EPTOn July 21 2012 00:53 StatixEx wrote:
im having the exact same problem. im there going macro build spotting expansions and denying anymore and then 8 thors come packed up down the field. I can hold 1 push with my 120ish food, 3 bases 60 drones, 4 queens then roaches but then when the next salvo comes im relying on spines to hold my already secured bases.
this is there my mechanics and control let me down. you beat it with mass lings, a few banes and roaches/6blords
Im only gold leveler so of course.
its essential that you split and target fire each thor with 30+ roaches, you need then hotkey a few banes and take out any repairing scvs, ive noticed in all of my games they always have a few scvs with them, now heres the big thing, i always tech lords so not a problem for me but i make 8 mutalisks and just annoy him . . if he falls for it, hell pull the thors back, you go crazy on ling reinforcements. when he comes back (maybe with another thor) surround! Ive usually got 2/2/2 by this point of the game and i will say sometimes this doesnt work, if hes expanding behind all of this then ive never won using this but the battles go on forever, always 40 minute+ games.
My problem of course in low league is control and cost efficient trades, i know i can beat it but an A moving terran army with splash damage is hard. Its soo cool of a feeling when you nail it and overcome it though and these replays go in my feelGood folder
im having the exact same problem. im there going macro build spotting expansions and denying anymore and then 8 thors come packed up down the field. I can hold 1 push with my 120ish food, 3 bases 60 drones, 4 queens then roaches but then when the next salvo comes im relying on spines to hold my already secured bases.
this is there my mechanics and control let me down. you beat it with mass lings, a few banes and roaches/6blords
Im only gold leveler so of course.
its essential that you split and target fire each thor with 30+ roaches, you need then hotkey a few banes and take out any repairing scvs, ive noticed in all of my games they always have a few scvs with them, now heres the big thing, i always tech lords so not a problem for me but i make 8 mutalisks and just annoy him . . if he falls for it, hell pull the thors back, you go crazy on ling reinforcements. when he comes back (maybe with another thor) surround! Ive usually got 2/2/2 by this point of the game and i will say sometimes this doesnt work, if hes expanding behind all of this then ive never won using this but the battles go on forever, always 40 minute+ games.
My problem of course in low league is control and cost efficient trades, i know i can beat it but an A moving terran army with splash damage is hard. Its soo cool of a feeling when you nail it and overcome it though and these replays go in my feelGood folder
spines are useless against thors.
there are 4 options:
1) trade a lot with roaches/banelings IF he has no tanks and his thor count is low. drops, burrow, catching him as he leaves his base, anything to keep his thor count low. contain him to 2 bases, keep map control. if he tries to fight and you know youre gonna lose, back off and wait for more units and/or backstab
2) roach infestor+neural direct fight. beware of tanks here again, losing infestors to tanks is bad. again, this is about trading and leaving his thor count low.
3) go straight to hive. do not pass go. do not collect 200 dollars. i prefer broodlord/infestor here to ultra crackling. make sure to spread broodlords
4) if hes really tank/hellion heavy, mutas. magic box the few thors he has, take map control, deny the third, etc.
5) if he has no tanks at all: NESTEAAAAA
basically, if you don't let him take a third, you'll usually be fine. a good place to fight is right as he's taking his third. when he repositions his army, if you can hit at that exact moment, you should be good. this does take a lot of scouting though
