EPTThe HotS Protoss Help Me Thread - Page 332
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imabigboi
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vhapter
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larrysc2
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imabigboi
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On March 09 2015 14:46 larrysc2 wrote: Any advice for beating hackers in pvp? Top 50 gm. I've played the same hacker about 5 times now and because the matchup is so build order driven I find myself ending up behind every game. 1 gate expand every game. If the hacker wanna be aggressive, just another allin to defend. If macro game, scout and make the right decision. Playing vs hacker is actually an opportunity to make ur game more solid, lol. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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imabigboi
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Olli
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imabigboi
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Assuming he sees the production tab ofc. Most hacks I've heard of do though. | ||
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imabigboi
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On March 09 2015 18:34 DarkLordOlli wrote: He can see the sentry in production, know exactly what's going on and react accordingly. Then, when you drop your followup tech, he reactively counters yours. Give me a maphack in PvP and I will never not be ahead. Assuming he sees the production tab ofc. Most hacks I've heard of do though. Ofc he will react to what you are doing, same as you will counter his after scouting his build. He has his timings, you have yours. For example, one of the worst situations is he gets a stargate after expand, but if you can scout it and make stalkers and defend ur worker line with photon overcharge, you are not in a bad spot after this timing. And with units advantage, you can take a fast 3rd, this is ur stronger timing. It's hard to play vs maphacker ofc, basically you have to scout in time and react perfectly. But I don't think if a maphacker has the same mmr as you, his understanding of this game would be at the same level as you. | ||
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Olli
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brickrd
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
So yeah, what you suggested is the best option. Report the guy, quit your games against him if you don't wanna waste time. | ||
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imabigboi
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On March 09 2015 19:59 DarkLordOlli wrote: We'll just have to agree to disagree. Doesn't matter you agree with me or not. Just wanna give a helpful answer. | ||
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PiPiGranDe
Canada70 Posts
Are there any competitive matches of Koreans using this style? Can someone link it for me please? | ||
Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
Also there's a good example of that style (much more aggressive than Stats' though) here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/477077-wcs-2015-season-1-maps-analysis | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On March 09 2015 14:46 larrysc2 wrote: Any advice for beating hackers in pvp? Top 50 gm. I've played the same hacker about 5 times now and because the matchup is so build order driven I find myself ending up behind every game. Sorry if I'm a little OT but if you are playing in NA you should simply consider switching to KR/EU, they're far more playable and there's better practice as well. If you're top 50 gm I assume you are playing mostly against maphackers and worse players overall. Besides, you can beat hackers in PvP even with aggressive builds just because they can't micro. For example, they often try to rush to sentries and fail when I go 10 gate into 3 gate. | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
Haven't played in a while and I kind of want to catch up on the meta. Where's a good place to start? Can someone give me a quick rundown of what's going on in each MU? Stopped playing and watching around October/November; now just getting back into it. | ||
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KatatoniK
United Kingdom978 Posts
My vetoes are Expedition Lost, Secret Spring and Overgrowth. | ||
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Ashent
Korea (South)109 Posts
Besides, you can beat hackers in PvP even with aggressive builds just because they can't micro. For example, they often try to rush to sentries and fail when I go 10 gate into 3 gate. While I agree that a hacker you're playing will likely be much worse in micro than you (as they have the same MMR as you do while having maphacks on) I have to disagree on this one.. If they see you 10 gate they will be able to directly counter it without even sending a 9 scout. Every game. Their micro would have to be leagues and leagues below you to lose this every time. | ||
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