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[G] New Mutalisk Stacking Technique - Page 3

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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
March 05 2012 08:07 GMT
#41
this isn't really a guide. Just a neat trick.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
mothergoose729
Profile Joined December 2010
United States666 Posts
March 05 2012 08:11 GMT
#42
You can achieve the same effect, by right clicking on another muta.OL move so slowly this trick is impractical. I think most pros have been using various techniques for muta stacking for a while already.
NagAfightinG
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom270 Posts
March 05 2012 08:19 GMT
#43
On March 05 2012 17:11 mothergoose729 wrote:
You can achieve the same effect, by right clicking on another muta.OL move so slowly this trick is impractical. I think most pros have been using various techniques for muta stacking for a while already.

The overlords movment speed have nothing to do with anything lol.
We live like animals thinking of the afterlive
mothergoose729
Profile Joined December 2010
United States666 Posts
March 05 2012 08:37 GMT
#44
On March 05 2012 17:19 NagAfightinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 17:11 mothergoose729 wrote:
You can achieve the same effect, by right clicking on another muta.OL move so slowly this trick is impractical. I think most pros have been using various techniques for muta stacking for a while already.

The overlords movment speed have nothing to do with anything lol.


What do you mean it has nothing to do with anything? Unless you have an OL in position, then it is difficult to use this trick for any practical aggression. In ZvT and ZvP, you don't get to camp one place very often and reign glaves, most of it is hit and run. Snipe an scv and move on, you don't get to work on a group of depots for 20 seconds. ZvP is the same but even more so. Also, its not necessary. If you spam move command in the same spot, your mutas will stack the exact same way. I don't mean to be a jerk, but I just don't see the application for this trick in most real in game situations.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
March 05 2012 08:41 GMT
#45
On March 05 2012 17:37 mothergoose729 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 17:19 NagAfightinG wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:11 mothergoose729 wrote:
You can achieve the same effect, by right clicking on another muta.OL move so slowly this trick is impractical. I think most pros have been using various techniques for muta stacking for a while already.

The overlords movment speed have nothing to do with anything lol.


What do you mean it has nothing to do with anything? Unless you have an OL in position, then it is difficult to use this trick for any practical aggression. In ZvT and ZvP, you don't get to camp one place very often and reign glaves, most of it is hit and run. Snipe an scv and move on, you don't get to work on a group of depots for 20 seconds. ZvP is the same but even more so. Also, its not necessary. If you spam move command in the same spot, your mutas will stack the exact same way. I don't mean to be a jerk, but I just don't see the application for this trick in most real in game situations.


the overlord doesnt need to be in position though.. it can be anywhere lol
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
mothergoose729
Profile Joined December 2010
United States666 Posts
March 05 2012 08:52 GMT
#46
On March 05 2012 17:41 LovE- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 17:37 mothergoose729 wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:19 NagAfightinG wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:11 mothergoose729 wrote:
You can achieve the same effect, by right clicking on another muta.OL move so slowly this trick is impractical. I think most pros have been using various techniques for muta stacking for a while already.

The overlords movment speed have nothing to do with anything lol.


What do you mean it has nothing to do with anything? Unless you have an OL in position, then it is difficult to use this trick for any practical aggression. In ZvT and ZvP, you don't get to camp one place very often and reign glaves, most of it is hit and run. Snipe an scv and move on, you don't get to work on a group of depots for 20 seconds. ZvP is the same but even more so. Also, its not necessary. If you spam move command in the same spot, your mutas will stack the exact same way. I don't mean to be a jerk, but I just don't see the application for this trick in most real in game situations.


the overlord doesnt need to be in position though.. it can be anywhere lol


Do I not undertstand this trick then? You have to keep your mutas on move command or they will natural disperse correct? So if you plan to stack them, you have to get them to stack, then move to the position you want them. If there is no OL nearby, and you want to stack your mutas, then you are going to right click spam on another muta and move in the same way. If I am missing something please let me know.
Scereye
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria154 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 08:58:55
March 05 2012 08:57 GMT
#47
On March 05 2012 17:52 mothergoose729 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 17:41 LovE- wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:37 mothergoose729 wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:19 NagAfightinG wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:11 mothergoose729 wrote:
You can achieve the same effect, by right clicking on another muta.OL move so slowly this trick is impractical. I think most pros have been using various techniques for muta stacking for a while already.

The overlords movment speed have nothing to do with anything lol.


What do you mean it has nothing to do with anything? Unless you have an OL in position, then it is difficult to use this trick for any practical aggression. In ZvT and ZvP, you don't get to camp one place very often and reign glaves, most of it is hit and run. Snipe an scv and move on, you don't get to work on a group of depots for 20 seconds. ZvP is the same but even more so. Also, its not necessary. If you spam move command in the same spot, your mutas will stack the exact same way. I don't mean to be a jerk, but I just don't see the application for this trick in most real in game situations.


the overlord doesnt need to be in position though.. it can be anywhere lol


Do I not undertstand this trick then? You have to keep your mutas on move command or they will natural disperse correct? So if you plan to stack them, you have to get them to stack, then move to the position you want them. If there is no OL nearby, and you want to stack your mutas, then you are going to right click spam on another muta and move in the same way. If I am missing something please let me know.


