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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 15:35:06
December 22 2015 15:32 GMT
#7961
On December 20 2015 15:46 riotjune wrote:
The four home keys get CtrlGroup1, CtrlGroup2, Ability1, and Ability2. So like, does Attack count as Ability1? And Ability2 is the most used spell (Stim, Blink, etc.)?

Also, do you guys use TheCore's Shift+# (create control group) more than Ctrl+# (add to control group)? I'm thinking about switching Ctrl and Shift back to their defaults, as I add units to existing control groups (as well as create new ones if it's already empty) after every production cycle from midgame on, and Shift is easier to reach if I'm going to be using that key more. What was the reasoning behind the Ctrl-Shift switch in TheCore's layout?

On December 22 2015 23:47 Siglemic wrote:
the reasoning is to be able to ctrl click a bunch of units, or ctrl click your larva eggs, hold that ctrl input and add it to a hotkey

Double click to select same units and shift add to control group would probably be faster since you don't have to stretch your thumb out to reach Ctrl. Though there are times when I double click a unit/building and it doesn't select them all for some reason, don't know what's up with that. If Ctrl click is favored over double click to prevent that from happening I would see the justification (also decreases work of index finger I guess). Is double clicking not recommended or something?
Siglemic
Profile Joined January 2012
8 Posts
December 22 2015 16:43 GMT
#7962
with fast moving little units like lings, double clicking is much less certain. i'd go with the ctrl click

but hey its ur life man
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-23 10:20:23
December 23 2015 09:29 GMT
#7963
Using RRM since it gets updated more and it's what everyone here is using anyway, plus the layout is more intuitive. Maybe I can start playing random again.

Home keys: JIOP RCtrl for thumb
J(cg1): Macro Army
O(cg2): Army1
L(cg3): Army2/Spellcasters/Tanks
9(cg4): Army3/Drop/Air units/whatever
0(cg5): Macro Economy/Upgrades
Some mouse button for tabbing J and 0 macro groups

Spell1 is most used/only spell, guess Spell3 is least used:
K: Spell1 RF
;: Spell2
-: Spell2 RF
I: Spell3
': Spell3 RF

Pretty much what MassSpecd and I guess everyone else is using.

P for Attack is nice, using it for everything with the occasional [ for Hold. And Ctrl click > dbl click, reason I'm making thumb home key as RCtrl over RShift since I like to select all same units fairly often (still kind of a stretch for me though).

Anyway, that's the base I'm going to stick with before making any changes, until 3.0 arrives anyway (when???). If it's still far off, I'm thinking about making ctrl:add/steal and ctrl/shift:create/steal as well.
JamesMantis
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy5 Posts
December 23 2015 16:55 GMT
#7964
I just downloaded the TRL config both 1 and 2.0 and a lot of hotkeys are missing and are marked red. Is it normal?
dahappychappy
Profile Joined July 2015
19 Posts
December 24 2015 08:43 GMT
#7965
you either have to add them in yourself. or you can find my recent post or someone elses and see how they set them up. When the new and improved 3.0 keys come out then there will be no red.

InspectorPing
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany8 Posts
December 25 2015 13:39 GMT
#7966
I guess this has been asked before, but I did not really find an answer for it.
So the larva inject video seems to be out of date, since the used hotkeys are different in the video. Injecting with camera locations seems to be very inefficient now, since you have to let go of ctrl every time you inject, then hit it again to jump to the next location.

What is the intended way of doing this now with TheCore 2.0? I'm using the ZRM layout btw.
Thanks!
dahappychappy
Profile Joined July 2015
19 Posts
December 25 2015 21:37 GMT
#7967
To inject I use the base location camera hotkey = make a huge box to priority select the queen, hold shift and then hold - which will que up all the injects as - is rapid fire just hold - until the red cross show the queens can do anymore. Then hit the = to go to the next base. I am sure this is probably not the most efficient. But it will stop wandering queens and such.


Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
December 28 2015 10:56 GMT
#7968
dahappychappy do the same thing with location cameras. It is a great method using camera location.
P.S. don't make a huge box make a queen sized box. Toward the location of the hatchery.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
telfire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States415 Posts
December 28 2015 11:40 GMT
#7969
On December 23 2015 00:32 riotjune wrote:Is double clicking not recommended or something?


It is one of the things Jak makes you swear never to do in the staircase videos :^p
BanBe
Profile Joined December 2015
2 Posts
December 28 2015 15:22 GMT
#7970
Hey guys,
does anyone know, how i can change "Select Unit Type" [shift+Select Unit] and "Add to Selection" [ctrl+Select Unit]?
I can´t find the options for that.
Ehtele
Profile Joined July 2012
Norway8 Posts
December 28 2015 18:55 GMT
#7971
Hi,
I have been away from SC2 and TheCore for almost 3 years now.

