should all get kicked off the team. I don't know exactly the logistics but a team manager probably doesn't have the power to make any contract moves but could influence management.
Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days.
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On October 27 2010 11:51 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:48 ZlaSHeR wrote: Manager doesn't mean he has that power. a couple bad clan wars following a few good ones isn't reason to nuke a whole team (unless you're complexity). Not to mention Colbi is the manager of the american players. Well when you couple the clan wars with tourny results obviously there becomes questions about the status quo (not saying anyone should be kicked out tho).
Management makes their decisions, but I doubt just because 10 bronze-silver leaguers on team liquid say that these guys aren't worthy of being pros will lead to them getting kicked off the team lol.
Theres a reason why those guys are the management.
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AhhhBoxahh saw your post and decided to sweep
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felt like i was watching BW terran ahhhhhhboxahhhhhh
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On October 27 2010 11:50 danson wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:48 ZlaSHeR wrote: Not to mention Colbi is the manager of the american players. whats tastless then? just a guy they picked up to relentlessly plug the team as much as possible in GSL? i really dont mean to be a dick or anything im just curious how EG works, i dont really keep up with them or anything If I remember correctly, he is the SC2 Asian Branch manager.
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Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post.
Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days.
People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches.
EG 2-4 rS (link) EG 3-4 root (link) EG 0-4 fnatic (link) EG 4-2 vT (link) EG 0-4 NrG (link)
And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course!
EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day".
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On October 27 2010 11:54 ZlaSHeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:50 danson wrote:On October 27 2010 11:48 ZlaSHeR wrote: Not to mention Colbi is the manager of the american players. whats tastless then? just a guy they picked up to relentlessly plug the team as much as possible in GSL? i really dont mean to be a dick or anything im just curious how EG works, i dont really keep up with them or anything My guess? he manages the korean side of things if things get going over there,. You don't mean to be a dick but the way you write your posts suggests otherwise, you could easily ask the same question in more polite ways then telling them they should all get kicked off the team. I don't know exactly the logistics but a team manager probably doesn't have the power to make any contract moves but could influence management. Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days.
Completely agreed. The EG team is a bunch of great players who are very active in the community. I have tons of respect for them, and they are one of my favourite teams. It's a shame that EG is so popular at times because everyone has such high expectations, you guys need to chill out a bit. It's the same as the qq over TLO's early entrance from Blizzcon and GSL- you really can't expect them to win everything, especially in such a volatile atmosphere as a clan war. Two losses is really no reason for the management to re-examine their players, the players will practice as hard as they always do- if not harder.
Imo, Fnatic, EG, Root, and I guess Nrg are very very close in skill levels. Thanks for the games guys
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On October 27 2010 12:13 motbob wrote:Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post. Show nested quote +Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days. People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches. EG 2-4 rS ( link) EG 3-4 root ( link) EG 0-4 fnatic ( link) EG 4-2 vT ( link) EG 0-4 NrG ( link) And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course! EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day".
like Ferris Bueller.
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On October 27 2010 12:13 motbob wrote:Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post. Show nested quote +Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days. People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches. EG 2-4 rS ( link) EG 3-4 root ( link) EG 0-4 fnatic ( link) EG 4-2 vT ( link) EG 0-4 NrG ( link) And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course! EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day". Here are a few more recent matches you forgot to mention:
EG 4-1 HG EG 4-0 CNB EG 4-2 Inflow EG 4-1 myR EG 4-2 vVv
Anyways, I have to give huge credit to NrG especially AhhBoxxah who played very well. He's a player that definitely should not be taken lightly by anyone in the future.
