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On January 01 2012 11:56 Iatrik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2011 01:54 Iatrik wrote:
Since i predicted more Immortal + Warpprism in PvP [Like WhiteRa uses them now] , I'll make one more prediction that'll blow your mind:
"Dual Warpprism + Colossi" (2 Warpprism & 2 Colossus) in the future.
It'll be very technical, since one mistake will punish you a lot.
But if you can pull it off, it'll be very powerful.
Or course, You'll need "Warpprism Speed" to make it do-able. I feel so powerful right now (~9 months later) :D Love the build. With proper scouting, i don't see any big flaws. But i wonder how you deal with 2-base sky terran?
A nice thing about this build is that you will invariably see the Sky Terran build incoming and are, if you're taking Alejandrisha's advice, moving towards Templar tech. Templar tech and Chronoboosted air upgrade phoenix rip Sky Terran to shreds if it isn't on at least 3 base. This is assuming you still have one or two Colossi and the Terran is basing his Sky Terran on out killing your Phoenix with his vikings with marine support... if you engage well there're no reason why you shouldn't rip the Terran right out of the sky! (This is what I've seen Axslav do vs Sky Terran)
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I still have never seen this "sky terran" people seem to be talking about so much on tl these days
If I ever run in to it I suppose I'll let ya'll know how to went.. oh btw happy new year east coast USA ^^
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WP speed (hotkey = G)
My favorite part of the guide :D
I tried doing this a few times and got a few kills with the collosus, nothing amazing though. As long as you get away there isn't much downside to it. Speed shuttle HTs are pretty good for mobile defense too, and they can't be EMPed!
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On January 01 2012 14:18 Alejandrisha wrote:
I still have never seen this "sky terran" people seem to be talking about so much on tl these days
If I ever run in to it I suppose I'll let ya'll know how to went.. oh btw happy new year east coast USA ^^
On January 01 2012 12:05 ShatterZer0 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 11:56 Iatrik wrote:On March 17 2011 01:54 Iatrik wrote:
Since i predicted more Immortal + Warpprism in PvP [Like WhiteRa uses them now] , I'll make one more prediction that'll blow your mind:
"Dual Warpprism + Colossi" (2 Warpprism & 2 Colossus) in the future.
It'll be very technical, since one mistake will punish you a lot.
But if you can pull it off, it'll be very powerful.
Or course, You'll need "Warpprism Speed" to make it do-able. I feel so powerful right now (~9 months later) :D Love the build. With proper scouting, i don't see any big flaws. But i wonder how you deal with 2-base sky terran? A nice thing about this build is that you will invariably see the Sky Terran build incoming and are, if you're taking Alejandrisha's advice, moving towards Templar tech. Templar tech and Chronoboosted air upgrade phoenix rip Sky Terran to shreds if it isn't on at least 3 base. This is assuming you still have one or two Colossi and the Terran is basing his Sky Terran on out killing your Phoenix with his vikings with marine support... if you engage well there're no reason why you shouldn't rip the Terran right out of the sky! (This is what I've seen Axslav do vs Sky Terran)
Can you name any games where Axslav played against air terran? I can't imagine using Marines in any way past using them to fill up some bunkers early game or for controlling towers or scouting to be nearly as efficient as simply building more CCs or Hellions, so that you can focus on your entire army being able to ignore the restrictions of ground movement.
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How do u react in gerneral , when terran scouts that u are going for nexus first, and puts down a bunker or bay to prevent it ?
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woo that build sounds really cool 
New years resolution - win a game with this build not losing a colossus or a wp xD
thanks for sharing
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I don't think I'm man enough to take this to ladder...
...but there's a teammate of mine who plays random who needs a taste of his own medicine in terms of risky unconventional bullshit.
This is truly THE test in the world for quantity of manliness.
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hmm i gotta try this, also i could only imagine what the terran was thinking in the first pic. OH SHI...
