rofl

"cutesy play" stopping all satuation on a natural base, killing the main nexus with minimal losses.... Having a third base

Rolled over by forcefield/collosus attack move

Promises

Netherlands1821 Posts

September 17 2010 10:27 GMT

#642

On September 17 2010 19:24 dacthehork wrote:

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It's the mechanics of the game dude

Zenio is a fucking sick player and would be raping this guy with any other race. Are you seriously blind?

He stopped the P from saturating his natural, stopped a 4th gas, killed his main nexus.

Oops I'm protoss and have units which nullify any advantage zerg gets (forcefield/collosus). Also the joke someone posted about zerg getting a early spawning pool to set himself behind... If he went hatchery he would have lost the game outright. Are you seriously this dense to not see that zerg is the weakest race? Close positions, the maps, maybe. Still zerg is seriously just not a good race in SC2.

Even when zerg got corrupters, he could not defend/push back even with a stupidly sick economy.

And while all of this was truly effective it did mean he wasnt building an army to counter the army of the Protoss, who was building an army which hardcountered the Zerg. If a protoss beautifully harasses with phoenixes but then the zerg finishes his hydra army and runs over the defending gateway units, is that beautifull play by the protoss? No, his harass didnt stop the deathball from comming and he didnt properly made the counters to the army.

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#643

On September 17 2010 19:25 vyyye wrote:

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Nony and Incontrol said it in some State of the Game podcasts, to give an example. Not disagreeing, TvP is pretty bloody balanced imo as well.

zvp is largely considered the least balanced in korea right now

shrinkmaster

Germany947 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#644

And there goes another zerg. But as long as there are enough protoss to fight the terrans it's ok. Just don't want to be the last 2 rounds to be TvT only. *wrist*

GTR

51402 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#645

On September 17 2010 19:27 HolydaKing wrote:
- 1 zerg...

anyway, hongun played really really well, he deserved this.

i like his play. one to watch out for in the future for sure.

DminusTerran

Canada1337 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#646

On September 17 2010 19:27 Philosophy wrote:
Its obvious that Zerg lost because he didnt spread creep, no? Appearantly, its a much bigger mistake than losing your nexus.

The arguments keep getting more and more ridiculous.

When going mass hydra and attacking into Colo yep.

Shatter

United States1401 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#647

On September 17 2010 19:27 Philosophy wrote:
Its obvious that Zerg lost because he didnt spread creep, no? Appearantly, its a much bigger mistake than losing your nexus.

It is, in the context of the game.

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#648

Toss didn't even need blink micro there =P

Qikz

United Kingdom12022 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#649

On September 17 2010 19:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:

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http://211.43.144.234:8900/view.cgi?hid=1&cid=21&nid=900&uno=46617&&title=TG-IntelSTARCRAFTIIOpenSeason1&key=be83da4bdebfb250d92106d3685feac5

on VLC.

Ctrl+n,paste and watch

Thankyou so much!

Seam

United States1093 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#650

On September 17 2010 19:27 HolydaKing wrote:
- 1 zerg...

anyway, hongun played really really well, he deserved this.

2 left to play.

So far only 1 has made it to the round of 16 =\

QuothTheRaven

United States5524 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#651

This game was really painful to watch

SKtheAnathema

United States885 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#652

so stalkers are pretty good in sc2! :\

Lefnui

United States753 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#653

"A very, very close battle"

what is Artosis talking about lol

Tabbris

Bangladesh2839 Posts

September 17 2010 10:28 GMT

#654

On September 17 2010 19:24 Dionyseus wrote:
Zenio loses his second expo, barely got anything from it.

your really behind. push c to speed it up and catch up

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

September 17 2010 10:29 GMT

#655

On September 17 2010 19:25 vyyye wrote:

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Nony and Incontrol said it in some State of the Game podcasts, to give an example. Not disagreeing, TvP is pretty bloody balanced imo as well.

non-korean protosses in general are horrible pvz. very few people can abuse it well- just watch some socke reps and compare it to just about any other protoss.
And then watch Tester and nexgenius.

On_Slaught

United States12190 Posts

September 17 2010 10:29 GMT

#656

Got to hand it to protoss. He played better in both games (yes in both). The phoenix harass was too much for Zenio and worked perfectly in this strat.

GG.

Ascorius

Norway275 Posts

September 17 2010 10:29 GMT

#657

Kinda sad to see all the "zenio did some horrible mistakes" comments. He lost alot of hydras in the middle. But to be honest hydras are rendered useless when colossi enter the field. He had corruptors for the engagement in his own base, but even though they are supposed to hard counter the colossi, and even though Hongun didnt micro his colossi away or take down the corruptors, it took forever as you saw. Overcommitting on corruptors would also have killed him because of the large stalker army.

Pekkz

Norway1505 Posts

September 17 2010 10:29 GMT

#658

I want so slam my head into a brick wall after this ZvP. Its not even close games, if protoss get an expansion its GG..

Jukebox Joe

United Kingdom358 Posts

September 17 2010 10:29 GMT

#659

Well. That was depressing to watch.

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts