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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 28 2010 04:09 GMT
#3541
On August 28 2010 13:07 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:06 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Great cast by MLG. I can't wait to see more tommarow. My only beef with the whole cast is SHOW THE MINI MAP!!! I hate not being able to see the mini map in a SC game.


DUDE. It's much more important that we get to see the player cams in the bottom right...

Seriously though, I was raging about this too. It's incredibly frustrating not being able to see half the mini map.

I don't know about you guys, but I was able to see the entire minimap.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 28 2010 04:10 GMT
#3542
On August 28 2010 13:09 asdfTT123 wrote:
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On August 28 2010 13:07 Darpa wrote:
Man, root dominance, 8 people in the winners bracket and 4 are root.


Root Gaming Fighting!!! I believe 5 actually - qxc, Kiwikaki, CauthonLuck, SLush, and drewbie.


I stand corrected! =p Grats root on such an amazing showing.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 04:10:38
August 28 2010 04:10 GMT
#3543
Root proves itself to be a tip top-tier team (count those alliterations). USA & Canada representing!
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 28 2010 04:10 GMT
#3544
On August 28 2010 13:04 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:03 Raji wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:00 Musoeun wrote:
On August 28 2010 12:59 keV. wrote:
If a wow player wins SC2, TL will collapse upon itself.


No we'll just get 300 threads saying "See, SC2 really doesn't take skill MBS automine huge group select dumb maps yaddayaddayadda BW RULES".

Or maybe that's what you meant.


Well i guess ill make the argument in this thread before that happens. High level WoW arena takes and insane amount of skill. A lot of which translates into high apm and the ability think very dynamically.


This.

Despite the imbalances in WoW, PvP Arena is actually pretty damn hard. TL people have this elitist attitude which kind of derives from the BW days, but realistically there are many games nowadays which require people to be just as on top of their game as SC 2, at least in terms of unit control and APM.



WoW pvp is still horrible because the game wasnt built for it and has to cater to two different crowds of people. It will never take as much skill as SC 2.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 28 2010 04:10 GMT
#3545
On August 28 2010 13:09 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:07 keV. wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:06 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Great cast by MLG. I can't wait to see more tommarow. My only beef with the whole cast is SHOW THE MINI MAP!!! I hate not being able to see the mini map in a SC game.


DUDE. It's much more important that we get to see the player cams in the bottom right...

Seriously though, I was raging about this too. It's incredibly frustrating not being able to see half the mini map.

I don't know about you guys, but I was able to see the entire minimap.


Yea, some friends are saying the same thing. Not sure why some people have it and some people don't
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
August 28 2010 04:10 GMT
#3546
On August 28 2010 13:08 Ocedic wrote:
I'm sure it hurts to hear your fellow teammate isn't god's gift to SC2, but he was pretty bad against Slush.

The point is that one bad showing doesn't necessarily mean that he's always terrible. No need to be a dick about it.
TrevorJK
Profile Joined May 2009
United States77 Posts
August 28 2010 04:11 GMT
#3547
The mini-map is bottom left, player cams are bottom right. They have nothing to do with each other, they are separate.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 04:12:52
August 28 2010 04:11 GMT
#3548
On August 28 2010 13:11 Titan48 wrote:
The mini-map is bottom left, player cams are bottom right. They have nothing to do with each other, they are separate.



... The feed for some people, myself included, is shifted to the left. Meaning, the mini-map is cut off and the player cam is not. It's annoying not being able to see one side, which is important to spectators while being able to fully see the other, which is irrelevant.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Raji
Profile Joined April 2010
United States31 Posts
August 28 2010 04:12 GMT
#3549
On August 28 2010 13:10 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:04 Azarkon wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:03 Raji wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:00 Musoeun wrote:
On August 28 2010 12:59 keV. wrote:
If a wow player wins SC2, TL will collapse upon itself.


No we'll just get 300 threads saying "See, SC2 really doesn't take skill MBS automine huge group select dumb maps yaddayaddayadda BW RULES".

Or maybe that's what you meant.


Well i guess ill make the argument in this thread before that happens. High level WoW arena takes and insane amount of skill. A lot of which translates into high apm and the ability think very dynamically.


This.

Despite the imbalances in WoW, PvP Arena is actually pretty damn hard. TL people have this elitist attitude which kind of derives from the BW days, but realistically there are many games nowadays which require people to be just as on top of their game as SC 2, at least in terms of unit control and APM.



WoW pvp is still horrible because the game wasnt built for it and has to cater to two different crowds of people. It will never take as much skill as SC 2.


High level arena takes at least as much skill as Sc2. Random wow pvp takes as much skill as dominating the bronze league does. I think your miking the 2 up.
Sucka
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 28 2010 04:12 GMT
#3550
Still no Gretorp score ;(
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 04:14:28
August 28 2010 04:13 GMT
#3551
To the people having trouble with the minimap. Here are your options.
A) Don't fullscreen it.
B) Change your resolution to a widescreen resolution ie. 1280*720 or some equivalent.
C) Don't fullscreen it and use the windows magnifier in fullscreen mode to view it.

I was able to watch the games with the minimap the whole time(before I changed my resolution I had the same problem). Hopefully someone can post this on the first page so that those with issues can figure it out.
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
OneWhoIsMany
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada292 Posts
August 28 2010 04:13 GMT
#3552
On August 28 2010 13:08 Raji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:05 daxile wrote:

Well i guess ill make the argument in this thread before that happens. High level WoW arena takes and insane amount of skill. A lot of which translates into high apm and the ability think very dynamically.

Meh. I don't know how much WoW arena has changed but competition back then seemed like a joke, mostly just kids relying on RNG and the strength of their compos to pull them through to the next round.