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I am a low plat protoss (low because my bonus pool is in the 100s i think).. but i am known amongst my friends to be the most eco cheesiest sc2 player.. i used to 15 nexus against terrans in s3 also lol..And this is just perfect for me..Now i dont have the skill to be efficient but I always think that at my level even the terran doesnt have the skill to macro up correctly and defeat it..so I am gonna try this
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On January 01 2012 18:40 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 14:18 Alejandrisha wrote:
I still have never seen this "sky terran" people seem to be talking about so much on tl these days
If I ever run in to it I suppose I'll let ya'll know how to went.. oh btw happy new year east coast USA ^^ Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 12:05 ShatterZer0 wrote:On January 01 2012 11:56 Iatrik wrote:On March 17 2011 01:54 Iatrik wrote:
Since i predicted more Immortal + Warpprism in PvP [Like WhiteRa uses them now] , I'll make one more prediction that'll blow your mind:
"Dual Warpprism + Colossi" (2 Warpprism & 2 Colossus) in the future.
It'll be very technical, since one mistake will punish you a lot.
But if you can pull it off, it'll be very powerful.
Or course, You'll need "Warpprism Speed" to make it do-able. I feel so powerful right now (~9 months later) :D Love the build. With proper scouting, i don't see any big flaws. But i wonder how you deal with 2-base sky terran? A nice thing about this build is that you will invariably see the Sky Terran build incoming and are, if you're taking Alejandrisha's advice, moving towards Templar tech. Templar tech and Chronoboosted air upgrade phoenix rip Sky Terran to shreds if it isn't on at least 3 base. This is assuming you still have one or two Colossi and the Terran is basing his Sky Terran on out killing your Phoenix with his vikings with marine support... if you engage well there're no reason why you shouldn't rip the Terran right out of the sky! (This is what I've seen Axslav do vs Sky Terran) Can you name any games where Axslav played against air terran? I can't imagine using Marines in any way past using them to fill up some bunkers early game or for controlling towers or scouting to be nearly as efficient as simply building more CCs or Hellions, so that you can focus on your entire army being able to ignore the restrictions of ground movement.
On his stream. Generally 2 base sky Terran is a bad choice after 1 rax gasless expo... telegraphing fast tech ports after gasless expo where a Protoss has speedprism... so most of that was just build order win anyways. The way Axslav put it was something like "If he makes marines he's an idiot, but if he doesn't make marines he's dead." I don't pretend to be on his level so I'm guessing he's got some angry transition somewhere.
Axslav REALLY loves his +1 chrono phoenix control.
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On January 01 2012 20:42 Yuffie wrote:
How do u react in gerneral , when terran scouts that u are going for nexus first, and puts down a bunker or bay to prevent it ?
in general, you want to get 2 gates before robo and cb units out as fast as possible. you should see the bunker(s) going up on your nat scout on your 17 pylon or your 18 gas and get the gates up as fast as possible and use 1-2 probes for each scv (make sure you shift right click them a bunch of times or they WILL stop attacking it when the scv goes inside the bunker because terran is bullshit) and a few to go after marines as your zealots won't be able to touch them if they're micro'd correctly. i have a few replays of this let me look!
edit: here are a few games where I play safer out of 15 nex in that kind of situation
http://drop.sc/82410
http://drop.sc/82409
http://drop.sc/82411
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On January 01 2012 22:32 Ashes wrote:I am a low plat protoss (low because my bonus pool is in the 100s i think).. but i am known amongst my friends to be the most eco cheesiest sc2 player.. i used to 15 nexus against terrans in s3 also lol..And this is just perfect for me..Now i dont have the skill to be efficient but I always think that at my level even the terran doesnt have the skill to macro up correctly and defeat it..so I am gonna try this
good attitude! this build will help you work on your camera hotkeys so make sure you're using them! set one to wear you're warping in units during harass (usually in front of your nat) and perhaps one in your main so you can add on infrastructure when necessary. gl!
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another marvelous guide, making me wish I played protoss :DDDDD
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Nice guide and very unique/unorthodox, but what if the enemy has a sensor tower to prevent WP harass?
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Nexus first sucks. Colossus drops rock. But nexus first is something like 6pool, it wont work against anyone remotely competent. 4rax marine with a bunker kills it all the time. No exceptions.
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On January 02 2012 16:50 Alejandrisha wrote:
dont drop there
No I mean if T has sensor then the WP harass is gone right?
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On January 02 2012 20:47 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote:No I mean if T has sensor then the WP harass is gone right?
you can start faking w/another prism pretty easily
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