EPThow about swapping I(transfuse) and U(spread creep) for zergs,so you can use this method in the video
infested terran is on I also, so you could set the hotkey to I and spam using this trick
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peter22
Belarus25 Posts
how about swapping I(transfuse) and U(spread creep) for zergs,so you can use this method in the video infested terran is on I also, so you could set the hotkey to I and spam using this trick | ||
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Ninjury_J
Canada408 Posts
Thanks for the suggestion. 1) we considered adding this function in, the prolem is that it is so fast that it could get banned. 2) if creep is changed for transfuse, then it ruins the entire creep spread method. An idea to build off yours is to assign the (select AI target hit key) to U, and infested Terran to U as an alternate. I don't mean to be rude, but I feel I should point something out. You once rightfully got upset with me for not citing your name when posting your idea. I was wrong not to. So I'm hoping you will recognize that (to my knowledge) the video you posted does not belong to you, and ought to be cited as well. In fact, it belongs to (edit): Kalhdor. Edit: and the original idea belongs to nick, as far as I know. | ||
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On May 12 2013 01:18 Ninjury_J wrote: I don't mean to be rude, but I feel I should point something out. You once rightfully got upset with me for not citing your name when posting your idea. I was wrong not to. So I'm hoping you will recognize that (to my knowledge) the video you posted does not belong to you, and ought to be cited as well. In fact, it belongs to a thread about this very trick. The ironic thing is that Nick came up with this originally.  | ||
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Ninjury_J
Canada408 Posts
Edit: mmm yes he did. I was talking about the video though. It's also possible that Kahldor knew this without checking out Fleet keys or TheCore. | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
There's even another thread about this right now which is a little aggravating, to be honest. I'm happy that the idea is spreading, and I'd be even happier if Blizz would allow this, but I'm dissatisfied that Nick isn't the one who gets the credit. His hotkey layout only has 8 pages. | ||
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eneyeseekay
239 Posts
The only thing I'm not seeing is that it's better to bind it to a convenient location so it can be used with any spell/ability/command (like X or S in Grid) rather than placing the binding on each spell. This leads me to believe that people haven't implemented the feature with much thought or testing yet, making the timing of all this even more stranger. Either way, like Ninjury said, I want it out there and deemed ok/dealt with. There's no point of hiding it; Khaldor telling the rest of the community will help confirm what we are all unsure about (whether this is a threatening, patch-worthy feature or a totally legal one). I suppose we wait for the Scarlet vods to roll in that feature her gosu creepspread that may/may not get banned. A complimentary Day[9] Daily showcasing it or even its mentioning on SotG would seal the deal in terms of exposure. Maybe that's what it needs for Blizzard to take notice? Edit: I just read this post from Khaldor: On May 11 2013 22:51 Khaldor wrote: Wanted to let you guys know that I also uploaded a video on this. Scarlett already told me some time ago about the trick, included two of the posters in here in the shoutouts as I've seen the thread before I recorded it. Really interesting read up, nice to see how indepth you guys researched this trick! Does that mean Scarlett actually started using this after seeing the posts on here? If so, that would be pretty damn cool. Snute gave it a thumbs up as well... Let the banning begin! (or not!) | ||
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
I just want a confirmation sooner rather than later. Although knowing how Blizz reacted to getting workers trapped inside gas so quickly, I'd say we're going to get it sooner anyways. | ||
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eneyeseekay
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sanddbox_sc2
United States173 Posts
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Borskey
160 Posts
On May 12 2013 01:08 peter22 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V72ax34cxBY how about swapping I(transfuse) and U(spread creep) for zergs,so you can use this method in the video infested terran is on I also, so you could set the hotkey to I and spam using this trick Some of us have been doing this for a while. I just put the leftclick on U and bound ITs to U as well, so it won't interfere with the camera creep spread method. | ||
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thayneq
96 Posts
Just make "U" your spam ability key for any unit you want to have that feature. For example my setup: infested terrains are bound to "I" and alt bound to "U" then you can get the best of both worlds. I find times when I DON'T want to use the spam method on purpose, such as single shot infested terrains into a siege tank line for friendly splash damage. This is why having U as the alt bound is critical. | ||
