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Trusty
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand520 Posts
January 03 2012 21:06 GMT
#61
On January 04 2012 06:04 IMnoPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:56 Xadar wrote:
If you are the AoWLuXus i beat on ladder a few times, i am sorry to tell you that you won't be a future GSL champion.

He is not AoWLuxus. Luxus plays Zerg and is probably a team mate of him. Luxus is also not in GM while IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII even holds a a spot in Korean GM. I have to admit that it sounds very arrogant to call himself "future GSL champion" everywhere while being completely unknown and having achieved nothing in the competitive scene so far.


I think it was light-hearted humor?
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 21:07:27
January 03 2012 21:06 GMT
#62
i got to the 'future GSL champion part' and stopped reading. i appreciate humor in a guide, but this is just overkill.
Bogus ST_Life IMMVP
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
January 03 2012 21:10 GMT
#63
Come on guys, a little confidence never hurt anyone. Remember when HuK said he wanted to be the next Boxer and people's heads exploded? Well HuK turned out to be really amazing. Clearly, lofty goals are a good motivator for some players and it's not hurting anyone for said players to have those goals.

Stop taking things so seriously
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
January 03 2012 21:13 GMT
#64
On January 04 2012 06:10 theqat wrote:
Come on guys, a little confidence never hurt anyone. Remember when HuK said he wanted to be the next Boxer and people's heads exploded? Well HuK turned out to be really amazing. Clearly, lofty goals are a good motivator for some players and it's not hurting anyone for said players to have those goals.

Stop taking things so seriously

yeah but a bunch of my master level friends have beat him in custom/ladder before so i don't see why he should claim to be the next GSL champion if he's not even the best European player. HuK was #1 on NA server for ages.
Bogus ST_Life IMMVP
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
January 03 2012 21:27 GMT
#65
On January 04 2012 06:13 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 06:10 theqat wrote:
Come on guys, a little confidence never hurt anyone. Remember when HuK said he wanted to be the next Boxer and people's heads exploded? Well HuK turned out to be really amazing. Clearly, lofty goals are a good motivator for some players and it's not hurting anyone for said players to have those goals.

Stop taking things so seriously

yeah but a bunch of my master level friends have beat him in custom/ladder before so i don't see why he should claim to be the next GSL champion if he's not even the best European player. HuK was #1 on NA server for ages.


He said "future," not "next." It's just a goal. If he wants to have that level of commitment and confidence, it doesn't affect you.
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 21:30:36
January 03 2012 21:30 GMT
#66
This is pretty interesting, but don't think you should post an incomplete guide. No replays is a bummer and the vod game wasn't very good in my opinion. That terran just let his army get split up too many times. And I found the copyright thing kinda obnoxious, and as mentioned, you don't need spoilers for everything. Other than that, color me intrigued. Looking forward to the replays.
bananafone
Profile Joined October 2011
68 Posts
January 03 2012 21:45 GMT
#67
Will you people lighten up. Calling him arrogant or cocky for labeling himself future GSL champion is the equivalent of calling a 4year old arrogant when he says he wants to grow up and be a firefighter. A bit on the cute side? You be the judge. Arrogant? definitely not.

On topic however: From the VoD it looks very similar to WhiteRa's early game style except he goes into templar instead of expanding as aggressively. He's weakness seems to be well done stim timings into mass drops timed around the completion of charge. Any experience with that?
AoWLuXus
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)109 Posts
January 03 2012 22:13 GMT
#68
On January 04 2012 06:45 bananafone wrote:
Will you people lighten up. Calling him arrogant or cocky for labeling himself future GSL champion is the equivalent of calling a 4year old arrogant when he says he wants to grow up and be a firefighter. A bit on the cute side? You be the judge. Arrogant? definitely not.

On topic however: From the VoD it looks very similar to WhiteRa's early game style except he goes into templar instead of expanding as aggressively. He's weakness seems to be well done stim timings into mass drops timed around the completion of charge. Any experience with that?


Stim timings can be scary pre-charge, but in my experience the trick is to get a pylon built behind where you expect Terran to attack from, so that you can warp in Zealot to flank from behind.

@ Everyone, asking for replays: I've been doing this style for a while, but I wasnt aware that I was going to share it in this format on TL which means I didnt save up replays, so I'm grinding games atm in order to show you guys some scenarios. I'm really sorry if the guide feels uncomplete without the replays, but I thought I'd share the key concepts with you and add replays as I get them.
AoWLuXus
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)109 Posts
January 03 2012 22:22 GMT
#69
On January 04 2012 06:13 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 06:10 theqat wrote:
Come on guys, a little confidence never hurt anyone. Remember when HuK said he wanted to be the next Boxer and people's heads exploded? Well HuK turned out to be really amazing. Clearly, lofty goals are a good motivator for some players and it's not hurting anyone for said players to have those goals.

