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[G] The MAN Train: Immortal/Zealot PvZ All-In - Page 2

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Zeweig
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden189 Posts
May 26 2013 10:06 GMT
#21
On May 26 2013 05:18 Kommatiazo wrote:
I'm gonna go spread my manliness all over the ladder now.

That sounded so wrong in so many ways :/

How does this fare against leenock mode that scouts this incoming? Wont you be crushed?
Commentator for Esports Heaven, covering mainly European and Chinese events. I do observing and writing on the side.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
May 26 2013 10:09 GMT
#22
What do you mean by leenock mode?
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
May 26 2013 10:34 GMT
#23
On May 26 2013 19:09 Teoita wrote:
What do you mean by leenock mode?

Leenock sometimes get overlord speed very fast in PvZ, in order to get good scouting.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 10:38:41
May 26 2013 10:37 GMT
#24
Ah, i have no idea about that. I dont think it would be too useful though, since you move out at around 7:30 with this push. I don't think OL speed would allow the Z to get a scout off much faster than that.

In general you are right, if Z sees this coming and makes an appropriate amount of drones (in the low 40's is my guess) before pumping units, he can crush your push if he executes correctly.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
SteveNick
Profile Joined November 2008
United States304 Posts
May 26 2013 12:25 GMT
#25
Good guide. Had used it before based off the daily day9 did of when Naniwa used it, but this re-affirmed my knowledge of it and provided a very crisp, and instructional guide. Very good!

I am having good success with it since reading this.
It's all fun and games until somebody gets 4gated.
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
May 26 2013 13:28 GMT
#26
After re-reading the whole thread, I had to laugh so hard. Damn, this one is so well written.
By the way: Can you do this push on every map? Or do you recommend it on smaller maps?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
May 26 2013 13:30 GMT
#27
I recommend doing it on naturals that are easily walled. Rush distances aren't as big of a deal since when you push all you have is flying units.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
May 26 2013 13:32 GMT
#28
On May 26 2013 22:30 Teoita wrote:
I recommend doing it on naturals that are easily walled. Rush distances aren't as big of a deal since when you push all you have is flying units.

Nice, thanks a lot. Time to crush some Zergs with hardcore manly all-ins! HA!
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
May 26 2013 14:30 GMT
#29
I got so damn mad last night because every Protoss did this and I had 0% win rate in ZvP. So yes, I can confirm the lethality of this build with rage meter in the upwards of 8/10.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Apoptotic
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States137 Posts
May 26 2013 21:54 GMT
#30
All the rage this build induces

It sustains me.

Thanks for this :D
SC2: Apoptotic.156 || LoL NA: DeathCapForCutíe PI: apoptotic || "There's something in my brain here that's telling me he needs to 2base all-in." "That's called a lesion."
Rupyness
Profile Joined January 2011
52 Posts
May 26 2013 23:12 GMT
#31
sigh been mixing this in for like 2-3 weeks lol. nooo now its gonna be more known T_T haha but good job on guide
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
May 27 2013 18:18 GMT
#32
hah! another variation to my non stop zealot spree. I've been using the other one with only zealots in 8-9 gates. Also I would have +1/+1 eventually. From a 4 gate warp prism to a 8-9 gate (props to some master poster weeks ago). Also I make gradually up to 2-3 prisms. in a prism you can also add a probe inside so you would be dropping him inside making a pylon somewhere hidden as well.

Panic trick: after warping a round of zealots move the prism to another location shift E and warp in to the nat/main depends who's hit first. To add to the hysteria, incoming prisms.

What joy! I never felt happiness in a trolling way. Banana smiles always.

Here's what I have as a rage sampler fresh from the oven!

[image loading]

I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
SteveNick
Profile Joined November 2008
United States304 Posts
May 27 2013 18:30 GMT
#33
On May 28 2013 03:18 woreyour wrote:
hah! another variation to my non stop zealot spree. I've been using the other one with only zealots in 8-9 gates. Also I would have +1/+1 eventually. From a 4 gate warp prism to a 8-9 gate (props to some master poster weeks ago). Also I make gradually up to 2-3 prisms. in a prism you can also add a probe inside so you would be dropping him inside making a pylon somewhere hidden as well.

