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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
Rusty, I actually remember that game! I must not have been paying attention to see the placements of the bunkers and why they were so hard to prevent. I just remember "hrm that's a lot of bunkers, wow it looks like Leenock is screwed" followed by "wow those are some fast banelings... WOW he actually saved the hatchery and broke out!" | ||
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Crytch
Germany135 Posts
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
should delay long enough to get spinecrawler and lings etc. remember he's committed 300 minerals to the bunkers and 3 scv's, plus probably second rax before expansion... that's equal to having at least 7-8 drones off mining for 90 seconds. | ||
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Crytch
Germany135 Posts
On March 04 2012 21:52 shizna wrote: cant you delay the bunker by blocking with a couple of drones while your other drones chase the marine? should delay long enough to get spinecrawler and lings etc. remember he's committed 300 minerals to the bunkers and 3 scv's, plus probably second rax before expansion... that's equal to having at least 7-8 drones off mining for 90 seconds. i always played this with 2 proxy racks. if i saw zerg is blocking me with drones i just expand immediately. the time the bunkers are all staarted to build the zerg lost his natural, and in most cases the game, just because 1 marine behind the 3 bunkers is enough to defeat the zerg, and when the first bunker is rdy the zerg can leave. imo the only way to defeat this strategy is a patroling drone at the place where the bunkers are going up, and pulled drones to chase scv and first marines | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
 GL! | ||
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Bommes
Germany1226 Posts
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Taefox
1533 Posts
remember he's committed 300 minerals to the bunkers and 3 scv's Terran can savage the bunkers if the rush fail and fall back while having the CC. Not really committed 300 minerals but 75 minerals | ||
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achristes
Norway653 Posts
On March 04 2012 23:23 foxj wrote: 2rax pressure open and u guys Z called it cheese QQ ? Terran can savage the bunkers if the rush fail and fall back while having the CC. Not really committed 300 minerals but 75 minerals 75 per bunker, so 75*3=225. And if terran does this his CC will be delayed by a considerable amount of time. | ||
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
Very very old XD | ||
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Kmatt
United States1019 Posts
He then spent the next 20 minutes building Thors. It's kind of funny to think that he does stuff like that so much, he had no idea how to actually play out the game. | ||
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Tactical
United States77 Posts
On March 04 2012 23:44 achristes wrote: 75 per bunker, so 75*3=225. And if terran does this his CC will be delayed by a considerable amount of time. Your math is a bit off. A bunker costs 100 to start but you get 75 back for cancel or salvage. So the real cost is only 25 per bunker, totaling the 75 mineral commitment. Unless the Zerg is well prepare for this build, the terran can often get away with it just by forcing units, and psychologically attacking the mental state of the Zerg with what appears to be a major cheesy commitment. When in reality, the Terran is not that far behind at all, considering its just a two rax pressure expand build. Forcing units and causing the Zerg to panic and possibly forget things such as upgrades or overlords is worth the 75 minerals. | ||
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Harbinger631
United States376 Posts
On March 05 2012 00:02 Tactical wrote: Your math is a bit off. A bunker costs 100 to start but you get 75 back for cancel or salvage. So the real cost is only 25 per bunker, totaling the 75 mineral commitment. Unless the Zerg is well prepare for this build, the terran can often get away with it just by forcing units, and psychologically attacking the mental state of the Zerg with what appears to be a major cheesy commitment. When in reality, the Terran is not that far behind at all, considering its just a two rax pressure expand build. Forcing units and causing the Zerg to panic and possibly forget things such as upgrades or overlords is worth the 75 minerals. The point is that 300 minerals will delay the Terran's CC by a good bit, not the mention the lost mining time by sending out 3 SCVs. If Zerg defends well and keeps his head, he will not be behind. Destiny recently ran into this on NA ladder, lost his hatch, but still managed to crush his oppoenent because he didn't lose drones and defended w/ 3 spines. | ||
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Arghnews
United Kingdom169 Posts
And if it gets down... god help you -_- | ||
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Taefox
1533 Posts
On March 05 2012 00:15 Harbinger631 wrote: The point is that 300 minerals will delay the Terran's CC by a good bit, not the mention the lost mining time by sending out 3 SCVs. If Zerg defends well and keeps his head, he will not be behind. Z have to pull more drones to counter against the 3 scvs bunker. And if the entrance get blocked, Terran will just retreat his force. I think its a normal open for T not cheese or allin stuff but it doest work on all maps | ||
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Goku___
Canada33 Posts
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Taefox
1533 Posts
On March 05 2012 01:55 Goku___ wrote: I have to ask this question, Was this 11,11 rax or 12,14 plz tell me http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251694¤tpage=165 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251694¤tpage=166 | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
On March 04 2012 22:11 Bommes wrote: I'm pretty sure this works on Tal'darim too actually. Only takes two, and is a fucking awesome dream. If my 12 scout and 13 scout (12/12 rax ya know) scout like 15 seconds behind eachother, one goes in and scouts pool not done, go back to nat, and i double bunker their choke and go about my business. Usually I cancel at like 35-50% health just for a delay on them transferring drones, and a queen/ling pull. | ||
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scarper65
1560 Posts
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Goldbullet
United States88 Posts
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RaiD.RaynoR
United States294 Posts
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