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On February 10 2012 16:40 Azzur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 13:44 MorroW wrote:
I found out about this over half year ago. Then I went to talk to team liquid admins if they think it's ok to use in tournaments. As it wasn't a macro, just a hot key change they were fine with it.
The reason I'm not using this is because it was very dependant on your hardware. Because I was spamming actions so fast it actually kept listening to those actions seconds after I stopped. So basically it was way too buggy on my computer.
so the buggy part was basically like this. i spammed out snipes like crazy, it worked for about 2 seconds and then all my ghosts went on small cooldown with the snipe, then it started selecting the ultralisks for example instead, and it just kept spam clicking the standard left click select command on whatever i hovered over for a few seconds. so i was giving orders
about 3-4 times quicker than my computer could actually handle in starcraft 2, so scrolling for 1 second gave commands that kept going for about 2-3 more seconds after i stopped scrolling :p
However in the replay on cytos computer (he had stronger computer than mine) after he fixed this too, he managed to reach up to about 3000~ apm in the replay spamming infested terrans xD More proof that this technique is 100% tournament legal. With all this weight of evidence, I don't know why people are even arguing otherwise. I've read alot of posts claiming that SC2 lacks micro tricks and then I see posts saying some new micro technique should be banned. Granted, these posts could be made by 2 different groups of ppl...
Micro tricks? lol? This is another way of making the game LESS micro heavy. Think boy, think...
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On February 11 2012 00:21 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 16:40 Azzur wrote:On February 10 2012 13:44 MorroW wrote:
I found out about this over half year ago. Then I went to talk to team liquid admins if they think it's ok to use in tournaments. As it wasn't a macro, just a hot key change they were fine with it.
The reason I'm not using this is because it was very dependant on your hardware. Because I was spamming actions so fast it actually kept listening to those actions seconds after I stopped. So basically it was way too buggy on my computer.
so the buggy part was basically like this. i spammed out snipes like crazy, it worked for about 2 seconds and then all my ghosts went on small cooldown with the snipe, then it started selecting the ultralisks for example instead, and it just kept spam clicking the standard left click select command on whatever i hovered over for a few seconds. so i was giving orders
about 3-4 times quicker than my computer could actually handle in starcraft 2, so scrolling for 1 second gave commands that kept going for about 2-3 more seconds after i stopped scrolling :p
However in the replay on cytos computer (he had stronger computer than mine) after he fixed this too, he managed to reach up to about 3000~ apm in the replay spamming infested terrans xD More proof that this technique is 100% tournament legal. With all this weight of evidence, I don't know why people are even arguing otherwise. I've read alot of posts claiming that SC2 lacks micro tricks and then I see posts saying some new micro technique should be banned. Granted, these posts could be made by 2 different groups of ppl... Micro tricks? lol? This is another way of making the game LESS micro heavy. Think boy, think...
Dont be so damn condescending, Discuss. Dont be a idiot
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So, any updates on if this is bannable or not?
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On February 11 2012 05:59 decaf wrote:
So, any updates on if this is bannable or not?
Not that i heard off. But the did change the snipe on the ghost in the new patch.
So don't think its a big issue anymore.
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Yup, Patch 1.4.3. makes snipe 25 to non-psionic, so now this is basically a moot point. They can truly 2-shot Infestors, but now Ultras go from 11 to 19 snipes. It was fun getting to know you ghost, maybe I'll see you in HoTS for some as-yet-unrevealed reason.
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Slight GSL RO16 Group D spoiler
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Anyone else notice that Nestea appeared to use this vs DRG? He seemed to cast his infested terran a lot faster. I think Artosis pointed it out as well.
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Thanks for getting ghosts nerfed.
Im also suprised infested terrans didnt get a nerf (cool down)
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I seem to be unable to set my scroll wheel (up or down) as my left mouse button). Ive been trying to change it in the ingame hotkey menu, but its not working. Does this mean my mouse doesnt consider scrolling up or down as a button or am I supposed to do the change outside of the game?
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On February 11 2012 06:47 wolverinehokie wrote:Slight GSL RO16 Group D spoiler + Show Spoiler +
Anyone else notice that Nestea appeared to use this vs DRG? He seemed to cast his infested terran a lot faster. I think Artosis pointed it out as well.
shift queue also spawns them instantly.
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Can anyone give me a good confirmation if this is illegal or not?
Will it be allowed to use on tournaments and ladder?
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Thanks to patch 1.4.3, next time i random terran i use snipe to kill overseers and then cloak and autoattack the fucking broodlords, 25 (+25 vs psionic) my ass? snipe is a TERRIBLE MECHANIC, scrap it for something cool FFS!!! x.X
i mean, can't even kill banelings with snipe now TT *whine whine*
I MEAN SERIOUSLY, if you make enough ghosts to use snipe in order to kill ultralisks and broodlords? you may as well just cloak them and autoattack, using snipe to clear away threats like overseers or ultralisks...
I mean, snipe was an iffy spell, even in this thread, but i think something like 30 (+20 vs light) would be more reasonable (considering it would allow snipe to still kill workers etc, since both broodlords/ultras are armored/massive)
At this point, using the mousewheel is REQUIRED, i mean, who's gonna click 21 times to kill an ultralisk??? LOL not me...
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On February 11 2012 11:34 INTOtheVOID wrote:
This is hacking IMO.
your opinion is wrong:/
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This is not hacking at all, and there's no way blizzard could ban you on this unless they wanted to just ban anyone who reached a certain CPM.
All X-Mouse does is rebind mouse keys, and it's quite commonly used, by many people, who have no intention to mess with the game.
edit: How do you pull this off exactly? Do you hold shift? I tried this in a game (I've had x-mouse for a long time now) and it'd just pop one IT before left clicking on the ground. I never use shift to spam IT's (due to issues you get with pathing and multiple commands stringed up) so...
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On February 06 2012 15:02 Dapper_Cad wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 14:53 Cryllic wrote:
i wonder if this is allowed in tournaments? Unlikely as you would need to install a program on their computers before you play, from what little experience I have of tournaments this doesn't tend to happen for a variety of pretty obvious reasons. Is it possible that there is a mouse that would let you do this?
There are mouses that stores keybindnings in a memory in the mouse so that it's the same wherever you plug it in, without needing to install something.
On a similar topic. It is possible to bind middle mouse button to attack move using X-mouse Button Control. Although that could be considered cheating since two actions are performed (Attack and left click).
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Yeah I don't think you'd ever get banned for doing this. But, it does seem pretty grey area.
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Just seen this from the 'This Week--' thread. Holy shit.
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On February 11 2012 07:06 StrikeNova wrote:
I seem to be unable to set my scroll wheel (up or down) as my left mouse button). Ive been trying to change it in the ingame hotkey menu, but its not working. Does this mean my mouse doesnt consider scrolling up or down as a button or am I supposed to do the change outside of the game?
You need to change it using the software that was posted in the OP it cant be changed using the in game hotkey menu.
On February 11 2012 13:44 Belial88 wrote:
This is not hacking at all, and there's no way blizzard could ban you on this unless they wanted to just ban anyone who reached a certain CPM.
All X-Mouse does is rebind mouse keys, and it's quite commonly used, by many people, who have no intention to mess with the game.
edit: How do you pull this off exactly? Do you hold shift? I tried this in a game (I've had x-mouse for a long time now) and it'd just pop one IT before left clicking on the ground. I never use shift to spam IT's (due to issues you get with pathing and multiple commands stringed up) so...
Once you have your mouse scroll both up and down set to left click simply select your infestors hold the T button while scrolling your mouse wheel up and down as fast as you can.
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i heard from a friend who works there
that
for example wow
selling gold is illegal u get banned for it
buying gold is borderline not allowed so u dont get banned for it
but i still dont buy gold
if u got banned for it
u can't complain
but probably wont get banned
just like buying gold in wow
so aslong as its not a problem blizz will not ban it yet
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EPT
