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PallasAthena
114 Posts
If I played those boxer or nada guys, the longer the game went the more scared I would be because they have a lot of experience right? im sure that means that they are very capable of adapting to their opponents strategy more easily than other players could I think anybody who goes up against them is going to try to do that cheese stuff so they dont get into the long game situation but thats just my opinion XD | ||
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razamanaz
271 Posts
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sWW
United Kingdom21 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:51 On_Slaught wrote: Tester, Cella and TOP out before the ro64? What bullshit. No doubt they lose to abusive/cheesy play. They can't put in the seeding shit fast enough. No TLO info yet? Don't see his name anywhere. Glad to see Inca made it at least. He is the protoss best hope along with NEXGenius. The amount of people that dont seem to understand that seeding wont prevent the best players playing the cheesy players. Seeding is there to prevent the best players playing each other. If anything it will increase the amount of cheese they will encounter... | ||
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nickycakes
United States103 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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zivac
Croatia389 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:55 ZlaSHeR wrote: Have you read ANYTHING up to this point? They didn't lose to cheesy play, the game is new, they just lost. The plan was listed out for GSL for the last few months, and NOW people start bitching that the system is flawed, nobody made this argument because you didn't know 50 of the 64 names in the first GSL but all of a sudden you think OMG HE QUALIFIED FIRST ONE HE MUST HAVE LOST TO BULLSHIT CHEESER. TLO info? Once again you haven't read much, he's not playing tonight, brackets haven't been listed, we'll see tomorrow. At least I can agree with you about oGsInca. He's sick. Even if they did lose to cheesy play it doesn't matter, if they are really the better player they should be able to deal with it. The cheesiest players, given enough time and exposure in series matches, are forced to hone their late game play so hating on them is just pathetic really since we barely know any of these players right now. If you looked at Flash today, you probably wouldn't have imagined him to be the late game monster he is today. Looking at TL comments about him during the Daum/Bacchus era is just hilarious since everyone was pretty much bitching about how a shitty cheesy player with no management skills and no future can get deep into individual leagues. | ||
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KrinkleStyle
United States25 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:55 ZlaSHeR wrote: TLO info? Once again you haven't read much, he's not playing tonight, brackets haven't been listed, we'll see tomorrow. . Apparently you have trouble reading as well. TLO is indeed playing tonight. Source: http://twitter.com/#!/gomtvnet/status/27017653992 | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
Furthermore, we are only in the second month of SC2 official pro league... anyone can take a game off anyone (as the person above me said) and people are already putting players on pedistals when they havent really achieved anything yet. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 11 2010 18:19 mierin wrote: Also, because the skill cap of SC2 is so much lower, we're not going to have a situation like Flash vs. JD where only a few people are capable of so much more than the rest. It'll be more conducive to variety. For better or for worse... to be honest given time I bet there will be a skill ceiling like that. I will not be surprised if given a couple years there are players who just dominate everyone they play just like Flash or Jaedong do in BW. It won't be anytime this year I can agree with the skill ceiling not being that high but otherwise given time it will. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
 RevivaL, ex-BW pro. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.fomos.kr/board/photo/1286788659_1.jpg) Time for serious fruit dealing. | ||
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Ryhn
United States509 Posts
On October 11 2010 18:18 KrinkleStyle wrote: Apparently you have trouble reading as well. TLO is indeed playing tonight. Source: http://twitter.com/#!/gomtvnet/status/27017653992 "Registration just started for the Day 3 final group, which is group D. TLO is playing in this group." Actually, it depends on what 'this group' refers to. Group D is the group mentioned prior to the statement. Group C is the group current playing. I'm going to toss my lot in on Group D, because it has the closest relation to the phrase in question. | ||
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Dazer
239 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On October 11 2010 18:02 ZlaSHeR wrote: See, thats what I thought, someone who's from BW would know that this game isn't solved yet. Heres a little hint to some of the posters here, the 64 people who qualified in GSL1 AREN'T THE 64 best players in the world, SHOCKING I know. Hard to fathom that a 12 year old, Torch, and Artosis aren't among the 64 best in the world. Even they can lose to standard play. If you watched the last GSL, which i'm sure you did, there was an apparent surplus of sloppy, and straight up bad, play as far in as the ro8. Most of the series we saw, from the ro64, up to the finals, were one-sided beatdowns. Frankly, a lot of players who didn't belong got there (like the dude that cheesed out Genius I think it was). We know those players are great but because of a single game or two, which obviously anyone can win given the right situation, we will for sure have a less competitive field, which you admit is the case. Are the players making it through in their place good? Yes. But don't act like people shouldn't be upset to see the good players out before we even get to the ro64 since it makes the tournament worse for everyone. Also, people HAVE been bitching about the format of the GSL for months. Everyone knows the lack of seeding is stupid but since they are just testing stuff until 2011 it's generally ok for now. Oh and regardless of who makes it I will likely buy the season pass. I really enjoy watching high lvl play, and hopefully there are a few diamonds in the rough. | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
- BW pros are older which might be detrimental to their physical abilities, although I still doubt that. They probably have some more trouble getting accustomed to new environments, but I think that has more of an influence on their training rather than directly on their gameplay itself. - That is to say that if you are older you might lack the recklessness it takes to waste 100% of your life on the game, even if it's your job. You might worry more about your gf or even your family. You might also have more social responsibilities to take care of. Especially in Asian culture, where you can get away with a lot of shit if you are still regarded as a child but things change when you are like 25, 27 or even 30. - On the other hand, the social factor might also be the only benefit that old BW pros have. They will have a much easier time getting into a pro team or at least finding practice partners on a team (see Old Boy). Thus they will probably have a much better training environment to begin with (at least on paper, see point above). All in all I would expect the younger BW pros to have an advantage over newcomers, but I see the older players (including Nada and Boxer) at a disadvantage. They might just try to get 1-2 years of SC2 under their belt to be able to make a career as manager/coach/commentator in that game, who knows. The naive conception that BW players might naturally be better at SC2 because they played a game with a similar name is definitely wrong, the games are too different for that. Theoretical knowledge is irrelevant at a high level and mechanically the games require slightly different skills (slight differences matter a lot at the highest level, like a 100m runner is not a good 400m runner at the highest level). It was doubtful that natural talent played an important part in BW anyway. It was always mostly about the practice. Edit: Only now did I realize that this was off topic. T_T | ||
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Clammo
Australia1 Post
On October 11 2010 17:51 On_Slaught wrote: Tester, Cella and TOP out before the ro64? What bullshit. No doubt they lose to abusive/cheesy play. They can't put in the seeding shit fast enough. No TLO info yet? Don't see his name anywhere. Glad to see Inca made it at least. He is the protoss best hope along with NEXGenius. I think people are forgetting that Spunky is yet to play. | ||
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Highways
Australia6106 Posts
On October 11 2010 18:22 dazer wrote: Stalker micro from LegalMind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Blh2q90i-0&feature=player_embedded 4 Warp gate all-in -____- Not impresssive at all. | ||
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Juste
Canada36 Posts
FruitDealer's opponent has finally been determined for the semifinals of the Preliminaries. Kim, Jun-Ho(김노인) -via gomtv's twitter. | ||
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