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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
September 17 2010 10:15 GMT
#561
On September 17 2010 19:13 DminusTerran wrote:
Sigh Colo tech is kinda dumb. Zenio had incredibly bad creep spread for going mass hydra though...


Yeah problem with Nydus Worm play is however that it demands a LOT, LOT micromanagement. Caring for Creep Tumors during those sneak attacks? Hard thing to do :/

But should've spread it so much faster and didn't try to take out those 1-2 warpgates :/
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
September 17 2010 10:15 GMT
#562
Even though I thought that that Nydus to retreat to was smart, I feel that Zenio shouldn't have attacked into the Protoss' choke with those Hydras in the first place =/. They just got Forcefielded and owned.

Zenio could have had a 3rd base if he had just kept his army in a concave outside the Protoss' natural, so that Protoss couldn't push out without getting surrounded instead of trying to end the game so quickly. I think he just underestimated HongUn's army and lost too much to forcefields .

Very cool Nydus play from Zenio though - that was great .

DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 17 2010 10:15 GMT
#563
On September 17 2010 19:13 Telcontar wrote:
i think corrupters could do with a range buff. anyway well played by protoss.


Yeah it would make a big difference and wouldn't really throw off balance.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#564
It's amazing how much better Vikings are vs colossi than the unit that is supposed to hard counter them... Corruptors.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#565
On September 17 2010 19:15 Pekkz wrote:
Its discusting. Hydra needs more HP. Zenio owned him so bad, and then protoss just get few colossus and wins. Wonder how one sided that would been if it wasnt for the nydus on ledge and main.


Well in that case he might have not made as many hydras, spent the 200/200 for the nydus channel on a spire and ripped up the Protoss army. Who knows?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
shawabawa
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom417 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#566
Hydralisks are just the worst unit in the game. He should have got like 10 hydras to piss him off on the high ground then gone straight for ultras.

I've never lost a PvZ where zerg went hydras, 1 collosus > like 50 hydras.

I'm a protoss player but that game was sad, deserved to go to zerg.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#567
Pffff
Zerg plays beautifully and still loses.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#568
On September 17 2010 19:15 NonFactor wrote:
This is why you don't use Nydus. It's useless. Protoss can too easily defend cost efficiently, and then roll you over with a superior army. While you waste hundreds of gas and minerals.


lol. He killed his main nexus. How is that defending cost effectively? Some of these comments are just mental.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 10:16:41
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#569
He didnt had the right unit composition, his corruptors were too late causing him to sacrifice a lot of hydras in the middle battle. I knew it looked ugly the instant the protoss had those collossii and the zerg didnt have any counter to it.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#570
On September 17 2010 19:15 NonFactor wrote:
This is why you don't use Nydus. It's useless. Protoss can too easily defend cost efficiently, and then roll you over with a superior army. While you waste hundreds of gas and minerals.

He took out a nexus thanks to nydus, he just made faulty decisions after the cutesy play. Saying Nydus sucks based on that game.. no.
SpavaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Croatia175 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#571
On September 17 2010 19:14 Ascorius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:13 SkelA wrote:
this protoss is sick


How come? Didnt see any pro play from him that round. Make colossi=profit.


Not falling down to pressure and staying calm in a televised game = harder than you think
aka imagiNe... "What if Nydus worms could make my coffee, play 2v2 and close threads for me? That would be grand." - riptide
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#572
The nydus isn't useless at all, he used it effectively that game to snipe the main nexus and apply pressure from the ledge. He simply should've cut all hydra production when he saw the colossus and made pure roach while he waited for the spire to finish.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#573
On September 17 2010 19:15 DminusTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 19:13 Telcontar wrote:
i think corrupters could do with a range buff. anyway well played by protoss.


Yeah it would make a big difference and wouldn't really throw off balance.

would cut down on the number of 1500 rated protoss with 80 apmz.
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pLaNeT_302
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
September 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#574
wow that was a good game by both players.
taketobreak
Profile Joined August 2010
73 Posts
September 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#575
send (a super pro zerg) likes to attack with hydras and put a nydus worm behind the hydras to retreat quickly since hydras move so slow off creep and units load into nydus super super fast


that was the purpose of the nydus. for fast retreat. only works well super lategame though
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
September 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#576
On September 17 2010 19:15 NonFactor wrote:
This is why you don't use Nydus. It's useless. Protoss can too easily defend cost efficiently, and then roll you over with a superior army. While you waste hundreds of gas and minerals.

1st and 2nd nydus were pretty good though you gotta admit...ledge harass and taking out a nexus? 3d one was shit though.
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Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
September 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#577
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
September 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#578
On September 17 2010 19:16 Klive5ive wrote:
Pffff
Zerg plays beautifully and still loses.

Zerg made a lot of mistakes outside of his nydus play, like not spreading creep and having a beta unit composition.
TheFinalWord
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia790 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 10:18:35
September 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#579
That was ridiculous, he took out a nexus and still lost... Collosi are too good. The nydus was soooo cost effective. The lost mining time was probably at least 500 minerals + the 400 for the nexus + the 2 assimilators + the lost gas mining time which a few hundred at least, the zerg lost like 2 hydras.

Then a death ball comes out and rapes the much more expensive army.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
September 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#580
The worms were good. I just don't know why he engaged when he didnt even have any corruptors. If he only had a few more corruptors the game wouldve been his
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