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JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 23 2012 21:13 GMT
#461
PROTOSS SPECIFIC LAYOUTS ARE DONE!!!

updating the OP right now, the skydrive is already updated :D
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Bananenbaum
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 23:59:59
June 23 2012 23:25 GMT
#462
Here are some more translations for keyboards in the german layout for Version 0.2:

PLM
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxsQ7zW2ZdblRW9yTHhNVzJ6Mk0
PLMM
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxsQ7zW2ZdblZ3pZOWU3VFBrcDA
PRM
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxsQ7zW2ZdbldUhaSGwyS1o3Tnc
PRMM
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxsQ7zW2ZdblZjE4Z0ZsSmpad1U
ZLM
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxsQ7zW2ZdblR0tPV0J4T3l2MXM
ZLMM
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxsQ7zW2ZdblN296U0JNSDFTUzA
ZRM
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxsQ7zW2ZdblTXpjUUNxRGFwVms
ZRMM
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxsQ7zW2ZdblaEJlUHNBbHhOa2c

Have fun with your new layout !
tinyblckazn
Profile Joined June 2012
China7 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 00:00:01
June 23 2012 23:59 GMT
#463
Hai. Just dled and installed latest version RRM 02. For build basic structure, my key is on the opposite side of kb to where my kb hand usually rests. I assume this is due to kb differences between US and EU. Can I just confirm where it is meant to be? I am guessing it's the key to the left of ENTER.

Thanks for replies.
barrykp
Profile Joined August 2010
Ireland174 Posts
June 24 2012 00:02 GMT
#464
I have been trying the zerg layout today and I have a question about the apostrophe key ' (to the right of the ; key). As far as I can tell it is set to tell a drone to gather resources (a key I don't think I have ever used). Is there another function for this key that I couldn't find? It seems like it could easily be a control group or something that is used more often.

As far as my overall impressions of it go it's quite good I think, definitely better than the random layout for zerg. I especially like that I don't need my thumb to make zerglings anymore. The main things that are awkward in my opinion are the hotkey for baneling nest (7) and the , and . control groups (the former moreso than the latter).
Lecture me some more on how to play please; I need help.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 01:15:24
June 24 2012 01:11 GMT
#465
On June 24 2012 08:59 tinyblckazn wrote:
Hai. Just dled and installed latest version RRM 02. For build basic structure, my key is on the opposite side of kb to where my kb hand usually rests. I assume this is due to kb differences between US and EU. Can I just confirm where it is meant to be? I am guessing it's the key to the left of ENTER.

Thanks for replies.

Took me a while to find out you meant keyboard instead of kb. It's not like everything in English is an abbreviation

Anyways, you keyboard hand is supposed to be on the end of the keyboard closer to your hand. The thumb goes over control and shift, while your other fingers are on either werg or jiop, depending on whether you are a lefty or a righty, respectively.

It is made this way so that the thumb, the strongest finger, is almost always on of the most used key, or shift.

One more thing, tilt your keyboard about 12 degrees on the side of the keyboard opposite to where your hand is resting, or else you'll strain your hand a little.

This layout is unorthodox to be sure, but it works.
ellaguru
Profile Joined March 2012
United States35 Posts
June 24 2012 04:27 GMT
#466
the first post has Random Zerg and Protoss as race choices.
it no longer has terran.
little goof in the edit i believe.
unless you specifically took terran down for the moment.
NiKoJa
Profile Joined June 2012
26 Posts
June 24 2012 05:12 GMT
#467
Hi, 2 things:

i dont understend any fuck of all the 24 pages of comments

where is the terran layout?

peace out
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 05:34:54
June 24 2012 05:33 GMT
#468
There is no Terran layout. There never was. Only Zuul. You're trapped in inefficiency forever! ;..;

Haha, it's not finished yet. It'll be out in a day or two, depending on if Jak does any SC2 work on Sundays.

0.2 random just came out last Wednesday(?), and Jak's plan is to branch off from random into the other races. Just some tweaks here and there to optimize it for each race. Nothing too big. It still might mess you up a lot if you're used to random, though.

Seriously though, there has never been a Terran-specific layout yet.
ellaguru
Profile Joined March 2012
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 06:19:15
June 24 2012 06:11 GMT
#469
then what exactly have i been practicing the last week?

[image loading]


feels like im taking crazy pills here
Bananenbaum
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany18 Posts
June 24 2012 09:23 GMT
#470
On June 24 2012 15:11 ellaguru wrote:
then what exactly have i been practicing the last week?

