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Brutallus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States6 Posts
September 09 2010 03:34 GMT
#461
These matches were so epic Great show guys.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
September 09 2010 03:36 GMT
#462
Just watched the replays. So mad i missed this live. Very well played by both players.
Life is Good.
Ascorius
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway275 Posts
September 09 2010 03:43 GMT
#463
Dimaga is awesome. And he should get more props for being one of the guys that invent zergbuilds... and even use alot of new and risky strats in showgames and tournies. He has better micro and is more inventive than Kiwi... by far (in my opinion at least).

mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4945 Posts
September 09 2010 03:45 GMT
#464
Dimaga...please switch to terran and start raping. I don't think you're as good as IdrA as zerg, but you'd sure beat the hell out of 99.9% of every other player as terran.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Copperhead
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada97 Posts
September 09 2010 03:45 GMT
#465
those games are so damn nice...watched 3/7 yet and gonna watch rest tomorrow...this isnt 4 gate vs zerg that expand every game just like in ladder....really unsual strat and nice to watch
I speak french kthx
Skeyser
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada219 Posts
September 09 2010 03:51 GMT
#466
wow kiwis blinks were unbelievable in the 2 last games
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
September 09 2010 04:35 GMT
#467
On September 09 2010 12:43 Ascorius wrote:
Dimaga is awesome. And he should get more props for being one of the guys that invent zergbuilds... and even use alot of new and risky strats in showgames and tournies. He has better micro and is more inventive than Kiwi... by far (in my opinion at least).



best micro than kiwi...make me laugh man.
but i agree with you he's more creative tough.
@ggmonx
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
September 09 2010 04:44 GMT
#468
I fail to see how dimaga is more creative tho, there was one thing I found was pretty unorthodox and it was the nydus -> queens + hydras + roaches

and that is only because he took 3 queens to transfuse which I thought was creative, everything else seemed pretty standard, he just execute it better than most zergs

then again the blink stalker style kiwi use could be viewed as just as creative, so was his blink stalker -> snipe overseer and rape with DTs
Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
September 09 2010 04:47 GMT
#469
On September 09 2010 12:43 Ascorius wrote:
Dimaga is awesome. And he should get more props for being one of the guys that invent zergbuilds... and even use alot of new and risky strats in showgames and tournies. He has better micro and is more inventive than Kiwi... by far (in my opinion at least).



I agree with the creative part. After reading the ZvP thread on his speedling > fast hive strat on the strategy section I was really looking forward to him doing it in this showmatch. It's too bad it didn't work out. He's always entertaining to watch, and I imagine his unpredictability is scary to play against.
jsrealpm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States8 Posts
September 09 2010 05:02 GMT
#470
I can't believe how good MASS Stalker is.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
September 09 2010 05:40 GMT
#471
On September 09 2010 06:01 taketobreak wrote:
please people, stalkers are better than hydras

stalkers come out with 6range and 160 health, 80 of it regens

hydras come out with 5range and 80health


stalkers spend 150/150 for a kick ass ability

hydras spend 150/150 to have 6 range


hydras ONLY beat stalkers when they have way better position which blink should stop from ever happening. when the position is equal stalkers beat hydras. blink makes stalkers DECIMATE hydras



This is what I fucking hate about zerg, how crap our upgrade are, and how crap and uninsteresting the units is. I have no idea why zergs evolved into being braindamaged, too much partying I guess. I hope Blizzard can do something about this before the expansion.

Still, Dimaga played fucking crazy stupid, engaging at the worst possible place. He needs to be smart at the places he engages. I would love to see him just lose the gold expansion, and pick the fight at a better place, preferable flanking with zerglings at the weak stalkers blinking back.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 06:02:06
September 09 2010 06:01 GMT
#472
What good games! Like seriously!

The games were terrific. The micro was amazing, the macro - well not that amazing but the fact that these two players with their two unique styles clashed in an epic series more than makes up for any shortcomings.