I appreciate all the support for EG and will be the first to agree that we haven't been performing up to par in our past couple matches. I am confident we will come back to form very soon though and hopefully by then we will be able to schedule a rematch Congrats on your win NrG! GG's
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On October 27 2010 12:43 Colbi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 12:13 motbob wrote:Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post. Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days. People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches. EG 2-4 rS ( link) EG 3-4 root ( link) EG 0-4 fnatic ( link) EG 4-2 vT ( link) EG 0-4 NrG ( link) And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course! EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day". Here are a few more recent matches you forgot to mention: EG 4-1 HG EG 4-0 CNB EG 4-2 Inflow EG 4-1 myR EG 4-2 vVv Anyways, I have to give huge credit to NrG especially AhhBoxxah who played very well. He's a player that definitely should not be taken lightly by anyone in the future. I appreciate all the support for EG and will be the first to agree that we haven't been performing up to par in our past couple matches. I am confident we will come back to form very soon though and hopefully by then we will be able to schedule a rematch  Congrats on your win NrG! GG's
He said competent clans. No offense to those teams but I wouldn't call them top teams... Except Inflow maybe.
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Regardless of whether EG has been winning lately or not, they have shown a high level of professionalism through the whole process. It was a treat dealing with such a classy team.
Thanks for the kind words Colbi
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AhhBoxxah is the shit I'm stealing all his builds/play.
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motbob
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On October 27 2010 12:43 Colbi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 12:13 motbob wrote:Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post. Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days. People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches. EG 2-4 rS ( link) EG 3-4 root ( link) EG 0-4 fnatic ( link) EG 4-2 vT ( link) EG 0-4 NrG ( link) And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course! EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day". Here are a few more recent matches you forgot to mention: EG 4-1 HG EG 4-0 CNB EG 4-2 Inflow EG 4-1 myR EG 4-2 vVv Anyways, I have to give huge credit to NrG especially AhhBoxxah who played very well. He's a player that definitely should not be taken lightly by anyone in the future. I appreciate all the support for EG and will be the first to agree that we haven't been performing up to par in our past couple matches. I am confident we will come back to form very soon though and hopefully by then we will be able to schedule a rematch  Congrats on your win NrG! GG's I didn't forget to mention those, it's just that there was zero coverage of those matches on community sites. Maybe part of EG's problem is that it isn't hyping up the matches it's winning
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looking forward to see more ahhboxxah in Dallas !!!
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On October 27 2010 12:46 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 12:43 Colbi wrote:On October 27 2010 12:13 motbob wrote:Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post. Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days. People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches. EG 2-4 rS ( link) EG 3-4 root ( link) EG 0-4 fnatic ( link) EG 4-2 vT ( link) EG 0-4 NrG ( link) And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course! EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day". Here are a few more recent matches you forgot to mention: EG 4-1 HG EG 4-0 CNB EG 4-2 Inflow EG 4-1 myR EG 4-2 vVv Anyways, I have to give huge credit to NrG especially AhhBoxxah who played very well. He's a player that definitely should not be taken lightly by anyone in the future. I appreciate all the support for EG and will be the first to agree that we haven't been performing up to par in our past couple matches. I am confident we will come back to form very soon though and hopefully by then we will be able to schedule a rematch  Congrats on your win NrG! GG's He said competent clans. No offense to those teams but I wouldn't call them top teams... Except Inflow maybe.
Inflow, MyRevenge, and vVv are all legitimate teams.
And yeah, I'd love to see people get on TLO's shit for not having won anything since before joining TL, you won't see that happen any time soon.
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On October 27 2010 12:46 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 12:43 Colbi wrote:On October 27 2010 12:13 motbob wrote:Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post. Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days. People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches. EG 2-4 rS ( link) EG 3-4 root ( link) EG 0-4 fnatic ( link) EG 4-2 vT ( link) EG 0-4 NrG ( link) And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course! EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day". Here are a few more recent matches you forgot to mention: EG 4-1 HG EG 4-0 CNB EG 4-2 Inflow EG 4-1 myR EG 4-2 vVv Anyways, I have to give huge credit to NrG especially AhhBoxxah who played very well. He's a player that definitely should not be taken lightly by anyone in the future. I appreciate all the support for EG and will be the first to agree that we haven't been performing up to par in our past couple matches. I am confident we will come back to form very soon though and hopefully by then we will be able to schedule a rematch  Congrats on your win NrG! GG's He said competent clans. No offense to those teams but I wouldn't call them top teams... Except Inflow maybe. No offense but that's exactly what everyone said about rS and NrG and guess what.