Panic trick: after warping a round of zealots move the prism to another location shift E and warp in to the nat/main depends who's hit first. To add to the hysteria, incoming prisms.

What joy! I never felt happiness in a trolling way. Banana smiles always.

Here's what I have as a rage sampler fresh from the oven!

[image loading]



Is the other one you were talking about some kind of weird dance party variation?

I wonder how much more effective the old Zealot Dance Party from WoL after an FE would be just by adding MSC. MSC slows roaches and stops them from kiting endlessly by using its ranged attacked. You'd have to harvest 100 more gas, but small price to pay for what it offers to the rush.
It's all fun and games until somebody gets 4gated.
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
May 27 2013 19:14 GMT
#34
On May 28 2013 03:30 SteveNick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 03:18 woreyour wrote:
hah! another variation to my non stop zealot spree. I've been using the other one with only zealots in 8-9 gates. Also I would have +1/+1 eventually. From a 4 gate warp prism to a 8-9 gate (props to some master poster weeks ago). Also I make gradually up to 2-3 prisms. in a prism you can also add a probe inside so you would be dropping him inside making a pylon somewhere hidden as well.

Panic trick: after warping a round of zealots move the prism to another location shift E and warp in to the nat/main depends who's hit first. To add to the hysteria, incoming prisms.

What joy! I never felt happiness in a trolling way. Banana smiles always.

Here's what I have as a rage sampler fresh from the oven!

[image loading]



Is the other one you were talking about some kind of weird dance party variation?

I wonder how much more effective the old Zealot Dance Party from WoL after an FE would be just by adding MSC. MSC slows roaches and stops them from kiting endlessly by using its ranged attacked. You'd have to harvest 100 more gas, but small price to pay for what it offers to the rush.


I was talking about this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412284

i tried this too and it is very effective, like smaller margin of losing but I think the all zealots one is faster. With this one I had an opponent having hydras and roaches and +1/+1 but still he lost. I think the zealot one would depend on the money time warp of roaches and this one just down right kills him + time warp = WIN! I am not sure if mutas could stop this thou.. maybe but you can still damage him hard and you just make 2 cannons in each expo.
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
Nayman
Profile Joined April 2013
3 Posts
May 27 2013 20:26 GMT
#35
I just got Man-Trained >_<

Almost held it, but eventually it was just too manly to hold and zealots just did a hard train on me....

Even killed the immortals...but then in came beastly stalker warpins !

I feel so abused
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 27 2013 20:32 GMT
#36
Very creepy photomontage :D
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
May 27 2013 20:37 GMT
#37
I think to beat this you need :
- 2 queens ready to focus fire the Warpprism
- Banelings to bust the zealot wall
- Tons of roaches
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
May 27 2013 20:53 GMT
#38
On May 28 2013 05:37 Insoleet wrote:
I think to beat this you need :
- 2 queens ready to focus fire the Warpprism
- Banelings to bust the zealot wall
- Tons of roaches


I think if you actually make banes roaches really arn't necessery? ling bane probably work better then roach bane
freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
May 27 2013 21:08 GMT
#39
On May 28 2013 05:26 Nayman wrote:
I just got Man-Trained >_<

Almost held it, but eventually it was just too manly to hold and zealots just did a hard train on me....

Even killed the immortals...but then in came beastly stalker warpins !

I feel so abused

Ur opponents name wasnt "Opmc HighEX" by any chance?

Cause while doing this build today i lost my 2 immortals really early and thaught the game was lost, warped in couple of stalkers and the Zealots still did the trick.

Even with loosing the immortals, this is still some brutal timing...
LOLZEY
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada71 Posts
May 27 2013 22:52 GMT
#40
I do not see this working at all against muta builds. Zergs can go greedy mutas on 2-base and squeeze out 6 - 8 mutas by 9 minutes, which is roughly when the first warp-in of zealots hit the zerg. If you don't see the mutas and you warp-in all zealots, well tough luck as he can just snipe the prism and then the immortals to clean-up.

I feel this hits only about 1 min earlier than the PartinG 3-immortal all in with a bunch of sentries, which is more powerful and more flexible.



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