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DecoyOn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada45 Posts
May 13 2010 18:58 GMT
#4381
Is it bad if I'm looking forward more to the 3rd place match than the winner? If it's IdrA vx TLO, omfg awsome xD. If it's Nony vs TLO, still sick. But, if it's Nony vs WhiteRA in the finals, a PvP would be boring. As much as I wanna see IdrA play TLO, especially before TLO picks a race, its good if the invitational didn't have a boring final so there can be more later on
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
May 13 2010 19:20 GMT
#4382
StarCraft II Beta -- Patch 12 (version 0.14.0.15343)

ZERG
o Roach
+ Supply count increased from 1 to 2.


Guess we know what Idra's excuse will be!
voIDRAys are the most bm unit in SC2
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
May 13 2010 19:20 GMT
#4383
I'd like to change my vote in NonY vs Idra, I'd say out of those 2, patch 12 is going to win.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 13 2010 19:23 GMT
#4384
THANKS BLIZZARD -IdrA circa 2010
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 13 2010 19:25 GMT
#4385
On May 14 2010 03:41 Nihilnovi wrote:
The time of ida vs nony stream is nowhere to be found or am i blind? o.o

One of the players asked it to be postponed.
Creme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
May 13 2010 19:25 GMT
#4386
This patch is great for the fans. We're going to see more unit diversity from Idra (if he doesn't get cheesed) as well as get the chance to see how a player his caliber responds to changes with little practice. Personally I'm excited to see if anything in his build changes, but who knows.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46710 Posts
May 13 2010 19:45 GMT
#4387
I think the fact that Roaches got nerfed will be more of an impetus for Idra to be more creative... and more open to copying TLO's speedling run-by technique, which worked REALLY well against WhiteRa. And if it worked against WhiteRa, it should work decently well against ANY Protoss...

Idra should try to abuse TLO's Zerg if he finds himself having trouble against Nony (not to knock Idra's techniques, which are amazing as is...but if he needs an early game technique...). We all know how thick-headed Idra can be (see his game against Joseki's Thor-ship). Idra can take this, though I'm rooting for WhiteRa.

Prediction: Idra > Nony, then WhiteRa > Idra in finals.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
May 13 2010 20:02 GMT
#4388
On May 14 2010 04:25 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 03:41 Nihilnovi wrote:
The time of ida vs nony stream is nowhere to be found or am i blind? o.o

One of the players asked it to be postponed.


that explains it, was sure it was supposed to be today, cheers =)
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 13 2010 20:03 GMT
#4389
On May 14 2010 04:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think the fact that Roaches got nerfed will be more of an impetus for Idra to be more creative... and more open to copying TLO's speedling run-by technique, which worked REALLY well against WhiteRa. And if it worked against WhiteRa, it should work decently well against ANY Protoss...

Idra should try to abuse TLO's Zerg if he finds himself having trouble against Nony (not to knock Idra's techniques, which are amazing as is...but if he needs an early game technique...). We all know how thick-headed Idra can be (see his game against Joseki's Thor-ship). Idra can take this, though I'm rooting for WhiteRa.

Prediction: Idra > Nony, then WhiteRa > Idra in finals.


Speedling run-by is a standard strategy since... BW. It's not TLO's innovation...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46710 Posts
May 13 2010 20:11 GMT
#4390
On May 14 2010 05:03 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 04:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think the fact that Roaches got nerfed will be more of an impetus for Idra to be more creative... and more open to copying TLO's speedling run-by technique, which worked REALLY well against WhiteRa. And if it worked against WhiteRa, it should work decently well against ANY Protoss...

Idra should try to abuse TLO's Zerg if he finds himself having trouble against Nony (not to knock Idra's techniques, which are amazing as is...but if he needs an early game technique...). We all know how thick-headed Idra can be (see his game against Joseki's Thor-ship). Idra can take this, though I'm rooting for WhiteRa.

Prediction: Idra > Nony, then WhiteRa > Idra in finals.


Speedling run-by is a standard strategy since... BW. It's not TLO's innovation...


Right, but Idra usually doesn't use it... except in that one game against Ret; maybe it'll be more reinforcement for him to try to mix things up a bit.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ThatsNoMoon
Profile Joined March 2010
Mexico344 Posts
May 13 2010 20:16 GMT
#4391
When is the next round?
Wasn't it supposed to be today 15 mins ago?
Don't care if its delayed... I just want to know when.
Got neurosis from Artosis cause you bunker rushed my heart GG baby, lets go crazy cause the game's about to start
Regent
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom52 Posts
May 13 2010 20:22 GMT
#4392
Really enjoyed the stream. Whether people like the outcome or not, the whole series had a real intensity to it, top quality viewing! Plus I'm sure there was over 15,000 viewers towards the end!

Great stuff!


The perfect temperature is never noticed
Gont
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany239 Posts
May 13 2010 20:29 GMT
#4393
when is idra vs nony?
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 13 2010 20:35 GMT
#4394
On May 14 2010 04:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think the fact that Roaches got nerfed will be more of an impetus for Idra to be more creative... and more open to copying TLO's speedling run-by technique, which worked REALLY well against WhiteRa. And if it worked against WhiteRa, it should work decently well against ANY Protoss...

Idra should try to abuse TLO's Zerg if he finds himself having trouble against Nony (not to knock Idra's techniques, which are amazing as is...but if he needs an early game technique...). We all know how thick-headed Idra can be (see his game against Joseki's Thor-ship). Idra can take this, though I'm rooting for WhiteRa.

Prediction: Idra > Nony, then WhiteRa > Idra in finals.