The casting was just as good. I like the fact that the two caster (hats off to you Incontrol and Lz) know the game really intimately but dont feel the need to overindulge in thinking 10 moves ahead unlike some other casters do. They see whats going on, give nice strategic insight which is enough for players of all levels to appreciate and move on. They dont dwell overly long on explaining as its a meant to be a cast not a lecture. And they both had really good chemistry, both had different personalities which allowed both to play off each other unlike the IEM cast where both day9 and apollo were talking over each other.

And for those crying over balance? Look I admit zerg needs a bit of an overhaul but i believe ZvP is the closest thing to being balanced (excluding mirror matchups of course).

Lovely blinks, incredibly creative zerg play and not a marauder in sight. So shut up about balance and enjoy the games. I know I have.
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
September 09 2010 06:13 GMT
#473
On September 09 2010 14:40 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 06:01 taketobreak wrote:
please people, stalkers are better than hydras

stalkers come out with 6range and 160 health, 80 of it regens

hydras come out with 5range and 80health


stalkers spend 150/150 for a kick ass ability

hydras spend 150/150 to have 6 range


hydras ONLY beat stalkers when they have way better position which blink should stop from ever happening. when the position is equal stalkers beat hydras. blink makes stalkers DECIMATE hydras



This is what I fucking hate about zerg, how crap our upgrade are, and how crap and uninsteresting the units is. I have no idea why zergs evolved into being braindamaged, too much partying I guess. I hope Blizzard can do something about this before the expansion.

Still, Dimaga played fucking crazy stupid, engaging at the worst possible place. He needs to be smart at the places he engages. I would love to see him just lose the gold expansion, and pick the fight at a better place, preferable flanking with zerglings at the weak stalkers blinking back.


I think he really was forced to take this fight there. Because he wouldn´t be able to defend another expansion on this map. He could go for the 2nd on the lowground or just fake to go there and blink/run to the natural and in both ways the hydras would be out of place with some forcefields and with loosing the 2 expnasions it would be over anyway so he tried to hold on to the gold and wasn´t able to hold it.
IndieFinch
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States124 Posts
September 09 2010 07:00 GMT
#474
After game 4 I thought for sure Kiwi was just going to get another win. As much as I enjoy watching Kiwi play, Dimaga seemed to try and force the win way to much. However Kiwi's Stalker micro at the end there was amazing.

Other then the silly Battle.net 2.0 problems at the start, the stream this week was fantastic. Big props to you guys for setting this up and to glhf.tv for providing a fantastic stream.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 09 2010 07:54 GMT
#475
On September 09 2010 11:41 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 09:30 SureYouCan wrote:
Why does it seem like in every single game where a zergs ground army gets roflstomped by a protoss/terran army that its always the zerg who made the "mistake"?

Maybe its because you can't stim/blink Hydralisks into your enemy? Who knows. Maybe because you can't make your ultralisks move up a cliff to get out of the way of your other units? Who knows. Maybe because your units operate between 5 and 3 range with no utility functions at all? Of course for 150/150 you can make that 6 to 3 range. Maybe its because zerg cant create impassable terrain to prevent your opponents ranged army from forming a concave? Who knows. Maybe this mythical micro you envision pro-zergs having doesn't actually exist and when 20 stalkers are bearing down on your natural and you don't have the option to retreat to a forcefielded/blocked off ramp, maybe just maybe attacking with your hydralisks is the best option. Who knows.

Maybe Kiwikaki > Dimaga

who knows

seriously dude

ya i loved the way he would wait for the moment his nexus finished and then attack while his extra gateways were warping in
that was brilliant
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 09 2010 07:54 GMT
#476
and making pure stalker vs hydra roach
really incredible play
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 09 2010 07:55 GMT
#477
oh and going nexus first without scouting on a 4 player map
astounding game sense
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 09 2010 07:56 GMT
#478
or who could forget trading voidrays for a nydus exit in zerg controlled territory
truly a genius
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KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
September 09 2010 08:00 GMT
#479
oh and i remember owning you with mass stalkers while u were in iem with people watching around.

ur pro or ur noob , thats life
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
September 09 2010 08:01 GMT
#480
oh and making mass hydralisk (only hydralisk) vs colossus , genius
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
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