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Cloak
Profile Joined October 2009
United States816 Posts
September 17 2010 10:20 GMT
#601
People are quick to forget that the Protoss expanded before the Zerg who did an early pool, which is already a ridiculous advantage. Then the Zerg blew all this gas on Nyduses and severely delayed his Spire on top of forgetting to spread tumors. Sniping the Nexus was good, but 2 robo collossus was already underway. So 3 got out before the economic hit took effect.
The more you know, the less you understand.
vxl
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden64 Posts
September 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#602
GGrays
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#603
Creep is supposed to help zerg, but in SC2, it makes them USELESS without it.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#604
On September 17 2010 19:19 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:17 choboPEon wrote:
On September 17 2010 19:16 Klive5ive wrote:
Pffff
Zerg plays beautifully and still loses.


beautifully? he overcommited with those hydras badly and it took him 15-20 seconds to realize that his hydras were getting killed.

he had some really fun nydus play early but i wouldnt call that all beautifully


QFT.

People are so jaded with zerg imba that they can't even see obvious mistakes.

I hoped tl community wouldn't do this when sc2 came out but sadly it did :/.

Phoenixs!!
Fianchetto
Profile Joined September 2010
United States157 Posts
September 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#605
zenio had some really interesting innovative play, but really he should have gotten more roaches, and pulled back into his main and waited for corrupter instead of engaging in such a bad position in the middle.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
September 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#606
On September 17 2010 19:19 dacthehork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:18 vxl wrote:
Angry zerg players acting like Zenio didn't do any mistakes. Heh.

rofl

if it was protoss "over doing" stalkers he could just blink micro and still defeat a hard counter.

He also did have corrupters out, they just take 10 days to kill coll

Face it the game is NOT balanced, zerg can still win. If zerg had played that good and was terran the game would be over. 3 Bases to 1 base..

ZvP is largely considered the most balanced match up in the game by top players. Either way the zerg lost because of mistakes, not imbalance. It's actually possible, despite what some people might think.
Sorry but the "lol zerg so underpowered" whine in every live report thread ever is retarded. Doesn't seem to matter how the zerg plays, if he loses it's due to imbalance.
BetterFasterStronger
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States604 Posts
September 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#607
I cant get on the stream either
Top 200 as Protoss - Switched to Terran. 0-30 against EGiNcontroL... God damnet
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 10:23:35
September 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#608
Im done watching this shit if the next patch only has 5 sec zealot/reaper and a tank nerf.

Zerg is fundamentally underpowerd.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#609
Second expo up for zenio.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
September 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#610
On September 17 2010 19:14 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:14 Tabbris wrote:
On September 17 2010 19:12 amorpheus wrote:
those nyduses were quite entertaining but not that effective

He made only 2 nydus and he delayed mining sniped a nexus and slowed down gas production...how is that not cost efficient?


He made 3, one which was a COMPLETE waste!


How was that 3rd one a complete waste? He definitely would have lost more than 100/100 in hydra's if he didn't make that one.

PEOPLE NEED TO STOP LISTENING TO ARTOSIS. HE MADE THAT NYDUS TO RETREAT NOT TO RALLY UNITS IN
evilsaint
Profile Joined August 2010
United States309 Posts
September 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#611
Mass queen + spam creep ala Dimaga, GOGO!
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
September 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#612
On September 17 2010 19:22 Pekkz wrote:
Im done watching this shit if the next patch only has 5 sec zealot/reaper and a tank nerf.

zenio clearly lost because of the zealot build time -_-
FTD
Hansel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany311 Posts
September 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#613
man up tl theres no imbalance, zerg just need to build more nydus worms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_hDyfmEw4
Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
September 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#614
On September 17 2010 19:21 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:19 dacthehork wrote:
On September 17 2010 19:18 vxl wrote:
Angry zerg players acting like Zenio didn't do any mistakes. Heh.

rofl

if it was protoss "over doing" stalkers he could just blink micro and still defeat a hard counter.

He also did have corrupters out, they just take 10 days to kill coll

Face it the game is NOT balanced, zerg can still win. If zerg had played that good and was terran the game would be over. 3 Bases to 1 base..

ZvP is largely considered the most balanced match up in the game by top players.

I don't know what you're basing that off of. I would say that TvP is easily more balanced.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
September 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#615
On September 17 2010 19:19 evilsaint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:16 Promises wrote:
On September 17 2010 19:15 Pekkz wrote:
Its discusting. Hydra needs more HP. Zenio owned him so bad, and then protoss just get few colossus and wins. Wonder how one sided that would been if it wasnt for the nydus on ledge and main.


Well in that case he might have not made as many hydras, spent the 200/200 for the nydus channel on a spire and ripped up the Protoss army. Who knows?


He HAD a Spire during that whole attack, lol! Spend that 200/200 on mutas and who knows how that final push goes?


He made the spire after losing the majority of his hydras and THEN backing up into the nydus worm, he should've switched to Roaches faster and if you suggest he should use his spire for Muta's then I'm not sure your getting what I'm saying here.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
simtom
Profile Joined May 2010
24 Posts
September 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#616
Do they seriously not know the "scorpion" is the drone ?
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
September 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#617
On September 17 2010 19:22 Cade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:14 Ghostcom wrote:
On September 17 2010 19:14 Tabbris wrote:
On September 17 2010 19:12 amorpheus wrote:
those nyduses were quite entertaining but not that effective

He made only 2 nydus and he delayed mining sniped a nexus and slowed down gas production...how is that not cost efficient?


He made 3, one which was a COMPLETE waste!


How was that 3rd one a complete waste? He definitely would have lost more than 100/100 in hydra's if he didn't make that one.

PEOPLE NEED TO STOP LISTENING TO ARTOSIS. HE MADE THAT NYDUS TO RETREAT NOT TO RALLY UNITS IN


Agree here. You can retreat insanely fast into nydus. I didn't hate that one. Just the obvious late reaction to colossus cost him the game.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Lelievre
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada147 Posts
September 17 2010 10:24 GMT
#618
The balerina of air units lol
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 17 2010 10:24 GMT
#619
Zenio loses his second expo, barely got anything from it.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
taketobreak
Profile Joined August 2010
73 Posts
September 17 2010 10:24 GMT
#620
in oder for zerg to win, zerg has to play SUPER PERFECTLY


all zerg units get hard countered. roaches get pwned by stalker marauder. hydras get pwned by collossi blue flame hellion siege tank and MARINES (tier1 ranged for terran lol)



if the zerg was terran and played well like that killing a nexus he would have won 3base to 1


but because he is zerg, playing well and making 1 mistake means you lose even though the protoss made 4 mistake
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