On October 27 2010 12:50 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 12:43 Colbi wrote:On October 27 2010 12:13 motbob wrote:Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post. Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days. People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches. EG 2-4 rS ( link) EG 3-4 root ( link) EG 0-4 fnatic ( link) EG 4-2 vT ( link) EG 0-4 NrG ( link) And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course! EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day". Here are a few more recent matches you forgot to mention: EG 4-1 HG EG 4-0 CNB EG 4-2 Inflow EG 4-1 myR EG 4-2 vVv Anyways, I have to give huge credit to NrG especially AhhBoxxah who played very well. He's a player that definitely should not be taken lightly by anyone in the future. I appreciate all the support for EG and will be the first to agree that we haven't been performing up to par in our past couple matches. I am confident we will come back to form very soon though and hopefully by then we will be able to schedule a rematch  Congrats on your win NrG! GG's I didn't forget to mention those, it's just that there was zero coverage of those matches on community sites. Maybe part of EG's problem is that it isn't hyping up the matches it's winning  Those matches are covered on the EG site and if you look at all those thread you linked to, none of those were opened by EG. Why, because there is no need to.
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On October 27 2010 12:56 ZlaSHeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 12:46 GreEny K wrote:On October 27 2010 12:43 Colbi wrote:On October 27 2010 12:13 motbob wrote:Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post. Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days. People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches. EG 2-4 rS ( link) EG 3-4 root ( link) EG 0-4 fnatic ( link) EG 4-2 vT ( link) EG 0-4 NrG ( link) And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course! EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day". Here are a few more recent matches you forgot to mention: EG 4-1 HG EG 4-0 CNB EG 4-2 Inflow EG 4-1 myR EG 4-2 vVv Anyways, I have to give huge credit to NrG especially AhhBoxxah who played very well. He's a player that definitely should not be taken lightly by anyone in the future. I appreciate all the support for EG and will be the first to agree that we haven't been performing up to par in our past couple matches. I am confident we will come back to form very soon though and hopefully by then we will be able to schedule a rematch  Congrats on your win NrG! GG's He said competent clans. No offense to those teams but I wouldn't call them top teams... Except Inflow maybe. Inflow, MyRevenge, and vVv are all legitimate teams. And yeah, I'd love to see people get on TLO's shit for not having won anything since before joining TL, you won't see that happen any time soon. Do you really want your argument in defense of EG to be "TLO sucks"?
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On October 27 2010 13:00 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 12:56 ZlaSHeR wrote:On October 27 2010 12:46 GreEny K wrote:On October 27 2010 12:43 Colbi wrote:On October 27 2010 12:13 motbob wrote:Disclaimer: I am pulling for EG so hard you have no idea, but it won't seem like it in the following post. Two all kills following two dominant wins themselves. People seem to really blow up just because EG is seen in a much more public eye, but like Catz said, people have off days. People have off days, yes, but that excuse is running thin. No doubt EG are a talented bunch of guys but I am frantically searching through past threads and I can't find a single instance of EG beating a competent clan. Here's my very imprecise and unscientific compiling of EG's past performance, compiled by searching for "EG" in the title of TL threads. I also looked in GG.net's clan database but it didn't have any additional matches. EG 2-4 rS ( link) EG 3-4 root ( link) EG 0-4 fnatic ( link) EG 4-2 vT ( link) EG 0-4 NrG ( link) And of course there's the MLGs, where no one in EG placed in the top 12 in Raleigh or at DC. Besides Idra, of course! EG is awesome and its players are awesome but there should be no illusions about this and other results being caused by "off days", unless every day is an "off day". Here are a few more recent matches you forgot to mention: EG 4-1 HG EG 4-0 CNB EG 4-2 Inflow EG 4-1 myR EG 4-2 vVv Anyways, I have to give huge credit to NrG especially AhhBoxxah who played very well. He's a player that definitely should not be taken lightly by anyone in the future. I appreciate all the support for EG and will be the first to agree that we haven't been performing up to par in our past couple matches. I am confident we will come back to form very soon though and hopefully by then we will be able to schedule a rematch  Congrats on your win NrG! GG's He said competent clans. No offense to those teams but I wouldn't call them top teams... Except Inflow maybe. Inflow, MyRevenge, and vVv are all legitimate teams. And yeah, I'd love to see people get on TLO's shit for not having won anything since before joining TL, you won't see that happen any time soon. Do you really want your argument in defense of EG to be "TLO sucks"?