If white-ra lost to TLO's zerg twice, I doubt he'll be able to take down Idra.
Also, the strategy that TLO used on ScrapStation has been around since month 1 of beta. It stops both 1-gate-starport and 1-gate-robo. I don't think TLO should have randomed himself into oblivion.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46710 Posts
May 13 2010 20:55 GMT
#4395
On May 14 2010 05:35 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 04:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think the fact that Roaches got nerfed will be more of an impetus for Idra to be more creative... and more open to copying TLO's speedling run-by technique, which worked REALLY well against WhiteRa. And if it worked against WhiteRa, it should work decently well against ANY Protoss...

Idra should try to abuse TLO's Zerg if he finds himself having trouble against Nony (not to knock Idra's techniques, which are amazing as is...but if he needs an early game technique...). We all know how thick-headed Idra can be (see his game against Joseki's Thor-ship). Idra can take this, though I'm rooting for WhiteRa.

Prediction: Idra > Nony, then WhiteRa > Idra in finals.


If white-ra lost to TLO's zerg twice, I doubt he'll be able to take down Idra.
Also, the strategy that TLO used on ScrapStation has been around since month 1 of beta. It stops both 1-gate-starport and 1-gate-robo. I don't think TLO should have randomed himself into oblivion.


I'm not sure, but I don't think Random players were allowed to arbitrarily stop playing as Random part-way through the tournament.
And I think that since Roaches got nerfed to two supply instead of one, it'll help WhiteRa a lot against Idra (if they meet in the finals). WhiteRa could probably out-macro Idra if he attacks early enough. I think that it'll go to an ace match either way.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
May 13 2010 20:58 GMT
#4396
On May 14 2010 05:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 05:35 CubEdIn wrote:
On May 14 2010 04:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think the fact that Roaches got nerfed will be more of an impetus for Idra to be more creative... and more open to copying TLO's speedling run-by technique, which worked REALLY well against WhiteRa. And if it worked against WhiteRa, it should work decently well against ANY Protoss...

Idra should try to abuse TLO's Zerg if he finds himself having trouble against Nony (not to knock Idra's techniques, which are amazing as is...but if he needs an early game technique...). We all know how thick-headed Idra can be (see his game against Joseki's Thor-ship). Idra can take this, though I'm rooting for WhiteRa.

Prediction: Idra > Nony, then WhiteRa > Idra in finals.


If white-ra lost to TLO's zerg twice, I doubt he'll be able to take down Idra.
Also, the strategy that TLO used on ScrapStation has been around since month 1 of beta. It stops both 1-gate-starport and 1-gate-robo. I don't think TLO should have randomed himself into oblivion.


I'm not sure, but I don't think Random players were allowed to arbitrarily stop playing as Random part-way through the tournament.
And I think that since Roaches got nerfed to two supply instead of one, it'll help WhiteRa a lot against Idra (if they meet in the finals). WhiteRa could probably out-macro Idra if he attacks early enough. I think that it'll go to an ace match either way.

I think his point is that TLO beat white-ra without using any roaches, so why couldn't Idra.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 21:09:02
May 13 2010 21:08 GMT
#4397
On May 14 2010 05:58 Chriamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 05:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 14 2010 05:35 CubEdIn wrote:
On May 14 2010 04:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think the fact that Roaches got nerfed will be more of an impetus for Idra to be more creative... and more open to copying TLO's speedling run-by technique, which worked REALLY well against WhiteRa. And if it worked against WhiteRa, it should work decently well against ANY Protoss...

Idra should try to abuse TLO's Zerg if he finds himself having trouble against Nony (not to knock Idra's techniques, which are amazing as is...but if he needs an early game technique...). We all know how thick-headed Idra can be (see his game against Joseki's Thor-ship). Idra can take this, though I'm rooting for WhiteRa.

Prediction: Idra > Nony, then WhiteRa > Idra in finals.


If white-ra lost to TLO's zerg twice, I doubt he'll be able to take down Idra.
Also, the strategy that TLO used on ScrapStation has been around since month 1 of beta. It stops both 1-gate-starport and 1-gate-robo. I don't think TLO should have randomed himself into oblivion.


I'm not sure, but I don't think Random players were allowed to arbitrarily stop playing as Random part-way through the tournament.
And I think that since Roaches got nerfed to two supply instead of one, it'll help WhiteRa a lot against Idra (if they meet in the finals). WhiteRa could probably out-macro Idra if he attacks early enough. I think that it'll go to an ace match either way.

I think his point is that TLO beat white-ra without using any roaches, so why couldn't Idra.


I didn't say he couldn't. In fact, I said he COULD. I actually said that Idra should probably try the speedling idea that TLO used (and that Idra himself used against Ret) instead of just relying on Roaches like he usually does (especially with the new nerf). I just don't know how prepared Idra is going to be with the nerf, since he can get pretty stolid at times (like against Joseki's Thor-ship build). WhiteRa is great with FFs but still allowed the speedling run-bys into his base, which lost him both games against TLO. If he can stop those, I think he'll perform extremely well against Zergs. I think it'll be 3-2 WhiteRa against Idra. (I assume Idra will beat Nony.)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
May 13 2010 21:10 GMT
#4398
I guess this is the downside to having a tourney during a beta. Constant balance patches mess players up!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 13 2010 21:19 GMT
#4399
On May 14 2010 06:10 Repok wrote:
I guess this is the downside to having a tourney during a beta. Constant balance patches mess players up!


Yeah it sucks for the players but is not like they have money invested in this tournament, only time.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
May 13 2010 21:28 GMT
#4400
VODs ASAP XD
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
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