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jaminski
Profile Joined September 2010
England84 Posts
February 14 2012 19:03 GMT
#641
imo there is nothing wrong about this or bannable ¬_¬ its not like a 3rd party software because its just a binding its not like it can be patched either so itll probably stay but there will only be a small number of players who will actually use it
[ Macrophobia ] [ EU Protoss ] [ Mid Master ]
Wubbles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
February 14 2012 20:07 GMT
#642
On February 14 2012 01:43 dotDash wrote:
I quickly went through all the pages and there's a slight chance I missed it somewhere.. but is this possible to setup during a tournament where you don't sit by your own computer but have your own mouse/keyboard with you?

Peace
Dan


I'm almost positive it is depending on your mouse. For example I use a logitech g9 and I can program different "profiles" each with its own DPI and button settings (including remapping) and it's saved right onto the g9's on board memory.
FeiLing
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany428 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 21:11:01
February 15 2012 21:08 GMT
#643
Oh yeah so clever to say that there isn't anything against it in the rules at the moment.That's the nature of a new exploit - no one knew of it before...
Why don't you send an email to blizz support to clarify if it's allowed? They'll send you a clear no, because they don't really care and disallow anything potential abusable. And you won't get a statement out of em either if they ban for it.

I am 100% sure however that Blizzard put something in the Terms of Use or wherever that allows them to ban you for basically no reason at all if they'd like to. And surely there is a passage about common sense too, maybe even related to the abuse of game mechanics etc.
Sure go ahead and keep cheating. If enough people do it they might not even ban you but instead fix it (which would be way better as many people would still take the risk of getting banned even if they know bans were given out for this).
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 01:54:48
February 17 2012 01:52 GMT
#644
Stephano is using this, just saw game vs grubby, 30+ infested terrans at the same time, will try to dind this in vod of grubby stream later
TissTuss
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden33 Posts
February 18 2012 22:42 GMT
#645
Can anyone tell an idiot (me) how to do this? I dont even find the hotkeys for mousewheel up/down.
Magus.421
Profile Joined November 2011
France159 Posts
February 18 2012 23:24 GMT
#646
You need a program to do that. Check the OP post.
No whine, just play.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
February 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#647
On February 17 2012 10:52 wildstyle1337 wrote:
Stephano is using this, just saw game vs grubby, 30+ infested terrans at the same time, will try to dind this in vod of grubby stream later


You can still throw 30 infested terrans simultaneously by waypointing a move command before shift-clicking the infested terrans. so he could be doing that, or the scroll wheel.
Sotark
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada66 Posts
February 18 2012 23:40 GMT
#648
I set my Deathadders mouse click up and down to "click" in it's drivers settings.
it didn't work, any help?
DoctorFunk
Profile Joined September 2011
160 Posts
February 19 2012 01:02 GMT
#649
It's really funny that people are getting upset and saying it's cheating. First of all- its not. It's just rebinding controls. Second, it's not even significant considering the ghost nerf.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 15:42:52
February 20 2012 15:42 GMT
#650
On February 19 2012 10:02 DoctorFunk wrote:
It's really funny that people are getting upset and saying it's cheating. First of all- its not. It's just rebinding controls. Second, it's not even significant considering the ghost nerf.

Get your facts right ... IT IS A MAKRO. Your mouse-software records a macro for you "mouse down; delay 0.00xxxx seconds, mouse up" so STOP saying its a mere rebind.
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Wink and the Gun
Profile Joined November 2010
21 Posts
February 20 2012 15:52 GMT
#651
On February 19 2012 08:40 Sotark wrote:
I set my Deathadders mouse click up and down to "click" in it's drivers settings.
it didn't work, any help?


It worked fine on my Deathadder. Make sure you are changing the scrolling up and down and not just pressing the scroll wheel down - that threw me at first.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
February 20 2012 15:58 GMT
#652
On February 21 2012 00:42 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 10:02 DoctorFunk wrote:
It's really funny that people are getting upset and saying it's cheating. First of all- its not. It's just rebinding controls. Second, it's not even significant considering the ghost nerf.

Get your facts right ... IT IS A MAKRO. Your mouse-software records a macro for you "mouse down; delay 0.00xxxx seconds, mouse up" so STOP saying its a mere rebind.

Heh, maybe it is you instead who should get your facts straight... it's a 1-to-1 binding and NOT a macro. The mouse-software registers each scroll of the mousewheel as a left-click. Since you are able to scroll faster than you can left-click, the rebinding of the key allows very fast clicks.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
February 20 2012 16:02 GMT
#653
On February 16 2012 06:08 FeiLing wrote:
Oh yeah so clever to say that there isn't anything against it in the rules at the moment.That's the nature of a new exploit - no one knew of it before...
Why don't you send an email to blizz support to clarify if it's allowed? They'll send you a clear no, because they don't really care and disallow anything potential abusable. And you won't get a statement out of em either if they ban for it.