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thayneq
96 Posts
On May 12 2013 05:17 sanddbox_sc2 wrote: So for me, both spread creep tumor and infested terran are on O. (I for JIOP users) Does anybody know if there'd be any conflicts to worry about if I just set O to the mouse click? creep tumors are not on "I" for ZRM, they are on "U" so you can use the camera creep method. As I said before, I just make "U" the spam ability, then give "U" as an alt binding to any unit that I want to spam. For me, that's creep tumors, infested terrans, and corruption. Everything else (zerg and terran) doesn't really benefit imo. | ||
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Ninjury_J
Canada408 Posts
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Khaldor
Germany861 Posts
On May 12 2013 03:07 eneyeseekay wrote: Edit: I just read this post from Khaldor: Does that mean Scarlett actually started using this after seeing the posts on here? If so, that would be pretty damn cool. Snute gave it a thumbs up as well... Let the banning begin! (or not!) This thread here had nothing to do with it (sorry to disappoint). Scarlett was told about it by korean players quite some time ago, had nothing to do with any thread on TL or anywhere else. | ||
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TCPLolwut
New Zealand8 Posts
Picture link (not my actual keyboard but one with the problem) http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://helpwithvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ZoomText-Keyboard-White-on-Black.jpg&imgrefurl=http://helpwithvision.com/large-print-keyboard-for-zoomtext-by-aisquared/&h=330&w=750&sz=358&tbnid=SRqxqbn5lsvWgM:&tbnh=54&tbnw=123&prev=/search?q=keyboard&tbm=isch&tbo=u&zoom=1&q=keyboard&usg=__fzQjzWCAyXiykosZvxSIKm_R2WE=&docid=kHIBLr3woTiMlM&sa=X&ei=52OPUf7KE--hiAfQ54GwBA&ved=0CE4Q9QEwBQ&dur=1613. I don't know how to upload pictures sorry so I will just post the link. | ||
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sil0r
Germany43 Posts
a) I tried it with keeping the build depot button pressed, but my SCVs end up in an attackmove after building one depot. b) With shift they don't build them instantly, cause they finish the last task first. c) Move-command, then shiftqueue-building, the SCVs end up doing weird movements sometimes, driving through the base (when the path is blocked by newly build depot, i guess) How do you do it guys? | ||
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Fang Xianfu
United Kingdom6 Posts
On May 12 2013 18:25 TCPLolwut wrote: Could someone please help me with this, my keyboard is set up like the one in the video with one small difference. The shift key on the bottom right hand side of the keboard has a very small key which types \ and | to the left of it which makes it a lot harder to cntrl shift. Is there any way to somehow change the setup so it combines the small key beside the shift key with the shift key to make some sort of big shift key? Thanks, Lolwut Picture link (not my actual keyboard but one with the problem) http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://helpwithvision.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ZoomText-Keyboard-White-on-Black.jpg&imgrefurl=http://helpwithvision.com/large-print-keyboard-for-zoomtext-by-aisquared/&h=330&w=750&sz=358&tbnid=SRqxqbn5lsvWgM:&tbnh=54&tbnw=123&prev=/search?q=keyboard&tbm=isch&tbo=u&zoom=1&q=keyboard&usg=__fzQjzWCAyXiykosZvxSIKm_R2WE=&docid=kHIBLr3woTiMlM&sa=X&ei=52OPUf7KE--hiAfQ54GwBA&ved=0CE4Q9QEwBQ&dur=1613. I don't know how to upload pictures sorry so I will just post the link. There isn't a way to do this from within Starcraft. You could perhaps use a third-party utility to rebind that extra key to shift. The real solution to this problem is to get a proper keyboard that's ANSI/ISO compliant rather than a (presumably) horrible Chinese knockoff  | ||
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
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teuthida
United States104 Posts
On May 12 2013 20:36 sil0r wrote: Guys, one question. As a Terran if you have to build multiple supplydepots, what's the best way to do it? a) I tried it with keeping the build depot button pressed, but my SCVs end up in an attackmove after building one depot. b) With shift they don't build them instantly, cause they finish the last task first. c) Move-command, then shiftqueue-building, the SCVs end up doing weird movements sometimes, driving through the base (when the path is blocked by newly build depot, i guess) How do you do it guys? I do either B) or C) depending on the situation. I usually pull form the mineral line, but it is really common to just dedicate 1 or 2 SCVs to building depots to avoid the problems you are seeing with those methods (that is, they are idle when not building depots and are hanging out next to where you are going to build the next set). | ||
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