[image loading]


feels like im taking crazy pills here



You've been practising the layout for random players since the version for terran players isn't done yet. The image just shows how you''re supposed to use the random layout as a terran player. (if you look at the top of the image you can see that it says "Random-Righty-No Mouse")
The random layout is a compromise, so that every race is as optimised as possible without sacrificing efficiency when playing the other races, so basicaly there's an equal "split" of efficiency; the race specific layouts are/will be optimised for the one race you're playing and after that is done, the other races' hotkeys will be build similar to that race, that way you're using the same hotkeys for similar things, all to make offracing more comfortable.
tinyblckazn
Profile Joined June 2012
China7 Posts
June 24 2012 12:51 GMT
#471
On June 24 2012 10:11 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 08:59 tinyblckazn wrote:
Hai. Just dled and installed latest version RRM 02. For build basic structure, my key is on the opposite side of kb to where my kb hand usually rests. I assume this is due to kb differences between US and EU. Can I just confirm where it is meant to be? I am guessing it's the key to the left of ENTER.

Thanks for replies.

Took me a while to find out you meant keyboard instead of kb. It's not like everything in English is an abbreviation

Anyways, you keyboard hand is supposed to be on the end of the keyboard closer to your hand. The thumb goes over control and shift, while your other fingers are on either werg or jiop, depending on whether you are a lefty or a righty, respectively.

It is made this way so that the thumb, the strongest finger, is almost always on of the most used key, or shift.

One more thing, tilt your keyboard about 12 degrees on the side of the keyboard opposite to where your hand is resting, or else you'll strain your hand a little.

This layout is unorthodox to be sure, but it works.


Hai. Thanks for the reply. And yeah my bad for using that abbreviation. Didn't think about it. And yes, I knew the idea behind TheCore. Guess I wasn't clear on what I meant. I use the mouse with right hand and keyboard with left. Therefore my left hand plays on the right side of the keyboard. However, my build structures button when I installed TheCore RRM was on the key 3 which is quite a stretch from the JIOP resting position.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 24 2012 14:26 GMT
#472
On June 24 2012 21:51 tinyblckazn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 10:11 Antylamon wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:59 tinyblckazn wrote:
Hai. Just dled and installed latest version RRM 02. For build basic structure, my key is on the opposite side of kb to where my kb hand usually rests. I assume this is due to kb differences between US and EU. Can I just confirm where it is meant to be? I am guessing it's the key to the left of ENTER.

Thanks for replies.

Took me a while to find out you meant keyboard instead of kb. It's not like everything in English is an abbreviation

Anyways, you keyboard hand is supposed to be on the end of the keyboard closer to your hand. The thumb goes over control and shift, while your other fingers are on either werg or jiop, depending on whether you are a lefty or a righty, respectively.

It is made this way so that the thumb, the strongest finger, is almost always on of the most used key, or shift.

One more thing, tilt your keyboard about 12 degrees on the side of the keyboard opposite to where your hand is resting, or else you'll strain your hand a little.

This layout is unorthodox to be sure, but it works.


Hai. Thanks for the reply. And yeah my bad for using that abbreviation. Didn't think about it. And yes, I knew the idea behind TheCore. Guess I wasn't clear on what I meant. I use the mouse with right hand and keyboard with left. Therefore my left hand plays on the right side of the keyboard. However, my build structures button when I installed TheCore RRM was on the key 3 which is quite a stretch from the JIOP resting position.

Oh, lol. do you have a Chinese keyboard? Because regional keyboards differing from the US sometimes have some issues. Maybe you or someone else could make a Chinese version of the layout?
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 14:36:53
June 24 2012 14:34 GMT
#473
On June 24 2012 15:11 ellaguru wrote:
then what exactly have i been practicing the last week?
+ Show Spoiler [Image Snip] +

[image loading]

feels like im taking crazy pills here

[image loading]
These are the extent of my pro photoshop skills lol
tinyblckazn
Profile Joined June 2012
China7 Posts
June 24 2012 16:15 GMT
#474
On June 24 2012 23:26 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 21:51 tinyblckazn wrote:
On June 24 2012 10:11 Antylamon wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:59 tinyblckazn wrote:
Hai. Just dled and installed latest version RRM 02. For build basic structure, my key is on the opposite side of kb to where my kb hand usually rests. I assume this is due to kb differences between US and EU. Can I just confirm where it is meant to be? I am guessing it's the key to the left of ENTER.

Thanks for replies.

Took me a while to find out you meant keyboard instead of kb. It's not like everything in English is an abbreviation

Anyways, you keyboard hand is supposed to be on the end of the keyboard closer to your hand. The thumb goes over control and shift, while your other fingers are on either werg or jiop, depending on whether you are a lefty or a righty, respectively.

It is made this way so that the thumb, the strongest finger, is almost always on of the most used key, or shift.

One more thing, tilt your keyboard about 12 degrees on the side of the keyboard opposite to where your hand is resting, or else you'll strain your hand a little.

This layout is unorthodox to be sure, but it works.


Hai. Thanks for the reply. And yeah my bad for using that abbreviation. Didn't think about it. And yes, I knew the idea behind TheCore. Guess I wasn't clear on what I meant. I use the mouse with right hand and keyboard with left. Therefore my left hand plays on the right side of the keyboard. However, my build structures button when I installed TheCore RRM was on the key 3 which is quite a stretch from the JIOP resting position.

