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On June 25 2012 19:08 Phatency wrote:Here are some nordic layouts that were converted with the tool described in this post: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14548792/TheCore RRM 02_nordic.SC2Hotkeyshttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/14548792/TheCore RRMM 02_nordic.SC2HotkeysI may post more if they are requested. Please tell me if there's something wrong with these. I programmed a quick tool to convert The Core layouts for nordic keyboards.Probably has a bug or two. Requires .NET framework 3.0 or higher. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14548792/CoreNordicRemapper_v4.exeIf you use this, your keyboard should look something like this: http://gamma.nic.fi/~point/images/rufin-fi.gifSo Swedish and Finnish keyboards should be fine, don't know if the Norwegian one will work. It has the same basic layout, just different characters. Simply open the file you want to convert and then select where to save it. It does exactly these operations: Equals->BracketOpen BracketOpen->BracketClose BracketClose->SemiColon Slash->Minus SemiColon->Grave Minus->Equals Grave->unbound Alt->Alt+Control (== AltGr) I have no idea what the changes would be if you use left-handed layouts. I've put zero thought on them since I'm an ignorant righty. Changelog: v4: - Fixed a bug where some of the former Grave key binds weren't actually removed. v3: - Added automatic file naming - Fixed a bug where extra Control keys were added to key binds v2: - Fixed a bug which lead to inconsistent control group binds
Hi Phatency  and thanks Jakatak and all developpers for this fantastic idea/tool 
Do you think it would be possible to use different output language format with your soft with some little modification ?
What i mean is : why not make a soft to remap all files (TLM/TRM/etc ...) where we could choose the kind of output type to fit specific keyboard ?
I think it would be easier for everyone and make developper spend less time on converting those files in different keyboard's format.
btw, if you want to do this, here is the matching between US QWERTY and French AZERTY for those "specials" keys :
M ===========> Comma
SemiColon =====> M
Comma =======> Period
Period ========> Slash
Slash =========> OEM8
Apostrophe =====> Grave
BackSlash =====> BackSlash (no change, just here to show i didn't forgot it :p)
BracketOpen ====> BracketClose
BracketClose ====> SemiColon
Minus ==========> BracketOpen
Equals =========> Equals (same thing as BackSlash)
Grave ===========> Apostrophe
Q ==============> A
W ==============> Z
A ==============> Q
Z ==============> W
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Thanks a lot to anyone willing to do it ! Also you must not forget that in qwerty figures are automatically what you get when you press one of the keys between letters and F keys, while you have to press shift before in azerty. Also i didn't see l'accent aigu (no idea how translate lol).
Edit : to clarify,
QWERTY => AZERTY
1 => &
2 => é
3 => "
Etc...
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Thanks Jak for the art work! You the man for all your hard work day in and day out
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Thanks DubC You rock!
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On June 26 2012 05:49 WFGolgoth wrote:Hi Phatency and thanks Jakatak and all developpers for this fantastic idea/tool Do you think it would be possible to use different output language format with your soft with some little modification ? What i mean is : why not make a soft to remap all files (TLM/TRM/etc ...) where we could choose the kind of output type to fit specific keyboard ? I think it would be easier for everyone and make developper spend less time on converting those files in different keyboard's format. --snip--
I'm definitely considering of adding support for other (or user specified) layouts and batch file conversion. Thanks for the AZERTY mappings!
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@ArticRaven : even if the key you type on your keyboard is é " ' ( ... it's recorded in the config file of the keyboard in SC2 as 1 2 3 4 ...
I'm french too, using an AZERTY keyboard and it works. In fact i've made the test with a test keyboard file to see exactly what key is what :p
So normaly, all key i've posted for AZERTY keyboard are the only keys that change from the QWERTY version, so it will normally work for all TheCore config files.
@Phatency : Thx a lot dude !
I think it will be cool to add a link to your tool in the OP the time it's released to test it out as well, if JaKaTaK & other devs are ok with that
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Oh. That explains why the key doesn't change when you press shift D:
Well done :D
Edit : my own game does show these keys as &, é, ", ', etc....
It might have to do with my English client. I'll look into what the French client does.
Edit² : The French client records &, é, ", ', etc.... too.
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On June 26 2012 16:54 ArcticRaven wrote:
Oh. That explains why the key doesn't change when you press shift D:
Well done :D
Edit : my own game does show these keys as &, é, ", ', etc....
It might have to do with my English client. I'll look into what the French client does.
Edit² : The French client records &, é, ", ', etc.... too.
