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nonsequitur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
384 Posts
July 31 2012 18:40 GMT
#921
Those that have patched to 1.5, is your "center camera on current selection" key (default is control+f) acting strangely? Occasionally after I center the camera on a unit, it seems the command doesn't get released and continues to center the camera on any units I click afterwards.

For example, after I hit ctrl+f to center the camera on a hatch, sometimes the camera will continue to follow any other units I click even though I'm not holding down ctrl+f.
meursault
Profile Joined January 2011
United States59 Posts
July 31 2012 19:06 GMT
#922
I tried this for about 2 hrs last night and found it rather difficult to adjust to. In particular I had trouble with m and k on the Protoss layout. Do I need to specifically practice those or is this a sign Ithis may not be for me? I used to be quite good at flute and violin so I'd like to think I can learn finger movements effectively.
poeticEnnui
Profile Joined September 2010
United States78 Posts
July 31 2012 19:16 GMT
#923
It takes far more than two hours to adjust to The Core. I'd recommend playing it for at least that long every day and see how you feel after a week.
meursault
Profile Joined January 2011
United States59 Posts
July 31 2012 19:46 GMT
#924
On August 01 2012 04:16 poeticEnnui wrote:
It takes far more than two hours to adjust to The Core. I'd recommend playing it for at least that long every day and see how you feel after a week.


Thanks! I'll continue working on it. So far the hardest part seems to be the pinky fingerings. In particular m seems hard to do any sort if hold position micro with. In people's experience does your pinky eventually learn?
JDub
Profile Joined December 2010
United States976 Posts
July 31 2012 20:19 GMT
#925
On August 01 2012 04:46 meursault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 04:16 poeticEnnui wrote:
It takes far more than two hours to adjust to The Core. I'd recommend playing it for at least that long every day and see how you feel after a week.


Thanks! I'll continue working on it. So far the hardest part seems to be the pinky fingerings. In particular m seems hard to do any sort if hold position micro with. In people's experience does your pinky eventually learn?

Do you have your keyboard tilted to an appropriate angle as in the video tutorial? Tilting your keyboard so your pinky bends naturally from 'j' to 'm' is very helpful. I've played 2 sessions now with TheCore, each about ~3-4 hours, and I'm starting to adjust to it nicely (I was very frustrated after my first session, but after sleeping on it and playing again it went much better). I was mid-Masters before switching and I fell a bunch (losing about ~10 straight games) but I'm back beating low masters players again, and my pinky has definitely gotten accustomed to pressing 'j', 'm', 'h' all the time.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
August 01 2012 01:23 GMT
#926
On August 01 2012 03:06 Hancho wrote:
Hi
i created this images because i think their are better than a table for the start (Frequently Asked Questions: 4. Which keys do I press with which fingers?).
The qualitiy is not the best maybe you can do it better with your original keyboard image.
Maybe you can mark the standard position JIOP.
It helps me and i hope others too

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]

gl hf


Holy shit, thanks so much man, I'll get em into the OP :D
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FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
August 01 2012 01:29 GMT
#927
Very cool stuff guys! Ty Hancho.

Yes, it's going to take more than 2 hours. It will start feeling way more natural one day -- assuming you don't have an abnormally shaped hand.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
August 01 2012 01:43 GMT
#928
Will you guys be ready with the core for HOTS? =D

My experience with it has gotten so much better by the way. It took me probably around 30 games against the CPU to get comfortable with it, then 40 regular games on ladder to get on par with the way I were before the switch. I consider myself a slow to moderate learner. However I'm starting to really feel the potential now and with every game I get a little bit better. Sometimes you have to take 4 steps back to eventually take 5 steps forward. Without a doubt this is the right move. So props guys and thank you.
"Right on" - Morrow
asdir
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany39 Posts
August 01 2012 08:39 GMT
#929
On August 01 2012 03:06 Hancho wrote:
Hi
i created this images because i think their are better than a table for the start (Frequently Asked Questions: 4. Which keys do I press with which fingers?).
The qualitiy is not the best maybe you can do it better with your original keyboard image.
Maybe you can mark the standard position JIOP.
It helps me and i hope others too

[image loading]

gl hf



Not to make a big issue out of this, but aren't 0 and 9 supposed to be hit with middle and index, respectively? At least I use those two to spam (active tumor and one hatch for me). I even thought they were meant to be used that way with 4th/5th-mouse-setups.
bduc
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland1 Post
August 01 2012 12:45 GMT
#930
On August 01 2012 03:40 nonsequitur wrote:
Those that have patched to 1.5, is your "center camera on current selection" key (default is control+f) acting strangely? Occasionally after I center the camera on a unit, it seems the command doesn't get released and continues to center the camera on any units I click afterwards.

