it's like if no one attacks me, and i make 6 orbitals in 5 minutes and go on to win the game. is that "macro" impressive? it's holding off the void ray all in, or holding off the roach bust that is impressive.
[D] Korean Cheese vs American Macro - Page 4
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
it's like if no one attacks me, and i make 6 orbitals in 5 minutes and go on to win the game. is that "macro" impressive? it's holding off the void ray all in, or holding off the roach bust that is impressive. | ||
mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
On April 13 2012 11:35 Fishgle wrote: This phrase needs to be added to the Starcraft Dictionary. And I've never even played the game! lol | ||
polpot
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
The basic point behind macro is all due to the defenders advantage. If you build things taking into account travel time you can always get a better economy so you will win the fight due to equal numbers and faster reinforcements. HOWEVER the entire point of macro is to get a decent army at a time when your opponent is weak. So all these Korean timing attacks when described as all in are technically perfect examples of applied proper macro play. Also if you are z and are macroing but can die to early 3 rax all in then you really don't have a build your just messing around praying that the opponent doesnt do all kinds of viable builds. Its like the protoss v zerg how do you deal with 200 food at 12 mins ... the answer is probably dont let the zerg do what he likes and attack when he likes -because then you are giving a perfect timing window. Don't get me wrong, i can't solve it but I think z deserves to win if you let them do what they like (as with any side). Why are people so obsessed about whether something is cheese or not? If your build doesn't defend vertain builds then ithas flaws. Saying well it doesn't defend against these cheeses doesn't somehow make it better or mean you don;t need to defend against them. It just means that by exposing yourself to them you are forcing the tendencies of players TOWARDS doing those cheeses. If a player could 'cheese' and win and chooses to take a less optimal path then they have made a mistake and have played the game in a less strong way than they should of. Cheese is just an excuse for people to stay shit and dismiss a whole host of valid strategies as being below them when those timings are the fundementals of the game. | ||
McGuire72
Canada140 Posts
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Sc2eleazar
United States70 Posts
However at the same times it's his mechanics that allow him to micro. Although he seems lacking in the "macro game" he macros well enough for an aggressive build. Might this debate actually come down to finding a style you excel at then bringing up ALL you mechanics to a level that allows maximum execution of that style. | ||
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