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Notes/Build Stephano's ZVP and ZVT Style of Play - Page 3

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LolitsPing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States285 Posts
March 26 2012 07:57 GMT
#41
What about Tal Darim Altar or any map that has rocks blocking the 3rd? How does Stephano adjust to that in ZvP when the Protoss FFE??
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robaq
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland186 Posts
March 26 2012 09:13 GMT
#42
Very solid write-up, I found myself reading this in WhiteRa voice because of the simplicity and clearness of it ^^.
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MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
March 26 2012 09:33 GMT
#43
Love this thread, I've been basing pretty much everything I do except ZvZ on Stephano's play, if only I had this before I would've saved a lot of time!

Other than that I'll just say that Stephano has really solid, fun builds that pretty much eliminated the "coin flippiness" for me. I recommend it for any Zerg. I don't even get mad when I lose anymore because I can clearly see where I screwed up.
JayChey
Profile Joined June 2011
United States92 Posts
April 10 2012 06:15 GMT
#44
I'm a bit confused about gas timings for the ~7 minute fast third ZvT. So, you take your 1st gas at a normal timing (~17), and leave on gas to make 4 roaches after your 5 minute warren? And then you stay on gas until ~40 drones where you add on three more extractors and then get 1/1 then Lair?
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
April 12 2012 22:49 GMT
#45
My only gripe with this write-up is you don't interpret anything as a mistake
Its ok if your natural dies, just keep on building drones and transfer when you rebuild it, pressure with the defenses that you made
Losing your natural is not okay, it is a mistake and I'm fairly certain Stephano would tell you himself that you are pretty far behind if that happens. He just made the best of it in whatever replay you watched.
My point here is when you are trying to learn from replays is that you shouldn't assume that everything that happened in the game was intentional. Sometimes it can be difficult to separate what part of the build was planned and which part was a deviation based on a mistake or an odd opening on behalf of the opponent.(Unless the player specifically said to you that the replay showcases his/her build in its most optimal form) In this case I think it's safe to say it is never okay to lose you're natural expansion.
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BerkmanZ
Profile Joined August 2011
United States56 Posts
December 27 2012 21:55 GMT
#46
On March 10 2012 11:15 Biggun69 wrote:
His ZvP opening is 15 pool, 16 hatch, 15ol not 15 pool 15 hatch.

It says in the article that he DOES do a 15pool 16 hatch 24 hatch build. doesn't say he does 15hatch.

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