That wasn't my argument, my point is that people get on EG for being a public figure that some support and others jeer.
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Why can't the focus be on how fucking amazing AhhBoxxah played and not how much eg sucks. Man these are some sick replays. Boxxah didn't do anything gimmicky either he played standard and SO solid in every game and had 1 of every matchup (2 tvz's)
Game 1 vs Machine is an outstanding TvZ.
vs incontrol is a really sick back and forth game too.
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Because it's obvious D-class trolling. These kind of trolls are pretty common after clan matches. They come in after a team lose and start shitting on them and start using the common phrase "I'm honestly rooting for these guys (NOT!), but they just suck. Let me tell you how much they suck because the other team was obviously bad.*pulls out a list of losses and forgets the other matches that happened in between*." You''ll get used to them as more CW threads get open.
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On October 27 2010 13:07 LuckyFool wrote: Why can't the focus be on how fucking amazing AhhBoxxah played and not how much eg sucks. Man these are some sick replays. Boxxah didn't do anything gimmicky either he played standard and SO solid in every game and had 1 of every matchup (2 tvz's)
Game 1 vs Machine is an outstanding TvZ.
vs incontrol is a really sick back and forth game too.
Indeed, I was really impressed with his play last time I saw him play. I didn't think he was up to taking games of pros though, guess I was wrong!
As I said, I don't think these all-kills are truly representative of the respective team's strength; as the teams are soo close in skill, and the players so good a few breaks here and there result in a huge deficit. Could have just as easily been 4-0 for EG imo.
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On October 27 2010 13:11 GenoZStriker wrote: Because it's obvious D-class trolling. These kind of trolls are pretty common after clan matches. They come in after a team lose and start shitting on them and start using the common phrase "I'm honestly rooting for these guys (NOT!), but they just suck. Let me tell you how much they suck because the other team was obviously bad.*pulls out a list of losses and forgets the other matches that happened in between*." You''ll get used to them as more CW threads get open.
Not wanting to go to far off-topic, I'm gonna say I really think you should re-read some of the posts you are criticizing :/ I think that that motbob's post does a very good job of presenting his opinion in a non-trollery fashion.
Maybe I need to clarify my position though. Yeah, I guess I'm a Root fan because they have lots of Canadian players and I was just really impressed with their team when it first formed. However, iNcontroL, Lz, and inka do so much for the community through streaming, SotG, casting, coaching, ect. that I have so much respect for these guys. I find it really tough to pull for any top NA team because I'm a fan of so many of the players, so as long as they're smashing through the Europeans I'm good.
I really think you're making this argument in the wrong place.
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I don't see why people feel the need to insult a team simply because its in a bit of a rut. Obviously Eg is a team who cares a lot about the community, and wants to bring good games to their viewers, so why is everyone so quick to turn their back on them? Its understandable that there are some fair weather fans in E-sports, but there is no reason to address their recent shortcomings with such hate.
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On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend
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EG seems to play a lot of clan wars, they can't win them all..
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On October 27 2010 14:35 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend Thats like saying a pitching coach can't judge how his players are doing because he can't throw 110mph.
Starcraft isn't a hard thing to understand for alot of people, hard to execute yes, to see and know what is going on is pretty easy if you have been playing RTS games your entire life.
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wow, that Boxx vs. Machine was was nice... magic box banelings would be nice against tank splash lol ^^
ggs guys, enjoyed it immensely, and finally got to see boxx play
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You have the results in spoilers but not hte direct link to the vods?
+ Show Spoiler +Kind of spoils that it was an allkill for people by theres only 4 links.