Stop taking things so seriously

yeah but a bunch of my master level friends have beat him in custom/ladder before so i don't see why he should claim to be the next GSL champion if he's not even the best European player. HuK was #1 on NA server for ages.


Excuse me for not taking every game I play 100 percent seriously! + Show Spoiler +
pokerface.jpg
matrius
Profile Joined February 2011
100 Posts
January 03 2012 22:23 GMT
#70
OK, please make sure to save both winners and losers, and give us some idea of % win...

Thanks!
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 22:47:45
January 03 2012 22:42 GMT
#71
On January 04 2012 06:45 bananafone wrote:
Will you people lighten up. Calling him arrogant or cocky for labeling himself future GSL champion is the equivalent of calling a 4year old arrogant when he says he wants to grow up and be a firefighter. A bit on the cute side? You be the judge. Arrogant? definitely not.


Basically this. Come on, guys. Someone making bombastic claims on the internet? How dare he!

Same goes for the copyright thing. I thought it was amusing. That said, if OP is half as good at Starcraft as he is at typing out useless spoiler tags, he'll be GSL champion in no time.

The philosophy is interesting, but it needs more information than a vague starting BO and a half dozen one liners that are far too much work to get to - not to mention a million "coming soon" tags that are even more work to get to - before I would feel at all comfortable trying it out. I can't learn a build from the scant info in the OP, especially a curve-ball style like this.

hugedong
Profile Joined June 2010
United States510 Posts
January 04 2012 00:24 GMT
#72
People here sure are spoiled with perfect guides. It's not complete by any means at the moment but all you need is the idea for people to start experimenting.
Trusty
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand520 Posts
January 04 2012 00:28 GMT
#73
Hi AoWIIIIIIIIIII

I had something I added, to help from my 1gate FE --- with my Robo , later on I add 2 WP, and then use this to create my flanking zealots (the terran walks across map, then I move my WP's into position to warp in).

E.G. on Metal I keep the WP between the watch towers, so I can easily create a flank from both 'lanes'
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 00:37:23
January 04 2012 00:31 GMT
#74
On January 04 2012 06:04 IMnoPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:56 Xadar wrote:
If you are the AoWLuXus i beat on ladder a few times, i am sorry to tell you that you won't be a future GSL champion.

He is not AoWLuxus. Luxus plays Zerg and is probably a team mate of him. Luxus is also not in GM while IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII even holds a a spot in Korean GM. I have to admit that it sounds very arrogant to call himself "future GSL champion" everywhere while being completely unknown and having achieved nothing in the competitive scene so far.

> Luxus is also not in GM while IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII even holds a a spot in Korean GM. care to show proof of this?
hmm seems legit. why isn't he or AoW known?
Trusty
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand520 Posts
January 04 2012 00:34 GMT
#75
On January 04 2012 09:31 Abrafred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 06:04 IMnoPro wrote:
On January 04 2012 05:56 Xadar wrote:
If you are the AoWLuXus i beat on ladder a few times, i am sorry to tell you that you won't be a future GSL champion.

He is not AoWLuxus. Luxus plays Zerg and is probably a team mate of him. Luxus is also not in GM while IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII even holds a a spot in Korean GM. I have to admit that it sounds very arrogant to call himself "future GSL champion" everywhere while being completely unknown and having achieved nothing in the competitive scene so far.

> Luxus is also not in GM while IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII even holds a a spot in Korean GM. care to show proof of this?


http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3032491/lIlIllIIlIlI
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3314732/llllllllllll
ZealotSensei
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark70 Posts
January 04 2012 00:52 GMT
#76
This style works amazingly well at lower levels, I have been crushing terran all day with this build. I am gold though :D
Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither!
SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
January 04 2012 01:02 GMT
#77
how does it fare against early terran pressure? marauders can kite zealots quite well if you only have sentries at the back
"terrible, terrible damage". terrible, terrible design.
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
January 04 2012 01:11 GMT
#78
Why is everyone so serious about gsl champion thing... jeez
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
January 04 2012 01:18 GMT
#79
On January 03 2012 18:40 AoWLuXus wrote:
I shall reserve this for answering questions in this thread.


How many zealots do you make before you know to stop zealots production?
Sup
ohokurwrong
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Brazil283 Posts
January 04 2012 01:20 GMT
#80
you people on this forum rage so hard about such stupid things. this guide is ahead of its time. i myself have been doing similar stuff for ages. gas deprivation is basically the next big thing in matchups.

gas deprivation in a matchup where only mineral units can be viable in mid game give you... macro games.

you want macro games if you are good at sc2.
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