• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:06
CET 02:06
KST 10:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets0$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)12Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18
Tourneys
$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Data analysis on 70 million replays
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Skilled Psychic Chat Readings For Insight US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1174 users

[G] New Mutalisk Stacking Technique - Page 4

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
juicy
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia145 Posts
March 05 2012 12:56 GMT
#61
Awesome find, I saw Nestea do this today also. Funny it took us so long
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
March 05 2012 16:36 GMT
#62
Hotkey overlord to some random control group (it's sc2 you probably have 5 or so free anyways), remove and add the overlord depending on whether you are engaging thors or not. Takes even more apm and probably impossible to do in lower leagues, but should to the trick.

Really funny it took us that long to discover something we already knew.
kcdc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2311 Posts
March 05 2012 17:59 GMT
#63
Stacking is very important for phoenix vs muta micro. Any good ideas for Protoss units to throw in the control group?
Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 18:15:39
March 05 2012 18:13 GMT
#64
I am amazed that noone tried this earlier... While aoe can be devastating, just boxing your stacked mutas and pressing S, would start the spread almost instantly, no need to add and remove overlords or burrowed lings constantly. I don't see any reason not to try it.

On March 06 2012 02:59 kcdc wrote:
Stacking is very important for phoenix vs muta micro. Any good ideas for Protoss units to throw in the control group?


I guess having a probe build a couple of pylons at the corner of the base in a way that traps itself would do the trick.

Edit: Correcting mistakes. what the hell is wrong with my head today -.-
"The art of war is of vital importance to the state" || MVP.Keen fan since the day he stole my heart with a double 2rax. http://i.imgur.com/A82cl.gif
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
March 05 2012 18:24 GMT
#65
On March 06 2012 02:59 kcdc wrote:
Stacking is very important for phoenix vs muta micro. Any good ideas for Protoss units to throw in the control group?


Could you block your wall with a zealot and use a probe that's inside your base?
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
HelloSon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
March 05 2012 18:59 GMT
#66
On March 05 2012 21:56 juicy wrote:
Awesome find, I saw Nestea do this today also. Funny it took us so long

I noticed Nestea do this too but it seemed random, like sometimes his muta control group had an ov and sometimes it didn't. Hard to tell if it was a mistake or not.
yo
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 05 2012 19:14 GMT
#67
I don't see a huge difference. I think it's mostly a placebo. :s
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
agahamsorr0w
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands359 Posts
March 05 2012 19:46 GMT
#68
you can clearly see a difference. Try playing more with the mutas. You'll notice how fast they spread out in big groups.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 20:00:48
March 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#69
On March 05 2012 12:29 memcpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 11:57 BMM wrote:
not trying to hate but wasn't this what everyone was doing in BW?? at any rate nice find, i'll be able to storm muta's better now :D:D


Ya, this is similar to what people did in BW, which is what led me to try it in the first place. It's just that most people, including pros, don't realize that it makes a difference in SC2. As someone mentioned earlier, I think the only pro who does this frequently is Nestea.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 11:57 chuky500 wrote:
They seemed to unstack when you went right while they remained stacked when you went left. Is that how the trick works or did they just unstack because you moved to the opposite side ?


You can move around in any direction. I think I just messed up and clicked too far away or not quickly enough when I switched directions.

Because you flew back over the overlord, they unstacked. It is not the grouping with the overlord that makes it work, but rather the fact that the overlord is far away from the mutas that keeps them stacked. If you look after the mutas are heading left after leaving the overlord, they almost completely stop destacking. They only had some destacking when they were near the overlord. That's how it worked in BW at least.
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Tal0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States175 Posts
March 05 2012 20:09 GMT
#70
i saw nestea do this last night on imtv and thought it was a mistake
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 05 2012 20:15 GMT
#71
On March 06 2012 05:00 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 12:29 memcpy wrote:
On March 05 2012 11:57 BMM wrote:
not trying to hate but wasn't this what everyone was doing in BW?? at any rate nice find, i'll be able to storm muta's better now :D:D


Ya, this is similar to what people did in BW, which is what led me to try it in the first place. It's just that most people, including pros, don't realize that it makes a difference in SC2. As someone mentioned earlier, I think the only pro who does this frequently is Nestea.

