• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:22
CEST 03:22
KST 10:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War705.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202621Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Ziemie's Starcraft 1 Prequel Campaign Mineral Boosting (2 workers/patch)
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12470 users

[G] HTOMario's Understanding TvP mech. - Page 3

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
February 17 2013 11:32 GMT
#41
Really interesting thing to read
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 17 2013 16:27 GMT
#42
I just love your style!
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
February 17 2013 19:12 GMT
#43
On February 18 2013 01:27 llIH wrote:
I just love your style!


Thank you!
GM Mech T
dargul
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation125 Posts
February 18 2013 22:23 GMT
#44
Great article!
Can you please write something like this for TvZ and may be TvT [image loading]

Don't know how to handle ultra+viper with pure mech. I win only against impatient zergs who attack heavily fortified positions or choke points. And if zerg counterattack or using drops it's very easy to catch t unsiedged or clamped, and easy to kill for zerg with vipers.[image loading]

I saw your old replays but may be you are using some new strats?
In Stim We Trust
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
February 19 2013 02:14 GMT
#45
On February 19 2013 07:23 dargul wrote:
Great article!
Can you please write something like this for TvZ and may be TvT [image loading]

Don't know how to handle ultra+viper with pure mech. I win only against impatient zergs who attack heavily fortified positions or choke points. And if zerg counterattack or using drops it's very easy to catch t unsiedged or clamped, and easy to kill for zerg with vipers.[image loading]

I saw your old replays but may be you are using some new strats?


It's possible that I will in the future, at the moment I'm occupied with trying to improve my stream first.
GM Mech T
Vague
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
February 19 2013 03:10 GMT
#46
Thanks for this guide! I enjoy your stream quite a bit. I much rather see you play than to see people like DeMuslim, who just tries to play Wol in Hots.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 14:07:44
February 19 2013 14:06 GMT
#47
You should stream more often Mario!
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
February 19 2013 15:05 GMT
#48
On February 19 2013 23:06 llIH wrote:
You should stream more often Mario!


Hard to donate so much time to a hobby ^^ I need to win tournaments or something to be able to really donate more time into starcraft. I have my wife and kids to think about. <3
GM Mech T
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 19 2013 15:11 GMT
#49
Yeah. That can be hard I can imagine. But anyways. Thanks for streaming!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 19 2013 15:17 GMT
#50
"Ordered new PC for HD stream ETA 1 week"? :D You must be planning to use it! ))
VieuxSinge
Profile Joined February 2011
France231 Posts
February 19 2013 15:56 GMT
#51
I really don't understand why blizzard is promoting this type of deathball mech play and ignoring the siege tank.

This style is boring (positionning widow mines is fun though, but 1a hellbats/thors isn't really exciting and entertaining to watch).

I wish they would buff the siege tank damage output and nerf the hellbat's damage so that meching was all about the positionning again.

Anyway, thanks for your feedback Mario!
Another clue to my existence.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 19 2013 16:13 GMT
#52
Totally agree. I hate the Thor
Novacute
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia313 Posts
February 19 2013 16:42 GMT
#53
Thanks for the read. So sad that viable mech does not include siege tank as a core unit. It appears many higher level players almost exclusively use thors as their main composition, since they do exceptional damage (which tanks lack) and deal with smaller numbers of stargate units with reasonable efficiency.
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1162 Posts
February 19 2013 17:33 GMT
#54
It's not mech unless tanks are the core unit. Sadly this is impossible with 3 supply and poor DPS.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 17:45:28
February 19 2013 17:45 GMT
#55
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

As long as I'm not forced to research stim in TvP, I'll just shut up.
StarkHarrow
Profile Joined September 2012
3 Posts
February 19 2013 18:03 GMT
#56
Well... I suppose you can see things like that Everlong, but still... Hellbat/Thor is a poor design...

Anyway, yeah, thanks for the effort Mario.

I was watching your past vids and saw a Hellbat/Tank/Viking army being used in TvP.
Was in the first game of your game from yesterday.

Willing to give a try to a non thor based army ? (couldn't watch more than this, so i don't know if you tried again...)
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
February 19 2013 18:09 GMT
#57
On February 20 2013 03:03 StarkHarrow wrote:
Well... I suppose you can see things like that Everlong, but still... Hellbat/Thor is a poor design...

Anyway, yeah, thanks for the effort Mario.

I was watching your past vids and saw a Hellbat/Tank/Viking army being used in TvP.
Was in the first game of your game from yesterday.

Willing to give a try to a non thor based army ? (couldn't watch more than this, so i don't know if you tried again...)


I'm currently working on a more brood war like style with more tanks. It will take time to work out the kinks though.
GM Mech T
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
February 19 2013 18:36 GMT
#58
Cool build, will definately try. Is your "old" tvz mech build still viable?
Amove for Aiur
HTOMario
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States439 Posts
February 19 2013 18:41 GMT
#59
On February 20 2013 03:36 Snusmumriken wrote:
Cool build, will definately try. Is your "old" tvz mech build still viable?


It still works yes, I still use it from time to time. I've been preferring a really fast 3rd though,
GM Mech T
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
February 19 2013 18:44 GMT
#60
On February 20 2013 03:41 HTOMario wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 03:36 Snusmumriken wrote:
Cool build, will definately try. Is your "old" tvz mech build still viable?


It still works yes, I still use it from time to time. I've been preferring a really fast 3rd though,


ah okay. Any chance your going to update that guide soon as well?
Amove for Aiur
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
The QMC Showmatch 1
CranKy Ducklings43
OSC
08:00
Masters Cup #151: Group A
davetesta28
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 7491
Rain 1951
GuemChi 1248
Artosis 753
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm190
League of Legends
Doublelift5750
Counter-Strike
minikerr19
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe113
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1844
JimRising 559
C9.Mang0532
Livibee425
Maynarde148
Mew2King39
ArmadaUGS23
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1222
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 137
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP50
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
OSC
10h 38m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 9h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 22h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Online Event
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.