EPTOn September 17 2010 19:30 happyness wrote:
I really don't see what zerg is supposed to do against phoenix abuse that good
It's called fungal growth.I really don't see what zerg is supposed to do against phoenix abuse that good
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
Hope yall like TvP and TvT D: | ||
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TehForce
1072 Posts
On September 17 2010 19:30 happyness wrote: I really don't see what zerg is supposed to do against phoenix abuse that good put some hydras at each base instead of all between them? | ||
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proxY_
United States1561 Posts
That doesn't excuse Zenio's play, he made several mistakes in the matchup primarily with unit composition and he was clearly the weaker player. | ||
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Cade
Canada1420 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
Remember that this guy also knocked out Cezanne in the first round, so he's certainly not one of those random Protosses who lucksacked his way to this point. I think he stands to go a long way in this tournament. | ||
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Cloak
United States816 Posts
On September 17 2010 19:24 Seam wrote: The expansions finished less than 10 seconds apart. Relatively speaking, that's really late. Zerg always, always needs to expand first to stay even. That's how PvZ and TvZ have always been. All the larva spent on lings + expanding late = gimped Zerg eco. | ||
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KristianJS
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Dont-Panic
Germany567 Posts
He dealt with them effectively? | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On September 17 2010 19:29 Sfydjklm wrote: non-korean protosses in general are horrible pvz. very few people can abuse it well- just watch some socke reps and compare it to just about any other protoss. And then watch Tester and nexgenius. Haven't really been watching many Korean games other than the GSL, should've mentioned I was referring to western players. But yeah, definitely been impressed by Korean toss players. Tester is a monster in SC2, and it kind of feels like the zerg so far have been lacking (Zenio for an example). Not really enough to make a judgement, for me anyhow. This might change soon enough though. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On September 17 2010 19:30 z00t wrote: HongUn played BEAUTIFULLY - I'm so glad he went for Phoenixes and made great use of them, giving us another highly entertaining game. I still think that we don't see Phoenixes as often as we should and that they're still largely underrated. Protoss uses phoenixes, and it's "beautiful play, great micro, what a beast" Zerg has... Nydus worm. And everyone goes "LOL THEY SUCK, WHAT A DUMB ZERG" This is why almost every zerg does mutas every match, they are the only unit that can actually move around the map doing stuff without being hindered by creep. | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
On September 17 2010 19:30 happyness wrote: I really don't see what zerg is supposed to do against phoenix abuse that good For once, keep some hydras at every expansion.... I mean, no one would remove hydras from his hatches in SCBW when playing against Corsair/Reaver.... | ||
Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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vxl
Sweden64 Posts
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klauz619
453 Posts
t's amazing how much better Vikings are vs colossi than the unit that is supposed to hard counter them... Corruptors. Vikings hit colossus for 28 and have 125hp. Corruptors hit colossus for 20, but have slightly faster attack speed and 200hp/2 armor. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
On September 17 2010 19:33 Cloak wrote: Relatively speaking, that's really late. Zerg always, always needs to expand first to stay even. That's how PvZ and TvZ have always been. All the larva spent on lings + expanding late = gimped Zerg eco. Man if he only went hatch first, so good versus 2 gate.. man you are a strategic master that protoss played beautifully, letting a nydus come up in his main, kill his nexus, and another stop all saturation on his natural, and cut his gas to 3/4ths of max. Amazing play. Amazing forcefields, hitting 1fffff and clicking in an arc. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On September 17 2010 19:32 Sfydjklm wrote: again its easy to be self-critical as zerg because if youre steal playing Z youre most likely at least a little bit masochistic. But youre missign the very important fact that protoss made just as many mistakes and easily won. yes protoss took some heavy losses but zerg lost half his army with a futile push. it always makes me cringe when zerg players refuse to retreat sooner when forcefields and colossi are tearing up his army. | ||
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Ancient.eu
Romania621 Posts
On September 17 2010 19:32 dacthehork wrote: after that first game I would just turn off the computer and go home to practice terran/protoss. No need to change race, just understand that hydras are very good in unit combinations, not alone. Massing lone hydras is just bad. | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On September 17 2010 19:32 Sfydjklm wrote: again its easy to be self-critical as zerg because if youre still playing Z youre most likely at least a little bit masochistic. But youre missign the very important fact that protoss made just as many mistakes and easily won. I do personally think that Colos are took good vs hydras. But still i saw that stomp coming before he even took out the nexus. | ||
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