For example, after I hit ctrl+f to center the camera on a hatch, sometimes the camera will continue to follow any other units I click even though I'm not holding down ctrl+f.


Yes! Mine is on Right Alt and it only centers after I've held it down for about a second. Very annoying.
maLaK1
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany124 Posts
August 01 2012 13:22 GMT
#931
On July 31 2012 20:37 Czarnodziej wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 03:16 JaKaTaK wrote:
I'm thinking about making the cancel and idle worker keys more accessible.

How do you guys feel about
6 for cancel (hit it with the ring finger, should feel similar to the old hitting escape and easier than F8) and
= or Backspace for idle worker?

EDIT: 7 for cancel and ` for idle worker for lefties


6 for cancel? HELL NO, F8 is perfect as it is atm.

Backspace for idle worker? Cool


yes I agree too, F8 is perfect for me
maLaK1
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany124 Posts
August 01 2012 13:24 GMT
#932
On August 01 2012 21:45 bduc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 03:40 nonsequitur wrote:
Those that have patched to 1.5, is your "center camera on current selection" key (default is control+f) acting strangely? Occasionally after I center the camera on a unit, it seems the command doesn't get released and continues to center the camera on any units I click afterwards.

For example, after I hit ctrl+f to center the camera on a hatch, sometimes the camera will continue to follow any other units I click even though I'm not holding down ctrl+f.


Yes! Mine is on Right Alt and it only centers after I've held it down for about a second. Very annoying.



i have the same problem
-Scythe-
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark4 Posts
August 01 2012 13:56 GMT
#933
"But this was only the start. LiquidTyler (now back to NonY) broke both our minds out of the box. He said on State of the Game that he moved everything to the left side of the keyboard. Once the box was broken, we ran with it."

I don't understand? Wouldn't the genious thing be to move it to the right?
Probes are sick.
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
August 01 2012 16:45 GMT
#934
On August 01 2012 22:56 -Scythe- wrote:
"But this was only the start. LiquidTyler (now back to NonY) broke both our minds out of the box. He said on State of the Game that he moved everything to the left side of the keyboard. Once the box was broken, we ran with it."

I don't understand? Wouldn't the genious thing be to move it to the right?


That is the genius of thecore, but the seed that nony planted was consolidation of keys.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
August 01 2012 16:59 GMT
#935
On August 01 2012 17:39 asdir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 03:06 Hancho wrote:
Hi
i created this images because i think their are better than a table for the start (Frequently Asked Questions: 4. Which keys do I press with which fingers?).
The qualitiy is not the best maybe you can do it better with your original keyboard image.
Maybe you can mark the standard position JIOP.
It helps me and i hope others too

[image loading]

gl hf



Not to make a big issue out of this, but aren't 0 and 9 supposed to be hit with middle and index, respectively? At least I use those two to spam (active tumor and one hatch for me). I even thought they were meant to be used that way with 4th/5th-mouse-setups.


0 and 9 are both supposed to be hit with the middle finger. This is the fastest, most ergonomic choice. However, if you are hitting them in combination, it would make sense to use index and middle alternating, although this would be much better on a finger meant to be pressed with the index. For example, going back and forth between 9 and ; instead of 9 and 0.
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Trumman
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden5 Posts
August 01 2012 18:49 GMT
#936
Did the Right/Left hand mouse for Nordic get mixed up?
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
August 01 2012 21:59 GMT
#937
On August 01 2012 22:56 -Scythe- wrote:
"But this was only the start. LiquidTyler (now back to NonY) broke both our minds out of the box. He said on State of the Game that he moved everything to the left side of the keyboard. Once the box was broken, we ran with it."

I don't understand? Wouldn't the genious thing be to move it to the right?

He moved uneccessarily out-of-the-way keys (such as I for immo) closer to the base keys (asdf).

That idea led to the brainstorming that became this hotkey layout.
Thunderflesh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States382 Posts
August 02 2012 02:57 GMT
#938
Did the stutter step problem ever get fixed (esp. for terran bio)?
You'll worry less about what people think about you when you realize how seldom they do.
kamyker
Profile Joined August 2012
Poland6 Posts
August 02 2012 14:12 GMT
#939
Why SCV is on I? All things, which are "most clicked" are on J but SCVs is on I. I dont understand that.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
August 02 2012 14:53 GMT
#940
@Trumman
The right handed mouse players should be JIOP home keys,
The left handed mouse players should be WERG home keys.

@Thunderflesh
yes

@kamyker
because the planetary fortress is an attacking building. try to bind it to J and see what happens

glad to see so many new faces.
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