Oh, lol. do you have a Chinese keyboard? Because regional keyboards differing from the US sometimes have some issues. Maybe you or someone else could make a Chinese version of the layout?


Haha nao. Just an EU layout keyboard. Where is build basic structure for you? Is it the key the to left of enter? That key for me at the moment is gather resources. Where is gather resources for you? Thanks for replies.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
June 24 2012 16:18 GMT
#475
Ok ! I'm finally gonna make an Azerty version, what with exams being finished and everything. What versions should I translate in priority ? Should I use the no-yet-updated-in-the-hotkey-files change log in the OP ?
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 24 2012 16:25 GMT
#476
Going live right now to respond to questions and work on the TERRAN SPECIFIC LAYOUT!!! So far I've been able to bang out 1 per day, here's hoping (crosses fingers and makes silly faces of exaggerated hope)

http://www.twitch.tv/thejakatak
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 16:45:42
June 24 2012 16:42 GMT
#477
On June 25 2012 01:15 tinyblckazn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 23:26 Antylamon wrote:
On June 24 2012 21:51 tinyblckazn wrote:
On June 24 2012 10:11 Antylamon wrote:
On June 24 2012 08:59 tinyblckazn wrote:
Hai. Just dled and installed latest version RRM 02. For build basic structure, my key is on the opposite side of kb to where my kb hand usually rests. I assume this is due to kb differences between US and EU. Can I just confirm where it is meant to be? I am guessing it's the key to the left of ENTER.

Thanks for replies.

Took me a while to find out you meant keyboard instead of kb. It's not like everything in English is an abbreviation

Anyways, you keyboard hand is supposed to be on the end of the keyboard closer to your hand. The thumb goes over control and shift, while your other fingers are on either werg or jiop, depending on whether you are a lefty or a righty, respectively.

It is made this way so that the thumb, the strongest finger, is almost always on of the most used key, or shift.

One more thing, tilt your keyboard about 12 degrees on the side of the keyboard opposite to where your hand is resting, or else you'll strain your hand a little.

This layout is unorthodox to be sure, but it works.


Hai. Thanks for the reply. And yeah my bad for using that abbreviation. Didn't think about it. And yes, I knew the idea behind TheCore. Guess I wasn't clear on what I meant. I use the mouse with right hand and keyboard with left. Therefore my left hand plays on the right side of the keyboard. However, my build structures button when I installed TheCore RRM was on the key 3 which is quite a stretch from the JIOP resting position.

Oh, lol. do you have a Chinese keyboard? Because regional keyboards differing from the US sometimes have some issues. Maybe you or someone else could make a Chinese version of the layout?


Haha nao. Just an EU layout keyboard. Where is build basic structure for you? Is it the key the to left of enter? That key for me at the moment is gather resources. Where is gather resources for you? Thanks for replies.

Build is left of enter, gather resources is the key at the farthest top left of the keyboard, or `.

@Jak Which camera keys are meant for what on ZRM? I still can't figure it out, even while looking at the data doc.
Tarqon
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands27 Posts
June 24 2012 16:57 GMT
#478
I've been practicing the Zerg no mouse layout for the last two days and it feels really promising, especially the layered camera keys. Two points of feedback though:

1) 7 is a terrible bind in my opinion, I have to fully stretch my ringfinger to reach it and is pretty much the hardest key in the layout to press for me, would prefer to have the functions on 7 moved elsewhere.

2) , is kind of a weird camera hotkey. I moved it to ALT+[ and CTRL+SHIFT+[ instead. That way it's a natural extension of the base cameras.

Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing how the layout develops further!
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 24 2012 17:06 GMT
#479
@barrykp
that is not the '(apostrophe) key but the `(grave) key. You need it not!
Also, "," is not a control group, it is used for abilities. To alleviate awkwardness make sure you are tilting you keyboard and pressing "," with your ring finger and "." with your middle finger. Hope that helps!

@ArcticRaven
I would suggest using this picture of the keyboard I used to make the layout

http://www.gameseek.co.uk/images/products/razer_marauder.jpg

Along with the Data Document

to make the azerty layouts :D thanks
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
barrykp
Profile Joined August 2010
Ireland174 Posts
June 24 2012 18:05 GMT
#480
On June 25 2012 02:06 JaKaTaK wrote:
@barrykp
that is not the '(apostrophe) key but the `(grave) key. You need it not!
Also, "," is not a control group, it is used for abilities. To alleviate awkwardness make sure you are tilting you keyboard and pressing "," with your ring finger and "." with your middle finger. Hope that helps!

I have double checked and gather resource is definitely set to the apostrophe/single quotation key, which is right next to the enter key on my keyboard (I use a 6gv2). I confirmed it in the hotkey menu and by pressing the key in game (with a drone selected). Since this key is right in the middle of all the keys used by the core surely it could be put to something more useful?
Lecture me some more on how to play please; I need help.
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