It doesn't matter what the client says, the real info is in the SC2Hotkeys file. For example, if I bind ä, it will say "ä" in the hotkey editor, but it's listed as "Apostrophe" in the SC2Hotkeys file. Apostrophe is also at the same place on US keyboard as ä is on my keyboard, so no remapping is necessary.
In other news, I'm currently working on the remapper to add support for other keyboard layouts.
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Oh. That explains some of my confusion at seeing keys like ² or à that don't appear in qwerty in the hotkey setup I opened ^^ .
Edit : What must I do ? I can't open the hotkey file itself. You linked the development data to me, Jakatak, but I have no idea at all how to read it or what to do with it. Trying to remap manually with the client is proving disastrous, since without one of the layout pics, I can't know what the layout is in qwerty.
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Just use your favourite text editor (Notepad for example) to open the file. From what I can see now it is sort of smart about it and only saves the differences with the standard hotkeys. I don't know if that matters here, but if for example Metabolic Boost is still on "M" and doesn't show up: that's why.
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SC2 Hotkey Remapper updated (and renamed), it now supports any keyboard layout, provided you write a remapping file for that layout.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14548792/SC2HotkeyRemapper0.8.zip
It currently has support for Finnish/Swedish keyboards and French AZERTY (provided by WFGolgoth)
This program converts .SC2Hotkey files to use with other keyboard layouts. Common usage is as follows:
1. Select your keyboard layout from the list
2. Press "Convert File" (other options coming soon)
3. Select the file you want to convert
4. Select where to save the converted file.
You should never convert a file that is already converted. (unless you really want to.)
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Remapping rules can be written in simple text files which are located in the "Layouts" subdirectory. All files in that directory are processed.
File format:
OldKey=UNBIND
^ will unbind every instance of OldKey. Sometimes useful, for example when your Grave character is in a more central location.
OldKey=NewKey
^ will change every instance of OldKey with NewKey
AltGr=YES
^ will replace every instance of Alt with Control+Alt. This means that you can use AltGr instead of the Alt key, since AltGr is the same as Control+Alt. Do note that on some keyboards or systems results may vary. If you find that your AltGr worked before and not anymore, disable this. Defaults to "no".
If you make a new keyboard layout file, please send it to me in some of the ways described below. I will add your name to this file and your layout to the next version. You can also submit corrections for existing layouts.
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Coming soon:
- More keyboard layouts (hopefully if someone submits them)
- Instructions on how to figure out which keys are which
Edit: 0.6: added a batch file conversion feature. If someone wants to go through the trouble of converting a bunch of the core layouts and uploading them somewhere, it would be greatly appreciated. 0.7: bugfix
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:D That is pretty neat. I've been quite useless, but as long as the azerty setup is there, I'm happy 
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Is there any good maps that help you to learn new hotkeys?
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If you guys can upload the French version it would be amazing! I can't wait to test it!
Thanks in advance!
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Does anyone know if there is a program that remaps keys for specific programs (like X-Mouse Button Control but for the keyboard)? My problem is that when I have made a camera for my third (ALT+O) it also turns the Nexus into the control group on O since I have Alt Gr (Ctrl + Alt) instead of just Alt.
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Here are all of the auto-converted hotkey layouts for Finnish/Swedish keyboards and for the French AZERTY:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14548792/TheCore02FinSwe.zip
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14548792/TheCore02FrenchAZERTY.zip
Sorry about the zips, making 34 links would be a huge pain. My previous post has the converter I used for these.
I don't actually own a french keyboard, so I have no way of testing these. Do tell me about possible corrections.
@ Sickan: You should try rebinding all Alt camera binds to Alt+Control camera binds. I have no problems with my AltGr when I do that. (the layouts I posted already do this by the way)
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@Phatency : great job man ! you were really fast at updating your program, thanks a lot
@other user : if you've got other type of keyboard (as German for example), lets give us the remapping for your keys so that Phatency can complete his program
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here for the german layout
Minus=BracketOpen
Equals=BracketClose
BracketOpen=SemiColon
BracketClose=Equals
SemiColon=Grave
Slash=Minus
BackSlash=Slash
Grave=BackSlash
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On June 27 2012 01:43 maLaK1 wrote:here for the german layout Show nested quote +Minus=BracketOpen
Equals=BracketClose
BracketOpen=SemiColon
BracketClose=Equals
SemiColon=Grave
Slash=Minus
BackSlash=Slash
Grave=BackSlash
Great, exactly what I need. Does it require remapping camera keys to Control+Alt+Key? (because of AltGr=Control+Alt).
Now that I think about it, the french Azerty also has an AltGr. Could someone try that one out and test if the camera keys work with the layouts I posted? If no-one replies, I'll just silently update them all.
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