I am 100% sure however that Blizzard put something in the Terms of Use or wherever that allows them to ban you for basically no reason at all if they'd like to. And surely there is a passage about common sense too, maybe even related to the abuse of game mechanics etc.
Sure go ahead and keep cheating. If enough people do it they might not even ban you but instead fix it (which would be way better as many people would still take the risk of getting banned even if they know bans were given out for this).

Interesting that despite all the evidence (Morrow posting about it, Artosis mentioning it on the GSL stream) you continue to insist that this is cheating?

The only thing you have right in your post is that the ToS is worded in such a way that they can ban you for almost anything. But that's beside the point - as long as big tournaments allow this, how can you say it's cheating?
RoyAlex
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway420 Posts
February 20 2012 16:16 GMT
#654
On February 21 2012 01:02 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 06:08 FeiLing wrote:
Oh yeah so clever to say that there isn't anything against it in the rules at the moment.That's the nature of a new exploit - no one knew of it before...
Why don't you send an email to blizz support to clarify if it's allowed? They'll send you a clear no, because they don't really care and disallow anything potential abusable. And you won't get a statement out of em either if they ban for it.

I am 100% sure however that Blizzard put something in the Terms of Use or wherever that allows them to ban you for basically no reason at all if they'd like to. And surely there is a passage about common sense too, maybe even related to the abuse of game mechanics etc.
Sure go ahead and keep cheating. If enough people do it they might not even ban you but instead fix it (which would be way better as many people would still take the risk of getting banned even if they know bans were given out for this).

Interesting that despite all the evidence (Morrow posting about it, Artosis mentioning it on the GSL stream) you continue to insist that this is cheating?

The only thing you have right in your post is that the ToS is worded in such a way that they can ban you for almost anything. But that's beside the point - as long as big tournaments allow this, how can you say it's cheating?


I think I saw someone who sent an email to Blizzard and asked about it in this thread, or somewhere else on liquid, and they basically got "yes, np, go ahead, use it, it's fine." from Blizzard.
It's just binding keys & changing some keyboard settings, no different from changin mouse DPI.
vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
February 21 2012 05:47 GMT
#655
in beta infested terrans used to come out two at a time but cost 50 energy. I find the consequence of having to do so many actions takes away from everything else you have to do. If I can expend all my infestor energy and then begin to baneling drop it would make bane rain considerably more effective then it is now. I've always contemplated doing this but wasn't entirely sure what kind of driver support or legal issues would come up in tournaments.
Day[9] i've broken 6 mice, 5 keyboards, 3 pairs of headphones, and a mousepad, all from raging after starcraft losing streaks
Adonisto
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada191 Posts
February 21 2012 19:13 GMT
#656
I changed the setting on my DeathAdder driver then tried it in the Unit Tester and my computer literally crashed... I got a blue screen and my computer restarted on it's own. That's nice.
-ReMeDy-
Profile Joined June 2010
United States46 Posts
February 22 2012 01:32 GMT
#657
It doesn't look like my Razer Copperhead driver software offers scroll up/down functionality. Of course, wouldn't you know it, I can program every OTHER button, but not scroll up/down.
"Every minute outside SC is a minute someone else improves."
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
February 22 2012 02:06 GMT
#658
On February 22 2012 10:32 -ReMeDy- wrote:
It doesn't look like my Razer Copperhead driver software offers scroll up/down functionality. Of course, wouldn't you know it, I can program every OTHER button, but not scroll up/down.


If you have a programmable keyboard, or even just with the use of a script, you can do the same thing with your keyboard instead, with even faster results.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 02:40:23
February 22 2012 02:12 GMT
#659
Is there a difference between the bumped/stepped scroll wheels and the smooth ones?
I wouldn't have thought that the bumped/stepped wheels would respond much faster than just regular clicking.
Personally I'm using [image loading]
(which had great potential for a mouse concept but overall is rather disappointing)
Using the software it's only possible to rebind the "joysticks", so I set it so that when the left joystick is pressed forward, perform a click (it results in repeating if held down — kinda dicey-ish maybe).
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
InfDelta
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1 Post
February 22 2012 02:45 GMT
#660
people are talking about a third party program but i use a razer mouse and at lans you can use your mouse drivers so could that make it legal
Hey, Im English
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