Now trying to learn TheCore 2.0 ZRM.

- How do you creep spread with 2.0 ZRM? I have been wrapping my head around the spreadsheet, but I have not figured out a fluent method. Nor have I found any updated information on this in this thread.

Yours sincerely,
Ehtele - EU.
MilExo
Profile Joined September 2011
South Africa139 Posts
December 28 2015 19:04 GMT
#7972
On December 29 2015 00:22 BanBe wrote:
Hey guys,
does anyone know, how i can change "Select Unit Type" [shift+Select Unit] and "Add to Selection" [ctrl+Select Unit]?
I can´t find the options for that.


Hotkeys - Global - Control Groups
BanBe
Profile Joined December 2015
2 Posts
December 28 2015 19:36 GMT
#7973
@ MilExo,
I don´t mean the Control Groups.
I mean the function to select all Units on the screen (with "double klick one Unit" or "shift+Select Unit" in TheCore).
And the function to Add to Selection/ Deselect from Selection (with "ctrl+Select Unit" in TheCore).
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
December 28 2015 20:32 GMT
#7974
Been messing a lot with modifiers. It'll probably be race based which ones we use for what. e.g. zerg will be best to have add, add steal, and create. But terran's can make better use of create steal instead of add steal. Closing in on a decision, but the main limiting factor is the actual grind of building the layouts.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
MilExo
Profile Joined September 2011
South Africa139 Posts
December 28 2015 20:49 GMT
#7975
@BanBe, those settings you cannot alter as they are hardcoded in the game. Control+Click will always select all of the same unit type. If you want to change that to Shift, you would need software to change what your keys does, effectively changing your "Shift" key to become "Ctrl". This is not unique to TheCore, but is the same for every hotkey layout in the game.
Beedebdoo
Profile Joined June 2013
130 Posts
December 28 2015 21:00 GMT
#7976
@JaK
What is the decision of Add and Create steal for Terran based on?
MaxStout
Profile Joined August 2015
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 03:37:02
December 29 2015 03:36 GMT
#7977
@Jak

Hey Jak!



Been using the core for a while! I am a music teacher (piano mostly) and the ergonomic/technical benefits appeal to me greatly as there is considerable overlap between the two disciplines. Was wondering about tge resources->1.0 Control Groups, Abilites, and Cameras->random->right handed .jpegs/.gifs. They are all listed a protoss and the control groups, etc. are WAY different!

I have been converting several of my friends/students to the core, but they are all asking for the correct RRM visual aids! Anyway we can get them posted/updated?

Thnx a million!

Aloha From Maui!

MaxStout
This feels familiar...where have I been here before?
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
December 29 2015 07:36 GMT
#7978
Been messing a lot with modifiers. It'll probably be race based which ones we use for what. e.g. zerg will be best to have add, add steal, and create. But terran's can make better use of create steal instead of add steal. Closing in on a decision, but the main limiting factor is the actual grind of building the layouts.


I use a + version of ZRM 2.0. Shift at application key, control on shift, and alt on ctrl. I use Shift + Control for create, create steal on shift, and add steal on control. I myself do not use any shared control groups, therefore I only use the "steal" modifiers. I feel like many other zergs do not use shared control groups.

My question for you Jak is why should zerg have regular create?
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 17:54:57
December 29 2015 17:50 GMT
#7979
On December 29 2015 06:00 Beedebdoo wrote:
@JaK
What is the decision of Add and Create steal for Terran based on?


The new Terran Drop action sequence.


On December 29 2015 16:36 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
Been messing a lot with modifiers. It'll probably be race based which ones we use for what. e.g. zerg will be best to have add, add steal, and create. But terran's can make better use of create steal instead of add steal. Closing in on a decision, but the main limiting factor is the actual grind of building the layouts.


I use a + version of ZRM 2.0. Shift at application key, control on shift, and alt on ctrl. I use Shift + Control for create, create steal on shift, and add steal on control. I myself do not use any shared control groups, therefore I only use the "steal" modifiers. I feel like many other zergs do not use shared control groups.

My question for you Jak is why should zerg have regular create?


Control Group Cloning in ling bane wars.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Op
Profile Joined November 2012
73 Posts
December 29 2015 19:17 GMT
#7980
On December 24 2015 17:43 dahappychappy wrote:
you either have to add them in yourself. or you can find my recent post or someone elses and see how they set them up. When the new and improved 3.0 keys come out then there will be no red.


Hi,

Any idea about when TheCore 3.0 will be ready ?
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