EPTAlso I use tab in that group to cycle through Warpgates, Gates, Stargates, Robotics...
Same thing with my Nexus group, I add most tech buildings to that group to manage upgrades.
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OskO
Argentina369 Posts
Also I use tab in that group to cycle through Warpgates, Gates, Stargates, Robotics... Same thing with my Nexus group, I add most tech buildings to that group to manage upgrades. | ||
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Revelatus
United States183 Posts
I have Immortal on E, cyber core on R, base on Space, 0 on `, patrol on q, hold position on W. I always hotkey my warpgates to 2 and have nexus on 3, robo 4 etc. This gives me ` and 1 for army hotkeys, plus I will put obs on 6-9 or any other units or forges that I want hotkeyed. Remark, does this sound okay? Do you see any major limitations with my setup? I am diamond protoss btw. | ||
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saladToss
United States75 Posts
You said you can scroll through all your nexuses using this, but I don't even know what it is. Is it like if you have all 3 of your nexuses hotkeyed to 3 - select them, then hit the button you will cycle through them? Is that option in the hotkey menu? Base Camera - that is. | ||
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:49 saladToss wrote: What exactly is "base camera?" You said you can scroll through all your nexuses using this, but I don't even know what it is. Is it like if you have all 3 of your nexuses hotkeyed to 3 - select them, then hit the button you will cycle through them? Is that option in the hotkey menu? Base Camera - that is. Exactly - each time you press that button, it jumps your camera to a nexus (and it does it in a consistent order, I think just the order in which they were made). On October 24 2012 00:16 Revelatus wrote: Remark, I have Immortal on E, cyber core on R, base on Space, 0 on `, patrol on q, hold position on W. I always hotkey my warpgates to 2 and have nexus on 3, robo 4 etc. This gives me ` and 1 for army hotkeys, plus I will put obs on 6-9 or any other units or forges that I want hotkeyed. Remark, does this sound okay? Do you see any major limitations with my setup? Looks great to me! As long as you're comfortable reaching your forges on 6-9 then I wouldn't make any changes (besides maybe adding camera location hotkeys to F1-F5 if you haven't done that). Also, someone suggested binding select idle worker to alt - that is an option, although very inconvenient to anyone who likes to use alt+tab while they play. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20342 Posts
1) move guardian shield a bit away from hold position. Fucking that up is not fun. I hear this all the time. Ive played like 1.5k games as protoss, build sentries literally every game, over-emphasize hotkey usage and have never once actuly messed that up using default g bind. There was one really painful game in MLG i think though, where HuK when gateway expanding against a zerg, accidentally cancelled warpgate at the last second, and then instead of restarting it with g, had a sentry selected and cast guardian shield instead. Two fatal mistakes like a second apart and he died on the spot IIRC | ||
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webby01
Czech Republic22 Posts
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ScarSSBM
United States21 Posts
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Spray
United States402 Posts
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weepingtweeter
United States9 Posts
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CCalms
United States341 Posts
On October 25 2012 11:28 weepingtweeter wrote: this is basically what day9 said in his refining mechanics video, minus the bind changes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKPDKtK4IMo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6nG0AaBl1A did you even read the guide O_O | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2574 Posts
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xHadoken
United States171 Posts
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On October 25 2012 14:11 AirbladeOrange wrote: I have the death adder mouse but I feel weird about using the buttons on it for hotkeys. I feel like it's cheating by giving me an unfair advantage. Am I crazy? How is it an unfair advantage? You're still using the same amount of actions... That's like saying it's unfair to use the core or rebind hotkeys because the key combos are easier to hit | ||
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B1itZZ
United Kingdom70 Posts
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
If we're talking hotkeys. I would be really interested in what you think about TheCore. | ||
Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:02 JaKaTaK wrote: I really really like having a camera for chrono boost areas, as well as for my proxy pylon and 1 for each base. If we're talking hotkeys. I would be really interested in what you think about TheCore. If you have good building placement, your chronoboost area should be your main base...see the screenshot in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332888 | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:02 JaKaTaK wrote: I really really like having a camera for chrono boost areas, as well as for my proxy pylon and 1 for each base. If we're talking hotkeys. I would be really interested in what you think about TheCore. Hmmm, I have trouble recommending any radically different hotkey structures (DarkGrid, TheCore, Chameleon, etc) for people of any league once they've got muscle memory for Default / the Grid hotkeys due to their steep learning curve. Here's a further explanation: If you're a lower league player, you need to focus on basic mechanics. I haven't seen any evidence for these more complicated hotkey setups producing faster mechanical growth (although I'll definitely accept that they are optimized in the sense that your finger motions are more economical and efficient). For a lower league player to drop the mechanics they have to re-learn a more complicated scheme that will take longer to master is a tough sell to make. If you're a pro or competitive level player, then chances are you already have good mechanics. It might be possible that you could achieve a higher level of mechanical proficiency by switching over to TheCore, but you'd have a steep learning curve where you are only capable of practicing mechanics and everyone else is both improving their mechanics AND developing new builds, keeping up with the metagame, etc. I guess the way I see it is, you can already be very, very competent mechanically with default hotkeys using only minor adjustments. And as far as I can tell, there's no proof that once you get over the learning curve you improve faster. As an example from one of the testimonials in your thread: "Top 8 gold 50% Win rate Standard keys Top 25 Gold 0% win rate The Core 1-5days Top 8 Gold 50% win rate The core 1 week- 2 weeks Top 25 Plat 60%-70% win rate 2 weeks +" This guy spent 5 days~ of practice to get back to his former skill level, where he remained for 2 weeks~, then got promoted to plat. That looks like an average / standard rate of skill progression to me - I think if he practiced as hard as he did after switching to TheCore, he would have gotten promoted in the same amount of time (2 weeks) minus the learning curve of new hotkeys (5 days). I'll talk to Sandbox sometime and learn more about how it's affected his level of play, but I have trouble recommending Hotkey setups that are so different from standard hotkeys to anyone who already has muscle memory. I tried the DarkGrid setup for 2-3 weeks and found that even once I was used to it, my mechanics weren't any better than before and I had fallen behind my peers substantially in that time. I don't think the steep learning curve is worth the relatively small (potentially non-existent) reward. For a new player though, someone with no muscle memory at all, then TheCore or any of those other setups could be a good fit, as the learning curve would be even with the normal hotkeys. | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
I feel like getting a promotion in 2 weeks is absolutely not a standard skill progression. Most people i know in the BSGP take months to get a promotion. | ||
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DarkQ
30 Posts
Only 'Q' and '^'(german keyboard ^^, the thing left to 1) I use ^ for another controllgroup and Q to patrol | ||
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