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Make sure you read the OP before asking a question. Asking a question already addressed in the OP will result in moderation action. Also, please put some effort into your questions. Do not just ask for build orders.
Dracover
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia177 Posts
December 03 2015 00:46 GMT
#7321
On December 01 2015 22:22 Barthy wrote:
How to react to a zerg going fast 3 hatch ? in the replay below I tried to push out with adept and got 10 kills on drones but still lost and it was not even close. He countered pushed me with ravagers / roaches. Any idea what a good reaction would be ? Is there any way to go from a zerg going 3 hatch to a macro game on an equal foot ?

http://www.ggtracker.com/matches/6288410


I'm not as high level as you but this is what I do.

Usually I do some kinds of adept harass then, to tackle the ravage counter I've been pumping phoenix. Ravagers are not armored so you can snipe them as they leave the protection of queens and spores. Micro from the bombs but at the very least you can heavily delay it cause they'll be trying to zone your phoenix away to move across map. If they suicide through then you should be able to pick off 3-4 ravagers before he reaches you.
Don't stop
halomonian
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil255 Posts
December 03 2015 19:53 GMT
#7322
Has anyone been able/had time to compute the earliest rush possible timings?

As in "if he rushed for a liberator, the first one pops out at 2:31 and cant possibly have such and such" types of timing. If there is anyone working on this, I'd like to help
thoughts in chaos | enjOy[dream]
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
December 04 2015 03:18 GMT
#7323
LotV help me thread is up, ask questions there.
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
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