On March 05 2012 11:57 chuky500 wrote:
They seemed to unstack when you went right while they remained stacked when you went left. Is that how the trick works or did they just unstack because you moved to the opposite side ?


You can move around in any direction. I think I just messed up and clicked too far away or not quickly enough when I switched directions.

Because you flew back over the overlord, they unstacked. It is not the grouping with the overlord that makes it work, but rather the fact that the overlord is far away from the mutas that keeps them stacked. If you look after the mutas are heading left after leaving the overlord, they almost completely stop destacking. They only had some destacking when they were near the overlord. That's how it worked in BW at least.


Yeah this is definitely why they unstacked when he turned around, I also just tested it to try and find out.

This is actually really really useful, and I look forward to implementing it, nice job.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 05 2012 20:17 GMT
#72
Blizzard finds out and nerfs it in the next patch (troll face)
"let your freak flag fly"
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 20:20:53
March 05 2012 20:19 GMT
#73
I tried this yesterday while off-racing, and can confirm that this works.

1. Group an overlord (or any other unit that moves) with your mutas.
You actually don't need a unit that moves. As someone suggested, I tried grouping my mutalisks with a spire, and it worked fine. I can also tab between the mutas and the spire to make upgrades.


On March 06 2012 05:17 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Blizzard finds out and nerfs it in the next patch (troll face)

They only do that with Terran and Spellcasters. :S
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
kusu
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden440 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 20:23:03
March 05 2012 20:22 GMT
#74
It is because the "box" becomes larger when the ovie is in the ctrl group right? So every click is in the box which makes them clump... Before when you click outside the box they spread!
Expa bör man annars dör man! A game withouth me, is a game not worth winning!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#75
Hum, tested it a bit in a unit tester map.
Yeah it seems to have a small difference. The map don't spread out in a line when moving that much with the trick.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 20:43:24
March 05 2012 20:41 GMT
#76
i tried this long ago and didnt have same effect like in bw...they ninja patched it or something?
i just been grouping it by spamming right click as it moves
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 20:50:00
March 05 2012 20:46 GMT
#77
I believe this trick has been around since the beta. Blizzard tried to emulate muta stacking from bw. There were complaints they didnt quite get it right.
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 05 2012 20:54 GMT
#78
I don't think it has the same effect when grouped with a building, I just played with it and when have the same group of mutas on control groups 1 and 2, and overlord in one and an evo chamber in 2, flying with control group one they operate like in the video, then switching to control group 2 while keeping up the move commands they spread out quickly.
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
March 05 2012 21:13 GMT
#79
I just click the little circles underneath constantly while microing and attacking, works just fine
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 05 2012 21:28 GMT
#80
On March 06 2012 02:59 kcdc wrote:
Stacking is very important for phoenix vs muta micro. Any good ideas for Protoss units to throw in the control group?


Hmm I'm thinking make an enclosed space with buildings, and warp in a zealot, or enclose a probe with buildings, and use that.
I'm going to test it right now...

Yeah it works really well actually.

Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft490
SpeCial 135
White-Ra 123
UpATreeSC 85
SteadfastSC 65
CosmosSc2 52
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 10237
Shuttle 1068
Artosis 795
Sexy 55
NaDa 22
GoRush 17
Dota 2
capcasts128
canceldota22
League of Legends
C9.Mang0228
Counter-Strike
summit1g6750
Coldzera 1432
Foxcn186
Super Smash Bros
PPMD67
Other Games
tarik_tv6539
B2W.Neo208
Maynarde138
XaKoH 137
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2658
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki28
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21337
• WagamamaTV433
Other Games
• imaqtpie2150
• Shiphtur204
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
10h 54m
PiGosaur Cup
23h 54m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 10h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
All Star Teams
4 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
All Star Teams
5 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-12
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.