EPTGSL Season 2 Qualifiers Day 3 - Page 35
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exitusnow
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:22 motbob wrote: If idra lost some of his ladder games to Boxer, there's no way we'd see those  Also, would Liquid release reps of TLO losing to Boxer? (well, maybe.) What you're experiencing is sample bias.What do you mean maybe, I think the Jinro series was 2-3. Anyway Boxer is good. Top 64 good, not favorite to win GSL2 good. Him and Nada are definitely overhyped as can be seen from our frontpage poll. At the same time they do have the skills to do well in GSL and get deeper and further than Ro64. Also people shouldn't forget that the more pressure and the more specialized game preparation the better Boxer and Nada will do because they have been there before. | ||
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IndigoCZ
Czech Republic52 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:24 diehilde wrote: well he obviously got a rigged bracket, a cpl byes and played a 1300 point terran who came through from the other side of the bracket in the final.... it may have been a nubs lucky day but considering the circumstances im pretty sure boxers road was made sure to have no big bumps.... cant really blame them for it though, they would be suicidal if they didnt ensure boxer is in gsl2 Oh come on. So now you're suggesting that they rig the whole thing? | ||
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ddod
Bulgaria144 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: What do you mean maybe lol. I think the Jinro series was 2-3. So TLO never lost to Nada, Boxer? Man im happy  | ||
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SpiZz
112 Posts
 But doesn't matter as long as Fruitseller qualifies! | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:22 Aim 4 My Head wrote: He's #9 on the Korean ladder, you shouldn't be THAT surprised 9 and 72. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:27 IndigoCZ wrote: Oh come on. So now you're suggesting that they rig the whole thing? On October 11 2010 04:48 Waxangel wrote: GSL prelim brackets aren't random, it's pretty blatantly setup with informal seeding to help the famous/good players through. The arbitrariness of it, and the fact that GomTV doesn't officially announce it as policy is sketchy, but in practice the seeding of "better" players is pretty standard. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: What do you mean maybe, I think the Jinro series was 2-3. Anyway Boxer is good. Top 64 good, not favorite to win GSL2 good. Him and Nada are definitely overhyped as can be seen from our frontpage poll. At the same time they do have the skills to do well in GSL and get deeper and further than Ro64. Also people shouldn't forget that the more pressure and the more specialized game preparation the better Boxer and Nada will do because they have been there before. I just want these two guys to do well because of how much publicity it will bring to SC2 in Korea. If Boxer is playing, you can count on Koreans watching. That's a big deal right now. | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
Very happy to see Polt and Clide get through. Polt is obviously extremely intelligent so I can't wait to see some more of his plays, and Clide is just very solid — he could definitely make it to the finals this time imo. NaDa qualifying will make my whole day though. | ||
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abrasion
Australia722 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:25 Legace wrote: Meh, Boxer is improving on a day-to-day basis and it's a week until the real thing starts. Regardless, if he makes it past RO32 I'll be surprised. Disclaimer: Still not trolling, incase some kind of defenders come along. Considering his play on youtube and who has smashed him - and then how far those people have got in the GSL last season, it just doesn't make sense to me. :/ I wish the guy well as he is a legend and all but honestly his play has been sub par against people who lost in the last GSL. How Tester can not get in and Boxer does eludes me. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
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exitusnow
28 Posts
maybe hes waiting for it to end to compile the epicness!! | ||
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IndigoCZ
Czech Republic52 Posts
My bad. I was misinformed. Sorry diehilde. | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:27 IndigoCZ wrote: Oh come on. So now you're suggesting that they rig the whole thing? welcome to the real world ... the one where MONEY count more than everything else ... yes, he is definitely suggesting this, and know what ... he is probably not so far from the truth!! | ||
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:30 abrasion wrote: Disclaimer: Still not trolling, incase some kind of defenders come along. Considering his play on youtube and who has smashed him - and then how far those people have got in the GSL last season, it just doesn't make sense to me. :/ I wish the guy well as he is a legend and all but honestly his play has been sub par against people who lost in the last GSL. How Tester can not get in and Boxer does eludes me. TLO does use a build I havent seen many other top terran use (fast thor with +1 atk) and maybe he havent played that build much. | ||
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necroticah
South Africa233 Posts
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
However the difference like nazgul mentioned is that Boxer and Nada has the mentality and the experience which others haven't coming from BW to SC2 and that is the pressure a big tournament can give you. They can keep their calmness even better than like Tester did when he got marine/scv rushed in the ro16. So they have the advantage when it comes to performance expectations (many Finals experience lolol). I could see them reach the ro8 atleast but it'll be very tough. Let's just root for them and hope we get so many exciting matches in the GSL2. Edit: And it's pretty obvious though and understandable that GomTV is using an informal seeding. It is logical to do that since it will generate more viewers for them and thus it's better for the sponsors which in turn will give more money to GSL. It's a company wanting to get profit and placing famous players like NaDa/July/Boxer in an easy bracket is the best they can do for everyone. The only thing that stops this plan is if the players themselves play bad or are unlucky on their qualifiers (July). | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Legace
Sweden342 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:30 abrasion wrote: Disclaimer: Still not trolling, incase some kind of defenders come along. Considering his play on youtube and who has smashed him - and then how far those people have got in the GSL last season, it just doesn't make sense to me. :/ I wish the guy well as he is a legend and all but honestly his play has been sub par against people who lost in the last GSL. How Tester can not get in and Boxer does eludes me. Obviously, how far they got in the previous GSL ain't a guarantee for anything considering both sSKS and TOP got eliminated by "no-names". | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On October 11 2010 17:30 abrasion wrote: Disclaimer: Still not trolling, incase some kind of defenders come along. Considering his play on youtube and who has smashed him - and then how far those people have got in the GSL last season, it just doesn't make sense to me. :/ I wish the guy well as he is a legend and all but honestly his play has been sub par against people who lost in the last GSL. How Tester can not get in and Boxer does eludes me. You've seen a tiny sample of his actual games and you have no idea if those games were ultra competitive or if they were trying different things etc. We can guess all we want but until we see how people react and play in a high stakes tourney setting you are just doing that making a blind guess. | ||
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