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Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 09 2011 18:54 GMT
#321
i added some content that might help to defend in some cases. it will at least buy you time (for reinforcements or just for better times ^_^)
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
Deatheus89
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 19:01:50
November 09 2011 18:56 GMT
#322
lol compare the difficulty level of executing a 6 pool and winning with it against pros, and a terran 3rax1depo or toss 4 gate. the latter 2 are a joke and so much easier to pull off. esp the 3rax all in you just 1a 20 marines at 4.30

zerg cheese actually requires skill
ZOMGitsTHEEND
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada202 Posts
November 09 2011 19:00 GMT
#323
you should teach july how to do this.
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
November 09 2011 19:07 GMT
#324
On November 10 2011 01:17 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 01:03 TheBamf wrote:
Every time I want to explain the crappy side of this game I am just gonna link this thread.

Things need to be done, one should not be able to get into GM by "refining" the easiest executed build in the game.

It is not the easiest executed at all.
July and idra 6 pool almost always fails is the perfect example to this.

The easy part is getting the pool done, the hard part is to win with it, and it isn't easy at all. You should go and try it for 20 games and you would be surprised how hard it is to win with it (assuming you are at higher league of cause)


Everything is "hard" when you take it as a stand alone tactic. But when compared to the EXTENSIVE set of options, skills and factors that go into a longer game it does not even compare.
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HOTcarl
Profile Joined August 2010
United States102 Posts
November 09 2011 19:08 GMT
#325
LOL since when does a baneling bust or early roaches require skill? Im sorry but this thread is dumb and the only thing its going to do is get a nerf from blizzard which will effect people who are actually good at the game
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
November 09 2011 19:13 GMT
#326
Someone needs to link Artosis this so he can finally get into GM league
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 19:21:27
November 09 2011 19:17 GMT
#327
This is just one of those noobie things that is way easier to execute than it is to hold off consistently, and almost no one gets practice against it.
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lol compare the difficulty level of executing a 6 pool and winning with it against pros, and a terran 3rax1depo or toss 4 gate. the latter 2 are a joke and so much easier to pull off. esp the 3rax all in you just 1a 20 marines at 4.30

Last edit: 2011-11-10 04:01:50
zerg cheese actually requires skill


no lol... this is just as easy
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
November 09 2011 19:30 GMT
#328
On November 10 2011 04:13 Vorenius wrote:
Someone needs to link Artosis this so he can finally get into GM league


LOL :D

On topic, Habit, you're a cool guy and you should continue doing what you are. I was laughing so much at most of the chat, especially the BeastyQQ replay )
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
November 09 2011 19:37 GMT
#329
Why isn't there a mod warning people who talk about the BM. I thought this was the strat section, not the blog section. Get off him for his BM, I'm pretty sure he's aware people won't take to it. The content of what he's said is what should be discussed, and while I think the builds are pretty bad, I have at least learned a thing or two.

I'm still curious Bad_habit, what a hatch firster should do to deal with a morphing spine, and if they should get a morphing spine themselves (or if only in certain situations, what situations).

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Satiinifi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland192 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 19:55:16
November 09 2011 19:54 GMT
#330
And why the heck does he write "Satiini: (after long friendship in wc3 not my friend anymore thanks to 6pool )", as far as I know he was only some random manager in one of the teams I played in, very delusional guy. :D
Narxes
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium11 Posts
November 09 2011 19:55 GMT
#331
thanks for sharing this bad_habit.
really enjoyed some of those replays :D

imo if people do not like this strategy they should either:
-be angry at blizzard for making a game where this strategy is so strong
-be angry at themselves for assuming you would not try to 6pool/drone rush
-not be angry at the sixpooler because you cannot expect opponents to play the game how you want it

a lot of people give excuses like: you will never be able to play and win a real macro game.
while this may be true, why should they care about it? There is totally no need to be concerned for your opponent.
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Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 20:16:39
November 09 2011 19:57 GMT
#332
nvm just shouldnt care for ignorant ppl
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
300ml
Profile Joined January 2011
United States32 Posts
November 09 2011 20:14 GMT
#333
you should go to MLG and rape open bracket before people catch on.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 09 2011 20:34 GMT
#334
Thank you for turning the original post from an embarrassing bragfest ("Hey look I made it into GM 6 pooling and I bm when I lose!") into a largely useful post about how to 6 pool and how to defend it. Especially the micro tricks are pretty impressive. I wonder if the drone-stacking trick will also kill a 2 gate proxy.
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
November 09 2011 20:47 GMT
#335
seriously? you spend all your time 6 pooling? id rather be in a shitty low league and at least try to macro and lose more often than i win than play the same shitty build and hope to get lucky. to be honest you are just taking up a spot in gm league that should belong to someone else.

nothing really impressive. all you have showed is that you have spent countless hours perfecting a strat that probably only gets you wins because the PROS you play against dont expect it. nothing more. on top of that youve got a smug attitude towards players that actually deserve respect. stop it dude. you arent accomplishing much here. no one will ever respect you for how well you can 6 pool. making brag threads to show how you beat pros with a shitty build is a lame way to get attention.

good luck in a best of 5
6 poll is a good skill toi have
eatmybunnies
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
November 09 2011 20:50 GMT
#336
is this not considered op..... 1 build order that can beat everyrace... that can get a noob in gm..

User was warned for this post
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
November 09 2011 20:57 GMT
#337
Well despite all the bm or no bm going on I do find it an interesting post.
It's good to see some games from someone who perfected 6 pooling as it can definately be hard to stop sometimes, especially if the 6 pooler knows all the good tricks. Worker micro can be quite difficult in this game and many people just lose.

You could try bragging a bit less though. Cool for you you made it to GM with this but many of the chats just show you starting off with bm as well.

Making a good guide on how to stop the most efficient 6 pools would be good by the way. Despite how many people may hate this strat 6 pool is essential for keeping players honest. It's a big part of the reason in ZvP I 9 scout at all.
BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
November 09 2011 21:33 GMT
#338
This completely goes against everything I believe in SC2-wise, yet its a brilliant job you've done refining this strat. Keep up the good work and may the devil take you, long and hard!
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RhapsodyZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Turkey12 Posts
November 09 2011 21:33 GMT
#339
You strategy is cool and I tried it and it worked almost every time! Thank you! The only bad thing is against terran. If there is a base with no entrance ( closed by rocks) they just move their base there and once they get bunker, it's gg. Also against FFE protoss, while killing the forge, make sure he is not closing the ramp. just send a pair of zerglings to deny him. Except these, your strategies are working good ^^
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MerciLess
Profile Joined September 2010
213 Posts
November 09 2011 21:42 GMT
#340
I'm not mad at you for exposing a flaw in SC2. The designers of this game really dropped the ball when it comes to abusiveness. I'm mad at Blizzard for making a game that allows 6/7 poolers to win a gainst people like white ra more than the cheesers themselves. That being said, I find it a sad experience and a waste of 60 dollars to be you.
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