Can you explain how it takes "high apm" and the ability to think "very dynamically", because frankly I highly doubt that =p


Then it shows how little you know about the arena scene. What your saying about the competition is like me looking at the sc2 diamond league and saying the general skill curve is decided by people in the top 10 of there respective division. Top WoW arena players are so far beyond the average person gaining gladiator titles that its not even funny.



100% right, you really have no idea how much skill and talent high level WoW arena players have. I think it is a terrible Esport to watch but it maybe the hardest game to actually be good at on a top level. Unless you've played at a higher end of wow pvp you will not understand that this is true. 3 people planning coordinated attacks and defenses against another 3 people all with many different counters and strategies. Nearly impossible to understand what's going on watching a stream, can you imagine what it's like playing.
BeefAvenger
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada54 Posts
August 28 2010 04:13 GMT
#3553
if your stream is getting cut off at the side when you go full screen, just use ctrl + mousewheel to zoom in to almost fullscreen instead
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 28 2010 04:13 GMT
#3554
On August 28 2010 13:12 Brad wrote:
Still no Gretorp score ;(


I hope Gretorp wins. So many clowns need to be bopped in this tournament.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Cohedra
Profile Joined July 2010
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 04:17:09
August 28 2010 04:13 GMT
#3555
3 Protoss and 1 Zerg still alive in the losers' bracket.

2 Protoss and 1 Zerg still alive in the winners' bracket.


Not bad at all considering the actual #of invited players per race.



Edit: Looking at current brackets, at least. Do the people knocked out in round 3 still get to go through losers'?
coZen
Profile Joined August 2010
United States192 Posts
August 28 2010 04:13 GMT
#3556
On August 28 2010 13:10 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:09 Jyvblamo wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:07 keV. wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:06 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Great cast by MLG. I can't wait to see more tommarow. My only beef with the whole cast is SHOW THE MINI MAP!!! I hate not being able to see the mini map in a SC game.


DUDE. It's much more important that we get to see the player cams in the bottom right...

Seriously though, I was raging about this too. It's incredibly frustrating not being able to see half the mini map.

I don't know about you guys, but I was able to see the entire minimap.


Yea, some friends are saying the same thing. Not sure why some people have it and some people don't


if youre running dual displays and try to run it on monitors with different resolutions it wont fully convert. at least thats what hppened to me.
Fodder03
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada142 Posts
August 28 2010 04:14 GMT
#3557
On August 28 2010 13:10 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:04 Azarkon wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:03 Raji wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:00 Musoeun wrote:
On August 28 2010 12:59 keV. wrote:
If a wow player wins SC2, TL will collapse upon itself.


No we'll just get 300 threads saying "See, SC2 really doesn't take skill MBS automine huge group select dumb maps yaddayaddayadda BW RULES".

Or maybe that's what you meant.


Well i guess ill make the argument in this thread before that happens. High level WoW arena takes and insane amount of skill. A lot of which translates into high apm and the ability think very dynamically.


This.

Despite the imbalances in WoW, PvP Arena is actually pretty damn hard. TL people have this elitist attitude which kind of derives from the BW days, but realistically there are many games nowadays which require people to be just as on top of their game as SC 2, at least in terms of unit control and APM.



WoW pvp is still horrible because the game wasnt built for it and has to cater to two different crowds of people. It will never take as much skill as SC 2.


Im a SC/BW/SC2 player over wow but i did play wow for a long time.

I will offer u $100 if u can get 2200 on bg9, but of course u likely dont know what that is... so why dont u stop talking about things u cant begin to understand.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
August 28 2010 04:14 GMT
#3558
On August 28 2010 13:11 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:11 Titan48 wrote:
The mini-map is bottom left, player cams are bottom right. They have nothing to do with each other, they are separate.



... The feed for some people, myself included, is shifted to the left. Meaning, the mini-map is cut off and the player cam is not. It's annoying not being able to see one side, which is important to spectators while being able to fully see the other, which is irrelevant.


Only happens to me on widescreen on my laptop, which isn't extreme widescreen. I don't believe it happens on my desktop. Might be a aspect ratio issue. I just kept the stream not fullscreen for most.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
August 28 2010 04:14 GMT
#3559
About people completely oblivious to the fact that you can be good at starcraft even if you play/have played WoW..

The entire argument is so stupid. It doesn't even matter if WoW was the easiest thing in the world or rocket science. Why would him playing WoW exclude him from being a good sc2 player? It makes no sense at all. It's like saying that you can't be good at starcraft if you enjoy jogging (jogging is easy).
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 28 2010 04:14 GMT
#3560
On August 28 2010 13:12 Raji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 13:10 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:04 Azarkon wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:03 Raji wrote:
On August 28 2010 13:00 Musoeun wrote:
On August 28 2010 12:59 keV. wrote:
If a wow player wins SC2, TL will collapse upon itself.


No we'll just get 300 threads saying "See, SC2 really doesn't take skill MBS automine huge group select dumb maps yaddayaddayadda BW RULES".

Or maybe that's what you meant.


Well i guess ill make the argument in this thread before that happens. High level WoW arena takes and insane amount of skill. A lot of which translates into high apm and the ability think very dynamically.


This.

Despite the imbalances in WoW, PvP Arena is actually pretty damn hard. TL people have this elitist attitude which kind of derives from the BW days, but realistically there are many games nowadays which require people to be just as on top of their game as SC 2, at least in terms of unit control and APM.



WoW pvp is still horrible because the game wasnt built for it and has to cater to two different crowds of people. It will never take as much skill as SC 2.


High level arena takes at least as much skill as Sc2. Random wow pvp takes as much skill as dominating the bronze league does. I think your miking the 2 up.



No, it doesnt. The fact Blizzard has to try and balance around two different aspects of the game makes it inherently more imbalanced.
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