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We tried our best, NrG is a good solid team who outplayed us this time. Hopefully we get a chance to play them again in the future. GG's
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On October 27 2010 19:34 Machine[USA] wrote: We tried our best, NrG is a good solid team who outplayed us this time. Hopefully we get a chance to play them again in the future. GG's
LOVE the positive attitude! That is why I love team EG. Keep it up guys!
EG company or who is sponsoring them could not find better players to support! really
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Idra and Tasteless' clan gets aced.
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Is EG losing all clan wars ?
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No. They won three and lost one last week, then lost this one yesterday for recent clan matches. They'll get back on track.
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On October 27 2010 14:35 Fayth wrote: I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend
Yep. It's rampant in counter-strike and the comments are just made from dribbling retards.
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On October 27 2010 16:31 IndridCold wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 14:35 Fayth wrote:On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend Thats like saying a pitching coach can't judge how his players are doing because he can't throw 110mph. Starcraft isn't a hard thing to understand for alot of people, hard to execute yes, to see and know what is going on is pretty easy if you have been playing RTS games your entire life.
i don't think you can fully understand sc at the top level unless you have very good micro/macro and strategic understanding. You need to have good mechanics to understand the game because strategies in this game revolve around mechanics.
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ROFL KURT WHAT A G, this is pretty surprising
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On October 27 2010 16:31 IndridCold wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 14:35 Fayth wrote:On October 27 2010 11:18 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 11:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On October 27 2010 11:03 motbob wrote:On October 27 2010 10:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: it isn't a question of being "as good" it's a question of HOW BAD the people are that sit around and act as negatively as these people do. Do you see PainUser trolling up clan war threads? How about qxc walking around calling people pathetically bad? Nope... odd trend for no name nubs to do in clan war threads though. Honestly don't try to justify your earlier comment. You're pissed that people are being dicks to you, yeah, we get it, it's justified, they were being dicks and you should call them out on that, but don't try to pretend that saying and out comes the random dick ass comments haha
"Oh hey look a clan war thread.. I'm going to go in there and shit on some guys I couldn't take 1 game in 30 off of!" isn't totally hypocritical given your defense of your criticism of Select on SotG. Motbob you are retarded lol Criticizing someone's play IS 100% exactly what I JUST THIS THREAD said was fine. It was as fucking constructive as it gets. If I said "LOLOLOL SELECT SUCKS" I would be doing what that comment says. jesus fucking christ I shouldn't reply to this trash but I can't help it. I totally agree! There is a distinction between putting players down and providing constructive criticism, BUT you made that distinction irrelevant when you made that first comment. Let me explain. Would it be OK if Huk or some other top player came into this thread to bash on EG players without providing any kind of constructive criticism? Of course not! It's not valid for anyone to do that, no matter how good they are. But you centered your first post around the fact that the dude doing the criticism was probably a shitty player. You attacked the messenger, not the message and people reading that post are naturally gonna be like "wow incontrol criticized this dude for daring to have an opinion cause he's bad at Starcraft, isn't that what he said was a shitty thing to do in SotG?" If you hadn't used an ad hominem attack there wouldn't even be any discussion about this. I strongly believe most bad players can't judge good players, might be elitist or whatever, but it's just like in poker, commentators sometimes have no fuckin idea what they're talking about, but only pros notice, amateurs don't... so yeah don't judge someone else's skill you can't comprehend Thats like saying a pitching coach can't judge how his players are doing because he can't throw 110mph. Starcraft isn't a hard thing to understand for alot of people, hard to execute yes, to see and know what is going on is pretty easy if you have been playing RTS games your entire life. Seriously when will people learn? ALL the coaches have a player background from high level play! Just look at NYY, they have 6 coaches which all of them have played professional at atleast one point in their life. That means they might not still be at the same level but they have once been there!
This is very different from random people who has been either following or playing casually criticizing top players or trying to give them advice. But I guess it's the same case as being a child and always believing you know better than your parents...
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NrG has been picked up by Sixjax Gaming and their whole team will be attending MLG Dallas. Next weekend should be so much fun! :D
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GoGo Nrg :D Edit: oh this is an old forum lol
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