EPT[G] AoWııııııııı's PvT Zealots Zealots Everywhere - Page 5
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Juddas
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On January 03 2012 21:23 caradoc wrote: 1) The tone is at times annoying, it sounds a bit arrogant to me, but other people might appreciate it. Not sure. 2) The spoilers make it very very difficult to navigate, and since like half of them are empty, the whole OP comes across as being half-baked. This relates to the next point... 3) There doesn't seem to be a consistent single coherent fleshed out strategy here-- more like you played a game that exemplified a tendency of getting more zealots in the midgame and then wrote a 'guide' about it without it actually being a refined and fully fleshed out strategy. Yes, zealots are good, yes, they are also cheap and very cost efficient if they can actually do damage, so a strategy that maximizes these strengths is a potentially very strong one, but this guide doesn't actually explain that. It essentially just says something like a) zealots are good. b) zealots are cheap. c) if banshee, get phoenix d) sometimes you need to transition out of zealots e) expand lots. The fact that there are no replays and the OP is just a skeleton disappoints me because I was expecting a [G], as the title promised. no man, you don't understand! He used an 18 month old Meme, that makes it okay, topical, and funny. | ||
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skorched
United States81 Posts
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Selendis
Australia509 Posts
I like it. I also like the general theorycraft of expanding behind zealots. Still, I'm not game to try it until I see some replays  | ||
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matrius
100 Posts
On January 04 2012 10:20 ohokurwrong wrote: you people on this forum rage so hard about such stupid things. this guide is ahead of its time. i myself have been doing similar stuff for ages. gas deprivation is basically the next big thing in matchups. gas deprivation in a matchup where only mineral units can be viable in mid game give you... macro games. you want macro games if you are good at sc2. | ||
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-Asmodeus-
Poland31 Posts
*** representing cb At first i thought you want to expand 4 times before 34 supply ^^ | ||
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Ravomat
Germany422 Posts
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AoWLuXus
Korea (South)109 Posts
On January 04 2012 22:23 Ravomat wrote: Please upload some replays. It's the easiest and fastest way to add content to a pretty empty guide. You do have replays, don't you? My apologies! I think I underestimated how many people would find the ideas too abstract -- but Im grinding games as I write this so I can upload replays ASAP! | ||
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AoWLuXus
Korea (South)109 Posts
On January 04 2012 09:28 Trusty wrote: Hi AoWIIIIIIIIIII I had something I added, to help from my 1gate FE --- with my Robo , later on I add 2 WP, and then use this to create my flanking zealots (the terran walks across map, then I move my WP's into position to warp in). E.G. on Metal I keep the WP between the watch towers, so I can easily create a flank from both 'lanes' I like the idea, but if you go robo before 2nd and 3th gateway, you're going to need to make an immortal, unless you scout you dont need one. | ||
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AoWLuXus
Korea (South)109 Posts
On January 04 2012 09:24 hugedong wrote: People here sure are spoiled with perfect guides. It's not complete by any means at the moment but all you need is the idea for people to start experimenting. Yes, this is what I thought. But people demand replays, so I'm grinding games! | ||
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AoWLuXus
Korea (South)109 Posts
On January 04 2012 05:20 BoondockVeritas wrote: "AoWııııııııı's pylon·Nexus·pylon·Nexus·Gateway·Gateway" ??????? That's greed at the level that only zerg can play at in my experience o.o If you upload ways to make that kind of crazieness work out I will ♥ you long time (still reading)It's perfectly safe against CC first, but gets tricky against 12 rax bunker pressure, but I think you can hold. I will definitely upload replays ASAP. | ||
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AoWLuXus
Korea (South)109 Posts
On January 04 2012 10:18 avilo wrote: How many zealots do you make before you know to stop zealots production? As a general rule, only warp in Zealots [contrary to spending money on Nexii and Gateways] if they serve a purpose for harassment or defense (either defending harass or timings). Hope this answers your question. | ||
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jlim
Spain943 Posts
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freetgy
1720 Posts
for such a zealot heavy style fast expanding and keeping the terran busy is crucial. 2 gas as the guide tells is really enough to support an almost pure zealot army. The Problem with this build is that it loses alot of effectiveness if your opponent knows how to deal with a high zealot count (good simcity that is) | ||
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AoWLuXus
Korea (South)109 Posts
wp, sir btw, anyone know a good place to upload replays? I got a couple for you, but sc2replayed is giving me errors and I cant figure out where to upload replays on SC-Replays.net. HALP PL0X | ||
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jlim
Spain943 Posts
On January 05 2012 05:25 AoWLuXus wrote: wp, sir btw, anyone know a good place to upload replays? I got a couple for you, but sc2replayed is giving me errors and I cant figure out where to upload replays on SC-Replays.net. HALP PL0X http://drop.sc/ | ||
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Trusty
New Zealand520 Posts
On January 05 2012 02:45 AoWLuXus wrote: I like the idea, but if you go robo before 2nd and 3th gateway, you're going to need to make an immortal, unless you scout you dont need one. Hmm I follow the MC style of 1-gate FE, which revolves around fast obs. No need to make an immortal if you play it right. (poke @ 4:00 to decide if you add the robo before gates 2 and 3. or after) | ||
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AoWLuXus
Korea (South)109 Posts
the guy I'm playing is only high master and I knew I had won very early on so was hard to concentrate, but you get the idae. | ||
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Picklebread
808 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200525 ? | ||
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matrius
100 Posts
You play better than I do when you don't concentrate and I'm glued to the monitor, I must say. Um, there was one point where I thought some stalkers could have really helped - when he attacked your 5th base. You pulled in a round of zealots (like 10). If you had made stalkers, you could have increased your dps (as your zealots had a complete surround) and you could have picked off the medivacs too. I wonder why not? You make it look easy, I would like to see another, and an example of when this didn't work out so well. So far the results have been very lopsided. Or, are you thinking you want to keep counters to yourself for now? Thank you again! | ||
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