U just have to group an OL with your mutas. And because you have another unit farer away from your mutas the group "behaves" in another way than they would with only the mutas selected, no extra clicks required.

However, i suck at SC:BW and SC2, thats just what i read over the years..., so im maybe wrong about the mechanics, but the statement itself should be true.
mothergoose729
Profile Joined December 2010
United States666 Posts
March 05 2012 09:00 GMT
#48
On March 05 2012 17:57 Scereye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 17:52 mothergoose729 wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:41 LovE- wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:37 mothergoose729 wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:19 NagAfightinG wrote:
On March 05 2012 17:11 mothergoose729 wrote:
You can achieve the same effect, by right clicking on another muta.OL move so slowly this trick is impractical. I think most pros have been using various techniques for muta stacking for a while already.

The overlords movment speed have nothing to do with anything lol.


What do you mean it has nothing to do with anything? Unless you have an OL in position, then it is difficult to use this trick for any practical aggression. In ZvT and ZvP, you don't get to camp one place very often and reign glaves, most of it is hit and run. Snipe an scv and move on, you don't get to work on a group of depots for 20 seconds. ZvP is the same but even more so. Also, its not necessary. If you spam move command in the same spot, your mutas will stack the exact same way. I don't mean to be a jerk, but I just don't see the application for this trick in most real in game situations.


the overlord doesnt need to be in position though.. it can be anywhere lol


Do I not undertstand this trick then? You have to keep your mutas on move command or they will natural disperse correct? So if you plan to stack them, you have to get them to stack, then move to the position you want them. If there is no OL nearby, and you want to stack your mutas, then you are going to right click spam on another muta and move in the same way. If I am missing something please let me know.


U just have to group an OL with your mutas. And because you have another unit farer away from your mutas the group "behaves" in another way than they would with only the mutas selected, no extra clicks required.

However, i suck at SC:BW and SC2, thats just what i read over the years..., so im maybe wrong about the mechanics, but the statement itself should be true.


So the OL just need to be in the control group in order to work?
Scereye
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria154 Posts
March 05 2012 09:01 GMT
#49
Yup.
mothergoose729
Profile Joined December 2010
United States666 Posts
March 05 2012 09:04 GMT
#50
On March 05 2012 18:01 Scereye wrote:
Yup.


Ok, thanks. Sorry about my comments then. I didn't understand how the trick worked. Going to have to mess around with this later.
marine63
Profile Joined July 2010
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 09:13:44
March 05 2012 09:13 GMT
#51
sry mate, but this isn't new.
People done this in beta.
Terran: NA Masters
Scereye
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria154 Posts
March 05 2012 09:17 GMT
#52
On March 05 2012 18:13 marine63 wrote:
sry mate, but this isn't new.
People done this in beta.


People done this in BW, People tried this in beta, didnt work to the same extend, people dropped the idea.

So well, its kinda new i guess :/
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
March 05 2012 09:21 GMT
#53
WOW this is why Nestea had an overloard on there
IMNestea's biggest fan.
pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
March 05 2012 09:37 GMT
#54
The greatest part about muta stacking in BW is that you can achieve a ton of damage with just as little as 6 mutas, so you can hit a serious macro & tech (like lurker + upgrades) path whilst doing a lot of damage with a small harrassment group.
Picking off turrets non stop, marines on edge of marine balls, scvs, & if you are JD godliness you can just outright win the game.

In SC2; they don't stack as efficiently still and the turrets do so much damage to small muta numbers, this still doesn't open up any new tier to TvZ. Marines clump much tighter too so whenever you attack 1 marine you have nearly half the ball raining fire at you also. Later on, the clump is good, but thors should be present by then too.
DeathAngel[ro]
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania79 Posts
March 05 2012 09:46 GMT
#55
heh , was using this at the begining of sc2 because I had brood war reflexes to group mutas with ovie.. still, just clicking them to move back and forth again seems to stack them pretty good .. maybe I should try with ovie again :D
a very funny zerg player
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
March 05 2012 10:02 GMT
#56
Mother of god.

User was temp banned for this post.
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
March 05 2012 10:04 GMT
#57
hey guess what guys........you can have more than 11 mutas this time! yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
March 05 2012 10:14 GMT
#58
Has anyone given this a shot with a burrowed Zergling? I have read that that worked in BW as well, and has the advantage that the Zergling won't ever actually move toward your Muta flock and have to be moved far away again.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 11:30:17
March 05 2012 11:28 GMT
#59
I thought this only worked in BW, but I guess it sorta carried over to SC2.

A lot of BW AOE spells were actually kinda bullshit for what its worth but progamers still kept stacking mutas together (for example BW storms actually pretty much kill off tanks in a matter of seconds and decimate worker lines and there's no avoiding irradiate, you had to split the irradiated muta away from the flock). So I wonder if it's going to be the same here in SC2. Though fungal kinda screws everything up.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
March 05 2012 11:56 GMT
#60
uh you can also click right infront of mutalisks and thety will group up in a tight ball temporarily just for the moment to perhaps target a turret or something.
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
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